Controversial General Political Discussion

[Ravagerblade]

Because legality is not something that is accessible for everyone mate.



Just like there are a lot of girls raped by country people being in the US or in Europe.



This is not an argument mate.



Hell.. those people do not understand what they are advocating for. Its scary.

Wow, You would blow off a 12 year old being killed and sexually assaulted because it goes against your narrative. Spineless coward.
Laken Riley was killed as well.
If anybody doesn't have an argument, It's you.


"Because legality is not something that is accessible for everyone mate."

That's the point... You dimwitted soul. Would you give access to your home to any and everybody?

 

[Logiko]

Wow, You would blow off a 12 year old being killed and sexually assaulted because it goes against your narrative. Spineless coward.

Noone is invizibilizing anything Gandhi, what I'm explaining to your is that insecurity is not related to immigration. Its related to poverty, marginalization and bad treatments.

In short, the vision of guys like you is what creates the seed for insecurities to arise.

Plus, sexual violences are - again - really not something that is a attribute of immigration but the society in general.

I know you have a hard time understanding basic fact, but make an effort please :)

That's the point... You dimwitted soul. Would you give access to your home to any and everybody?

The country is NOT "your home". Its a large place of land where your home is located. There are a LOT of places to welcome people without even thinking about opening your home.

So relax mate, and stop watching TV and internet far right gurus. They are brainwashing you.

 

[Logiko]

„So relax mate, and stop watching TV and internet far right gurus. They are brainwashing you.

So relax mate, and stop watching TV and internet far left gurus. They brainwashed you.

Nevermind you never had a brain to wash. Their manipulation was directly injected into your vain, spineless and evil soul

comment directed to the degenerate above me

No Tv, do not like Internet Gurus and I'm mostly listening to scientifics and militants.

But hey ! Maybe you are right, maybe you have better way to inform yourself ?

 

[Daniel]

Those two migrants that were directly involved in Jocelyn Nungaray's sexual assault and murder should be made an example out of.

In Texas, an action which involves the murder of an individual under 10 years of age, or older than 10 years of age but younger than 15 years of age would have the perpetrator receive the death penalty (under Texas Capital Offenses).

Yea...

 

[Mathias]

WOW WTF IS THAT ???

I didn't know this existed, I just took a quick look. This literally looks like a fascist project !!

How did you not know ? lol

It's basically the modern american Mein Kampf

 

[Okamakama]

The country is NOT "your home". Its a large place of land where your home is located. There are a LOT of places to welcome people without even thinking about opening your home.

So relax mate, and stop watching TV and internet far right gurus. They are brainwashing you.

This is belief system born of the notion that all these things are separate. The land is not too separate from the culture, for the culture has developed on that land, and that culture creates a sense of community and shared values, which is necessary for a home.

Sure the land itself isn't 'your home' so to speak, but it's more holistic, Logiko.

I don't know why I am trying to explain things to you, who believes in the amalgamated singular mass of humanity, but people feel like their homes are being destroyed because their own national cultures are being diluted. They believe that those who would threaten their way of life shouldn't be on their shores.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Because legality is not something that is accessible for everyone mate.

Well said.

Plus, sexual violences are - again - really not something that is a attribute of immigration but the society in general.

Yes.

This is belief system born of the notion that all these things are separate. The land is not too separate from the culture, for the culture has developed on that land, and that culture creates a sense of community and shared values, which is necessary for a home.

....I frankly don't know how to respond to this. I could write a 200 word ZKK level essay but I'd rather let it be.

Those two migrants that were directly involved in Jocelyn Nungaray's sexual assault and murder should be made an example out of.

In Texas, an action which involves the murder of an individual under 10 years of age, or older than 10 years of age but younger than 15 years of age would have the perpetrator receive the death penalty (under Texas Capital Offenses).

Yea...

Deport rapists back to their countries or hang them if you will but most immigrants are NOT rapists. Stop fear mongering.

 

[Okamakama]

Deport rapists back to their countries or hang them if you will but most immigrants are NOT rapists. Stop fear mongering.

The fear a lot of people have regarding this is... when can you determine they're a rapist? After the damage has been inflicted? Or only when they're entering the nation and checking their past history?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The fear a lot of people have regarding this is... when can you determine they're a rapist? After the damage has been inflicted? Or only when they're entering the nation and checking their past history?

What kind of post is this?

How to determine who is a rapist: see if they have raped someone 🤡. Works with immigrants and non-immigrants.

