Controversial Whats a theory that you agreed with that crashed and burned?
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Sure i get all of that but maybe its not as deep as we want it to be for zoro since wano slapped us in the face that luffy is undoubtedly the mc. As u said Luffy got attributed some of the key elements that we pushed for with zkk like The dawn that follows,ryuma comparison (which in my head is still zoro/luffy hype) ,fulfillment of toki prophecy all was attributed to luffy ultimately.
For Zoro though and oda vision of it, it could be as simple as kaido return,zoro slays him, more ryuma/joyboy hype etc. and that all she wrote,as much as we wanted all those elements to go to zoro it might be a bit more cut and dry,and as i mentioned before killing the one man that is known to be unkillable (assuming luffy did not do this) is still something that is very respectable.
Also i know i am not on here pushing it like i did in the past
zkk just narratively makes sense,i still believe oda will make it happen and i do believe oda will give zoro his shot to finish the fish dragon that is kaido. Sure it might not be exactly how i would have done it in wano but i think oda will pull through. For myself i am happy with zoro killing him and having a comparison to ryuma/luffy whether or not oda takes us back to wano, or gives it to me on a much grander scale like kaido showing up at the final war and it happening there i won't complain.
Also to those that are going to say this yes i know its copium
EDIT: We also know luffy does not kill he crushes people dreams so zoro getting the killing blow later could also just be all oda is aiming for with zoro vs kaido.
For Zoro though and oda vision of it, it could be as simple as kaido return,zoro slays him, more ryuma/joyboy hype etc. and that all she wrote,as much as we wanted all those elements to go to zoro it might be a bit more cut and dry,and as i mentioned before killing the one man that is known to be unkillable (assuming luffy did not do this) is still something that is very respectable.
Also i know i am not on here pushing it like i did in the past
zkk just narratively makes sense,i still believe oda will make it happen and i do believe oda will give zoro his shot to finish the fish dragon that is kaido. Sure it might not be exactly how i would have done it in wano but i think oda will pull through. For myself i am happy with zoro killing him and having a comparison to ryuma/luffy whether or not oda takes us back to wano, or gives it to me on a much grander scale like kaido showing up at the final war and it happening there i won't complain.Also to those that are going to say this yes i know its copium
EDIT: We also know luffy does not kill he crushes people dreams so zoro getting the killing blow later could also just be all oda is aiming for with zoro vs kaido.
Well said.
Now talking, another ZKK came to my mind: Zoro killing Kizaru.
I was never on board with Zoro killing him, but I was damn sure those two were going to have a moment; possibly with Zoro stopping Kizaru from killing a mugi in a specific moment. A Sabaody like moment, even if less important.
Visually too It would have been beautiful:
Lol, true. I was so invested in the Wano Shogun. I really wanted a Zoro vs Ryuma 2.0.
What a shame.
I was never on board with Zoro killing him, but I was damn sure those two were going to have a moment; possibly with Zoro stopping Kizaru from killing a mugi in a specific moment. A Sabaody like moment, even if less important.
Visually too It would have been beautiful:
Lol, true. I was so invested in the Wano Shogun. I really wanted a Zoro vs Ryuma 2.0.
What a shame.
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lol it is without a doubt a unpopular opinion at this stage of one piece copium with a bit of narrative to help me out
It's better to look forward. Right now Zoro killing Kaido would be akin to Zoro killing Dragon as far as the narrative goes.
There are other and much more interesting possibilities for him.
Personally speaking I can't say anything. One can like It or not, It's fine. However, outside of Wano and all the Ryuma plot Zoro killing Kaido Is just him killing a strong enemy; nothing more.
Enma's plot had a sense in Wano, now what could be? Hurting Kaido even more? And for what objective?
What remains is forging Enma black; if you think that could happen against Kaido, then maybe.
ZKK had sense because of Zoro new Ryuma, because of the dragon killed over the Capital like Ryuma, because of the Oden plot. Now Is all well and gone.
Zoro killing Shanks' brother or an Admiral or a Gorosei would be more intresting and way more plot connected.
Enma's plot had a sense in Wano, now what could be? Hurting Kaido even more? And for what objective?
What remains is forging Enma black; if you think that could happen against Kaido, then maybe.
ZKK had sense because of Zoro new Ryuma, because of the dragon killed over the Capital like Ryuma, because of the Oden plot. Now Is all well and gone.
Zoro killing Shanks' brother or an Admiral or a Gorosei would be more intresting and way more plot connected.
I stand firmly on the hill that Bonney was meant to be Big Mom's clone, but Oda realized how fucking obvious it was, and made that bait and turned her into Kuma's daughter, instead. Vegapunk's entire arc is about cloning, and Bonney has the same design language and personality as Linlin to a great degree.
OG plotline was Kuma rescued Big Mom's clone from Vegapunk (probably at Vegapunk's request), and raised her as his daughter.
Oda transformed this into Ginny to give Kuma more depth/tragedy, and to tie Kuma's plot into the evil of the Celestial Dragons.
I honestly like the change, though Kuma's flashback did drag a bit at the end.
OG plotline was Kuma rescued Big Mom's clone from Vegapunk (probably at Vegapunk's request), and raised her as his daughter.
Oda transformed this into Ginny to give Kuma more depth/tragedy, and to tie Kuma's plot into the evil of the Celestial Dragons.
I honestly like the change, though Kuma's flashback did drag a bit at the end.
