Controversial Whats a theory that you agreed with that crashed and burned?

[Chiji_]

I rode with zkk I admit and I accept my L, still enjoyed the arc

 

[The White Crane]

Sure i get all of that but maybe its not as deep as we want it to be for zoro since wano slapped us in the face that luffy is undoubtedly the mc. As u said Luffy got attributed some of the key elements that we pushed for with zkk like The dawn that follows,ryuma comparison (which in my head is still zoro/luffy hype) ,fulfillment of toki prophecy all was attributed to luffy ultimately.

For Zoro though and oda vision of it, it could be as simple as kaido return,zoro slays him, more ryuma/joyboy hype etc. and that all she wrote,as much as we wanted all those elements to go to zoro it might be a bit more cut and dry,and as i mentioned before killing the one man that is known to be unkillable (assuming luffy did not do this) is still something that is very respectable.
Also i know i am not on here pushing it like i did in the past zkk just narratively makes sense,i still believe oda will make it happen and i do believe oda will give zoro his shot to finish the fish dragon that is kaido. Sure it might not be exactly how i would have done it in wano but i think oda will pull through. For myself i am happy with zoro killing him and having a comparison to ryuma/luffy whether or not oda takes us back to wano, or gives it to me on a much grander scale like kaido showing up at the final war and it happening there i won't complain.


Also to those that are going to say this yes i know its copium





EDIT: We also know luffy does not kill he crushes people dreams so zoro getting the killing blow later could also just be all oda is aiming for with zoro vs kaido.

At least you're aware that your expectation is copium. I sympathize.

This.
ZKK had sense when and where It was conceived. Not before not after.

Zoro "randomly" Killing Kaido would just be a powerlevel step like any other. You can have Zoro killing Dragon (just to mantain the dragon-theme) and It would be the same.

Zoro wasn't publicly recognized as the new Ryuma, but Luffy was (lol); Zoro wasn't the one that fought the main invader like Ryuma, It was Luffy; Zoro didn't cut a Dragon above the capital as Ryuma did (well, Oda made Zoro cut King's dragon, which was basically insulting since the premise lol. Oda almost trolled).

Now It's done. There are other things ahead.

Well said.

 

[moreha9685]

That the Gorosei were all Joyboy's crew from the Void Century who mutinied against him.

I thought that maybe Bonney hadn't actually eaten her Devil Fruit yet. This was before we found out about Saturn's experiments. I thought the unique "time travelling" properties of Bonney's Age Fruit would be used more in her "origin". I thought that, sometime in the future, Bonney would eat her Fruit while she was in her 5 year old body. Therefore, because of the power of the Age Fruit, she would gain the power of her Age Fruit whenever she was in her 5 year old body, anywhere in time.

I thought they were going to make Luffy's hometown special, and maybe make it a target for the Final War.

I thought Lucci and CP9 would come back as allies for the Strawhats after they left in their cover story.

I thought that maybe Imu was the person who inspired the creation of the Nika Fruit.

I thought that Rocks found a way to "edit" or "change" or "create" Devil Fruits on God Valley.

Then Luffy would hear the story about Nika and how he's prophesied to be reborn someday...and then Luffy would go on a NEW adventure to try to find this guy because he'd want him to join his crew, because he sounds like a fun guy.

All more worthy ideas than what we got in the end.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

At least you're aware that your expectation is copium. I sympathize.



Well said.

lol it is without a doubt a unpopular opinion at this stage of one piece copium with a bit of narrative to help me out

 

[Dragon777]

Now talking, another ZKK came to my mind: Zoro killing Kizaru.

I was never on board with Zoro killing him, but I was damn sure those two were going to have a moment; possibly with Zoro stopping Kizaru from killing a mugi in a specific moment. A Sabaody like moment, even if less important.
Visually too It would have been beautiful:

Shogun of Wano is a powerful swordman but instead we have Orochi.

Wano was the biggest prank in one piece

Lol, true. I was so invested in the Wano Shogun. I really wanted a Zoro vs Ryuma 2.0.

What a shame.

