General & Others With last chapter, can we say Blackbeard is final villain ?

[Paperchampion23]

I feel like it needs to be stated again lol, Oda has made it clear that in order to do something about the WG, you essentially need to be Pirate King and find One Piece.

Whitebeard says it to Blackbeard, Roger says it to Oden and Rayleigh, hell, even Blackbeard still absolutely aims for the One Piece in his dialogue to Law. Shanks and Buggy want One Piece for their own reasons. Luffy says he needs to be PK to have a shot at his secret dream.
You can even infer that Akainu entire directive as Fleet Admiral is to prevent anyone from getting One Piece, as it was for Sengoku.


The writing is on the wall guys. Ideally any not Imu shouldnt really last before Luffy is Pirate King and One Piece is found, regardless of their intentions against the WG itself. They are the primeval controlling entity in the world. Everything about this series stems from their control. Their secret leader is still unrevealed and enigmatic in nature.

 

[Natalija]

I feel like it needs to be stated again lol, Oda has made it clear that in order to do something about the WG, you essentially need to be Pirate King and find One Piece.

And also probably be Nika, cause Roger already was Pirate king, and could do nothing whatsoever about it -> and Shanks knows this as well, which is why he didn’t do anything until now.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Yeah and he also didn’t crush Big Mom. It’s just aiming high. Let’s not be literalists.

True, he did not defeat her one on one, but she fell to the alliance Luffy formed.

 

[Juanpiz]

True, he did not defeat her one on one, but she fell to the alliance Luffy formed.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

He rules the poorer weaker areas of the world.

The places with power and that matter? In the new world?

Imu doesn't rule it.

Wano will clearly play a big part in Imu's downfall.

You realize Imu been around 800 years and Yonkous just came about right. Lol 😂 They won in the ancient kindom he the ruler

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I feel like it needs to be stated again lol, Oda has made it clear that in order to do something about the WG, you essentially need to be Pirate King and find One Piece.

Whitebeard says it to Blackbeard, Roger says it to Oden and Rayleigh, hell, even Blackbeard still absolutely aims for the One Piece in his dialogue to Law. Shanks and Buggy want One Piece for their own reasons. Luffy says he needs to be PK to have a shot at his secret dream.
You can even infer that Akainu entire directive as Fleet Admiral is to prevent anyone from getting One Piece, as it was for Sengoku.


The writing is on the wall guys. Ideally any not Imu shouldnt really last before Luffy is Pirate King and One Piece is found, regardless of their intentions against the WG itself. They are the primeval controlling entity in the world. Everything about this series stems from their control. Their secret leader is still unrevealed and enigmatic in nature.

The problem is Devon just touched Saturn and Caribou knows about the ancient weapons. So BB is doing everything at the sametime

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Isn't Davy Back Fight about traditional games meant to get crew members?


Unless oda makes change into this tradition to fit SHPs and RHPs then sure why not.

See, I am not against RHP vs SHP but I just don't see it becoming a serious one vs one fight to the end like with beast pirates/BBP

There is absolutely no build up/narrative for such fight to happen on serious note while we have BB rising on the sideline with whom both share bad blood

I know taking crew members is part of the agreement, but I'm not entirely sure those rules are set in stone. When Luffy beat Foxy, he took thier Jolly Roger, and sent them on thier way, after making them a new one.

I'm assuming whatever the captains agree upon, would serve to fullfill the terms of the fight, but I could be wrong.

And I agree, as I can never see them fighting in the same vain as the grudges Luffy develops with other characters he fights and defeats in the past.

If they ever did end up fighting, it would never be due to malicious intent towards the other. I feel it would serve a narrative purpose that's more in line with the way thier relationship is structured.

That depends entirely on Shanks’ motives and goals, which we do not know yet. He’s aware of the Nika awakening relevance, so it’s not ruled out yet that he fully wants Luffy to be The One. In fact Shanks himself told Buggy that he didn’t want to go for the One Piece, and he didn’t until now. So assuming that he wants to be in some death battle with Luffy is a stretch.

It would never be a death battle, but I would like to believe that the two of them respect each other enough, that if they ever were put into a situation where they are fighting for their dreams, that they would give it their all. Both of them going for the One Piece would present such a reason.

 

[Reborn]

I know taking crew members is part of the agreement, but I'm not entirely sure those rules are set in stone. When Luffy beat Foxy, he took thier Jolly Roger, and sent them on thier way, after making them a new one.

I'm assuming whatever the captains agree upon, would serve to fullfill the terms of the fight, but I could be wrong.

And I agree, as I can never see them fighting in the same vain as the grudges Luffy develops with other characters he fights and defeats in the past.

If they ever did end up fighting, it would never be due to malicious intent towards the other. I feel it would serve a narrative purpose that's more in line with the way thier relationship is structured.



It would never be a death battle, but I would like to believe that the two of them respect each other enough, that if they ever were put into a situation where they are fighting for their dreams, that they would give it their all. Both of them going for the One Piece would present such a reason.

