Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

is it so hard to understand that every coin has 2 sides and there's an exception to everything??

I'm not talking about exceptions here. Of course there are always exception in everything.

I'm talking about a systemic problem

Is this so hard to understand ? Why can't people here understand the concept of systemism ?

Privatizing building with appartement and housing that are necessary for other people to get a housing (a human right) is a fundamental exploitative process. Not matter how much you gain from it. This is this precise problem that I target. This is what I called an subtle system of oppression.

Now, of course we can discuss the fact that some people are owning building that are inhabitable and therefore do not make money, but in large majority, people - in the west - are not in a poor wealth condition when owning such properties.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

I think people should be allowed the chance to buy the house after some time. Anyway houses primarily exist to house people, not for the (relatively) rich to farm money off the working class so it's a perversion of their reason to be. If we go off this tangent, someday in the future most of the houses will be owned by giant investment funds.

 

[AL sama]

I'm not talking about exceptions here. Of course there are always exception in everything.

I'm talking about a systemic problem

Is this so hard to understand ? Why can't people here understand the concept of systemism ?

Privatizing building with appartement and housing that are necessary for other people to get a housing (a human right) is a fundamental exploitative process. Not matter how much you gain from it. This is this precise problem that I target. This is what I called an subtle system of oppression.

Now, of course we can discuss the fact that some people are owning building that are inhabitable and therefore do not make money, but in large majority, people - in the west - are not in a poor wealth condition when owning such properties.

I don't have time to learn French and it's known fact that you don't understand English

 

[Uncle Van]

I think people should be allowed the chance to buy the house after some time. Anyway houses primarily exist to house people, not for the (relatively) rich to farm money off the working class so it's a perversion of their reason to be. If we go off this tangent, someday in the future most of the houses will be owned by giant investment funds.

Too late. As of now, about 25% of all houses in the US are owned by corporations and investment firms. Every economic downturn is gonna flip the scale towards the rich as the poor are forced to sell their homes to stay afloat.

 

[Logiko]

I don't have time to learn French and it's known fact that you don't understand English

And yet, I'm able to talk about subjects in English that you don't grasp.

 

[AL sama]

Same things Floating = floating/flying

floating isn't flying

From a pure storytelling perspective it's the best there is. Without question. Now taste are like colors. We have our own.

it's not

Yeah.. you are litterally ignoring the bubble in the panel here and inventing a jump that does not exist.

to be precise double jump similar to sanji's air walk

it lets the user remain or move in the air by jumping in the air once

a far weaker version of air walk

this

Sanji is smashing the air to jump while in midair.

Carrot is flaoting directly. This is far more efficient. I don't know why you are trying to prove that Carrot doesn't fly just to prove a point. The manga is against you on this one.




Of course but Law is not a candidate or a strawhat. This is a proof that Oda is blurring the lines here.


Yes it is lol, what is that logic?


Let's agree to disagree on that one



You are still ignoring the bubble..

kindly don't say it's not canon

It's not Canon. The anime screwed up on that one. Making Carrot look like that she was bouncing back from Zoro's sword..

it's more about you using wrong wording

bruh

we can float in water or air but we can't fly in water

Their is no error in the wording. Carrot is flying here meaning moving in midair with any other forces.

Well call it flying if you prefere then. And you can see that oda had that in mind for a long time: Volume 8 , editor's note.

but but but in the manga bubble the word used was "float" not "fly"

manga is canon so carrot can't f f f fly

reading all this now is super funny

 

[Logiko]

floating isn't flying

In the context used (Carrot changing her direction midair, yes it was). The word used was "floating", so in this case, "floating" meant "flying" :)

it's not

It is. Still is.

this

And this ^ is wrong. It was not a double jump, but change of direction. Not AT ALL created by anything related to a moon walk but by a SPECIFIC (and still unexplained) characteristic of Carrot.