 

[Okamakama]

What kind of post is this?

How to determine who is a rapist: see if they have raped someone 🤡. Works with immigrants and non-immigrants.

Wonderful.

🤡

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Wonderful.

🤡

You sound like you want to hire fortune tellers to determine which person is a rapist and who isn't and convict them based on the fortune teller's statement. Or did I misinterpret your statement?

 

[Okamakama]

You sound like you want to hire fortune tellers to determine which person is a rapist and who isn't and convict them based on the fortune teller's statement. Or did I misinterpret your statement?

Kind of misinterpreted, but I might have not explained properly at all. The "deport rapists back to their home country" is all well and good, but should we deport them only after they've committed the crime in their new country, or if there is any previous history on them that can be found that they committed such a crime (or others) in their home countries?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Kind of misinterpreted, but I might have not explained properly at all. The "deport rapists back to their home country" is all well and good, but should we deport them only after they've committed the crime in their new country, or if there is any previous history on them that can be found that they committed such a crime (or others) in their home countries?

Your statement seems to imply that there are more rapists among immigrants than among non-immigrants and that it's just a matter of time until an immigrant commits rape. Or did I misunderstand you again?

 

[Natalija]

I don't think it's a silly wet dream anymore, and it's not one independent organization:


I agree with the angle that Putin didn't want an unstable Trump
but after him and republicans trying (and succeeding for a long time) to block Ukraine aid, it's different now. And the whole way they talk about NATO. They might cut funding for Ukraine or force them a shitty cease fire. I wouldn't say it's the main point. Project 2025 is more than enough. Why shouldn't it be the supreme court? more appointments can even the scales with those corrupt judges.

I am saying this as someone who liked trump and was happy at 2016 (not anymore). This isn't about anyone's political opinion on the spectrum, it's about still having the option to vote on these political opinions and be free. I'm not even American but this can have horrible global consequences.

Well there's no way for it to get into legislation, is what I mean.

The Republicans make half the government no matter which president is in office though. If they want to block aid, they can even now. (Can't blame that either, I don't think first world countries need to be responsible for everything shitty that's happening, even though I think the EU and the US are having major profits from weapons rn.)

I don't know which corruption you mean, the verdicts I read - albeit not many, just the ones I was interested in - were constitution based

No, I don't think "freedom" will disappear in any form, or that anything will change in their governance. As for foreign affairs, I think it's best for us non-US citizens if Biden retires asap.

 

[Okamakama]

Your statement seems to imply that there are more rapists among immigrants than among non-immigrants and that it's just a matter of time until an immigrant commits rape. Or did I misunderstand you again?

You misunderstood. I don't think homegrown rapists should be deported but jailed. I think immigrant rapists should be deported. There is no assertion on who will rape more and that is just an attempt to paint someone else as a racist.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

or if there is any previous history on them that can be found that they committed such a crime (or others) in their home countries?

To answer this part, it's going to be difficult to find anything about their life depending on the documents they bring along or don't.

I don't think homegrown rapists should be deported but jailed.

Nice strawman, nobody here suggested deporting non-immigrant rapists(to which country even??).

There is no assertion on who will rape more and that is just an attempt to paint someone else as a racist.

Then mind explaining this post?->

Wonderful.

🤡

I don't think first world countries need to be responsible for everything shitty that's happening

Their status as first world countries is a direct result of them being responsible for creating most of the global problems that make all these ''shitty'' things happening today.

 

[Okamakama]

Then mind explaining this post?->

Because I thought you were just taking the piss in misinterpreting me.

 

[Natalija]

Their status as first world countries is a direct result of them being responsible for creating most of the global problems that make all these ''shitty'' things happening today.

I'm not going to blame other countries for Russia's actions.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The historical amnesia that western conservatives suffer from will neither put an end to global wars nor solve the global migration crisis.

 

[Natalija]

The historical amnesia that western conservatives suffer from will neither put an end to global wars nor solve the global migration crisis.

I'm not western nor conservative

How would going into history solve anything? History is Putin's whole excuse for war in the first place, which is an ass reason to attack someone's borders.

How far back do you wanna go? 10 years? 50? A 100? What do you think that will accomplish? Chitchat over history? Stopping a war? It doesn't allow an attack on someone's sovereignty and going against international law no matter how you want to establish history. Russia would do it cause they want to do it.

But I'm all ears for your history solution though