I can agree with that.

A lot depends on the order in which these characters will cross path with Luffy and, as of now, it's becoming a big mess... exciting one but a mess anyway.

 

[zzShinichi]

Blackbeard is not the first Yonko who wants to take over the world tbh....
I prefer Blackbeard as the final antagonists but his crews suck balls to be the final obstacles for the SHs so eh

 

[Bogard]

Blackbeard heading for that final villain status

 

[Gol D. Roger]

At this point, it should be kidna obvious Im is the final villain. The most you can say is, BB will be the final pirate villain. BB Pirates vs SHs is right around the corner. I am also rather positive Buggy's gonna outlive BB in the PK race.

 

[YonkoGodLuffy]

Next arc SHP V BBP coming lesgo, its possible Laturns fraudulent ass fell in the sea but didn't die, but the water weakness applied to him, but at the same time his immortality saves him from drowning. So his kinda like Jack just stuck under the sea, that would allow the devon plot to go forward.

 

[Roo]

I hope so but I think Imu fits more as the FV thematically

 

[Bogard]

At this point, it should be kidna obvious Im is the final villain. The most you can say is, BB will be the final pirate villain. BB Pirates vs SHs is right around the corner. I am also rather positive Buggy's gonna outlive BB in the PK race.

More like the contrary. This chapter implied the battle for the One Piece will be what will decide it all
> Fate of the world will be decided by whoever finds the One Piece => The final crisis will be the battle for the One Piece
> Someone else other than the one Joyboy wants may find it => Blackbeard may find it

The second statement is in relationship with Whitebeard when he stated Blackbeard wasn't the one Roger was looking for, that one being the one Joyboy is looking for.

With Blackbeard being the one they don't want simply because instead of freeing the world, his mindset is about controlling it

 

[MegaSpider]

People forget that even if Blackbeard gives off FV energy, his crew doesn't.
Like do you see his wings reaching Prime Rayleigh level or higher? Shiryu is supposedly his best aside from Kuzan and guy would get destroyed by old Rayleigh, someone current Blackbeard still fears.
I could easily see BB and crew falling next arc to strawhats with their current portrayal.

 

[YonkoGodLuffy]

Nah. The final villain is the one still in silhouettes. BB is getting packed next arc.

 

[Definitivo]

Obviously Blackbeard is the final villain

 

[Pringles]

At this point, it should be kidna obvious Im is the final villain. The most you can say is, BB will be the final pirate villain. BB Pirates vs SHs is right around the corner. I am also rather positive Buggy's gonna outlive BB in the PK race.

- Blackbeard will be the final obstacle for the One Piece, he will be Luffy's main fight and he is the perfect antagonist of Luffy

- Imu will be JoyBoy's opponent after Luffy reaches Laugh Tale and has the One Piece, one has to reach Laugh Tale to even understand what happened to the world and Imu is JoyBoy's antagonist

 

[D. Plant]

The title in chapter 145: Carrying On His Will
Dr. Hiriluk's love to save people even if it means killing himself.
The title in chapter 625: Uninherited Will
Queen Otohime urges people to stop continuing the hatred instead learn to forgive even the most hated people on Earth.

Luffy's D inherited the love for the people and uninherited the hatred and comes to forgive them. From time to time, Luffy forgive his past enemies and they somehow become his allies certain point. So we might see Luffy beats Imu and forgive him/her and becomes Luffy's ally.

Blackbeard on the other hand is completely opposite of the Inherited will of Luffy. He inherited the hatred, urging to revenge ,and makes allies his enemies. This makes him impossible for Luffy to turn his entire bad inherited will around. That's why Blackbeard as FV makes more sense.

 

[GeneralP123]

More like the contrary. This chapter implied the battle for the One Piece will be what will decide it all
> Fate of the world will be decided by whoever finds the One Piece => The final crisis will be the battle for the One Piece
> Someone else other than the one Joyboy wants may find it => Blackbeard may find it

The second statement is in relationship with Whitebeard when he stated Blackbeard wasn't the one Roger was looking for, that one being the one Joyboy is looking for.

With Blackbeard being the one they don't want simply because instead of freeing the world, his mindset is about controlling it

Teach, the guy that's been built up for decades being the final villain is so much more satisfying than the man child introduced only in the final saga.
I'm one of the rare people that prefer the final fight against the government to come before finding the One Piece, after all, wouldn't it be kinda anticlimactic if the manga called "One Piece" doesn't end after the One Piece is found.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Teach, the guy that's been built up for decades being the final villain is so much more satisfying than the man child introduced only in the final saga.
I'm one of the rare people that prefer the final fight against the government to come before finding the One Piece, after all, wouldn't it be kinda anticlimactic if the manga called "One Piece" doesn't end after the One Piece is found.

Also, people ignore that we do not know BB's origin, he may have a connection to the void century himself.