That seems to by explained easily by Oda willingness to portray the legend of the flying rabbit he talked about here:

Thus once again proving that it was not a "floating" but really "a flying" action.

reading all this now is super funny

I I just proved you once again that you were wrong :)



Usuing literally the same argumentation. without even having to read the rest of your quotes.

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Thus showing that your assertion "I don't understand english", is in reality not me not understanding English, but you not understanding a simple manga panel.

We can go on for ages if you want. You will still be wrong.

 

[AL sama]

In the context used (Carrot changing her direction midair, yes it was). The word used was "floating", so in this case, "floating" meant "flying" :)


It is. Still is.


And this ^ is wrong. It was not a double jump, but change of direction. Not AT ALL created by anything related to a moon walk but by a SPECIFIC (and still unexplained) characteristic of Carrot.

That seems to by explained easily by Oda willingness to portray the legend of the flying rabbit he talked about here:

Thus once again proving that it was not a "floating" but really "a flying" action.


I I just proved you once again that you were wrong :)



Usuing literally the same argumentation. without even having to read the rest of your quotes.

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Thus showing that your assertion "I don't understand english", is in reality not me not understanding English, but you not understanding a simple manga panel.

you proved you don't know English

 

[Logiko]

you proved you don't know English

Not really no. Lol

But I see that you didn't understand the point.

 

[AL sama]

Not really no. Lol

But I see that you didn't understand the point.

you can carry on fam

I proved what I needed

 

[Logiko]

you can carry on fam

I proved what I needed

Me too

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

 

[Logiko]

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Too late. As of now, about 25% of all houses in the US are owned by corporations and investment firms. Every economic downturn is gonna flip the scale towards the rich as the poor are forced to sell their homes to stay afloat.

That's probably what the EU green transition is for. Some people won't be able to make their house green before the deadline and will sell it to a company that'll do it and rent it back to them.

 

[Zenos7]

I know only me and probably @AL sama remember this, but the funniest convo I saw here was Logiko claiming anyone who owned a building is an oppressor. Al's family owns an apartment building and the back and forth was fucking priceless

Ye lmao i remember sharing a link to the definition of "building", but we all know logiko doesnt operate like that

 

[Logiko]

Ye lmao i remember sharing a link to the definition of "building", but we all know logiko doesnt operate like that

I consider that searching to make a point with a dictionnary definition is a rethorical failure.

Dictionnaries are here to register words.

Problem: Languages constantly evolves. So dictionnaries have two major blind spots:

- They are usually slow at reproducting the realities of languages and sometimes the mere fact of updating a dictionnaries become a struggle or even the testimony of a class contempt.
- They can be used to reduce the complexity of a word, concept or element.

The second case is something that I face a LOT on this thread. Dictionnary definition used to reduce the complexity of a concept and sometimes, definition that are not even really updated to the reality of the world and the common usage.

 

[Zenos7]

I consider that searching to make a point with a dictionnary definition is a rethorical failure.

Dictionnaries are here to register words.

Problem: Languages constantly evolves. So dictionnaries have two major blind spots:

- They are usually slow at reproducting the realities of languages and sometimes the mere fact of updating a dictionnaries become a struggle or even the testimony of a class contempt.
- They can be used to reduce the complexity of a word, concept or element.

The second case is something that I face a LOT on this thread. Dictionnary definition used to reduce the complexity of a concept and sometimes, definition that are not even really updated to the reality of the world and the common usage.

Cry

 

[Logiko]

And people don't understand when I'm talking about facing toxicity...

 

[Zenos7]

And people don't understand when I'm talking about facing toxicity...

No one cares about you using words not as they are actually meant.

Language evolves, so do dictionaries. Building is very straight forward though and you just used it the wrong way back then. . .

Get over it and cry silently

 

[Logiko]

Language evolves, so do dictionaries. Building is very straight forward though and you just used it the wrong way back then. . .

No. I'm pretty sure I used it the good way. Someone who owns a building with rent appartments that could be used to house people is by defaut exploitative.

If there is something you don't understand about this sentence, I can deconstruct it for you.

Get over it and cry silently

And it goes on... and on.. lol