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[Kizarugoat]

KKS may you rest in peace

 

[Dragon777]

lol it is without a doubt a unpopular opinion at this stage of one piece copium with a bit of narrative to help me out

Imho, it's more the fact that it would be just a powerlevel step; the narrative is gone:

This.
ZKK had sense when and where It was conceived. Not before not after.

Zoro "randomly" Killing Kaido would just be a powerlevel step like any other. You can have Zoro killing Dragon (just to mantain the dragon-theme) and It would be the same.

Zoro wasn't publicly recognized as the new Ryuma, but Luffy was (lol); Zoro wasn't the one that fought the main invader like Ryuma, It was Luffy; Zoro didn't cut a Dragon above the capital as Ryuma did (well, Oda made Zoro cut King's dragon, which was basically insulting since the premise lol. Oda almost trolled).

Now It's done. There are other things ahead.

It's better to look forward. Right now Zoro killing Kaido would be akin to Zoro killing Dragon as far as the narrative goes.

There are other and much more interesting possibilities for him.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

That the Gorosei were all Joyboy's crew from the Void Century who mutinied against him.

This is such a good theory

I have heard theories that Joyboy used to be allies with the 20 Kingd

 

[Toryu]

I completely forgot the Light Gloves, but back then I thought it was a obvious setup.

Awakening for BM and Kaidou.

Kizaru awakening in Egghead

 

[Deatheye]

Not sure if it counts as a theory, but I was 100% sure Oda will reveal Imu's face before he/she/it speaks in the anime.

 

[Toryu]

I also put stock on Mihawk fighting Zoro in Elbalf, but we shall see that. It looks improbable

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Imho, it's more the fact that it would be just a powerlevel step; the narrative is gone:



It's better to look forward. Right now Zoro killing Kaido would be akin to Zoro killing Dragon as far as the narrative goes.

There are other and much more interesting possibilities for him.

Lol I hear that, but I don’t think the narrative is ever gone as long as enma is a blade that exist ,and it does not break oda could narratively still make it happen. All it takes is kaidos return to the story and zkk is still there as a possibility narratively.

 

[Dragon777]

Lol I hear that, but I don’t think the narrative is ever gone as long as enma is a blade that exist ,and it does not break oda could narratively still make it happen. All it takes is kaidos return to the story and zkk is still there as a possibility narratively.

Personally speaking I can't say anything. One can like It or not, It's fine. However, outside of Wano and all the Ryuma plot Zoro killing Kaido Is just him killing a strong enemy; nothing more.
Enma's plot had a sense in Wano, now what could be? Hurting Kaido even more? And for what objective?
What remains is forging Enma black; if you think that could happen against Kaido, then maybe.

ZKK had sense because of Zoro new Ryuma, because of the dragon killed over the Capital like Ryuma, because of the Oden plot. Now Is all well and gone.

Zoro killing Shanks' brother or an Admiral or a Gorosei would be more intresting and way more plot connected.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

That Devil Fruits and Haki are based on the real life principle of electromagnetism.

I remember this theory from a user on OJ (was it you?)
One of the best theories ever!

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Reiju joining the SH and falling in love with Zoro
Not a theory strictly speaking but I was so for it and was disappointed when Reiju was just left behind.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Credit to @zzShinichi for the idea


Hmmm for me Bonney being related to big mom theory made all kinds of sense

Both have the same pink color asethic, both have the food theme, both well known pirates.

It all just made sense to me, then wabam space jam Ginny shows up

I stand firmly on the hill that Bonney was meant to be Big Mom's clone, but Oda realized how fucking obvious it was, and made that bait and turned her into Kuma's daughter, instead. Vegapunk's entire arc is about cloning, and Bonney has the same design language and personality as Linlin to a great degree.

OG plotline was Kuma rescued Big Mom's clone from Vegapunk (probably at Vegapunk's request), and raised her as his daughter.

Oda transformed this into Ginny to give Kuma more depth/tragedy, and to tie Kuma's plot into the evil of the Celestial Dragons.

I honestly like the change, though Kuma's flashback did drag a bit at the end.