I said that it will prevent gun violences. The argument that banning gun will not work because violence will be here anyway is the same as saying that if a class has access to gun or baseball bats it's the same thing.

Reducing gun, reduces gun violence by defaut and therefore it reduces crimes also. It's documented.
Would you rather solve the underlying issues in society or just ban everything, treating the citizens like toddlers?
 
Lmao. Allow me to elucidate the concept of humility in this context: to show humility in your situation is to show appreciation for people like Van who actually do a valuable public service instead of shitting on them. I have no problem with society assisting individuals who cannot work, it's part of many governance systems in Europe.

What I have an issue with is a person who will twist every comment, jab at every person who disagrees, all the while playing the victim because he has a mental illness. My friend is incredibly grateful to a society that supports him - meanwhile you spit proverbial venom all day, venom that is disguised as kindness.

My issue with you is not that you have a condition. My issue with you is that you use that condition as a smokescreen to protect yourself. You act entitled. You should be grateful to people like Van who perform vital services. You should be grateful to a society that props you up and supports you. Instead you mock those people. It's sick.

I've never seen you concede a single point, talk empathetically with someone about their struggles even if you do not understand, try to understand other people's points of view. Instead you attack them. You deride them. You, quite frankly, try to dehumanise them.

If you felt any level of offense at how I spoke to you before (and surely you did, by your diatribe), then you might actually have a golden opportunity here. Instead of your so-called righteous indignation (which no doubt stems from your ego being stung), try to think about how what YOU say impacts others. Not just: "Oh, they're wrong so their anger is injust," but seriously try to see how your needling can impact other people.

I know what I said was harsh. But I think you deserved it.
Fluffy, will you ever get off your high ass horse for duck's sake? It's so cringe at this point, I'm feeling second hand embarrassment from reading your condescending, arrogant posts with that holier than thou attitude, overuse of Latin-based words and authoritative statements. You're not anybody's parent or teacher here. Holy hell
 
Would you rather solve the underlying issues in society or just ban everything, treating the citizens like toddlers?
- We know Human societies are influenced by material conditions. It's a scientific consensus.
- We know that reducing gun will reduce Gun violences. It's also a scientific consensus.

So can we stop the assertion that because we want to ban things, then it's because we are treating citizens like toddlers ?

We don't live in an idealist but a materialistic world. If we don't modify the material conditions in which humans are evolving, there are NO CHANGES possible.
 
Fluffy, will you ever get off your high ass horse for duck's sake? It's so cringe at this point, I'm feeling second hand embarrassment from reading your condescending, arrogant posts with that holier than thou attitude, overuse of Latin-based words and authoritative statements. You're not anybody's parent or teacher here. Holy hell
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- We know Human societies are influenced by material conditions. It's a scientific consensus.
- We know that reducing gun will reduce Gun violences. It's also a scientific consensus.

So can we stop the assertion that because we want to ban things, then it's because we are treating citizens like toddlers ?

We don't live in an idealist but a materialistic world. If we don't modify the material conditions in which humans are evolving, there are NO CHANGES possible.
Come to Latin America and see how well gun control works. Look up any gore website and you will see Brazilian and Mexican gang members absolutely brutalizing unarmed people. The right of self defense is a human right , bozo.
Reality of gun control: Crime won't stop cause organized crimes gives no shit about laws. Meanwhile, law abiding citizens will be unarmed and will be picked off like cattle in a slaughter house. No gun control ever stopped any criminal from buying or making him own firearm using illicit means. Shinzo Abe says hello.
Law abiding citizens do not buy legal weapons to commit crime. Most crime is committed by 1% of the population and they are often done by the same people over and over again.
 
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The problem of South America goes far beyond gun control.
Gun control down here only serves to let people be completely defenseless in face of violent criminals. You think the police go up those favelas to protect citizens from killers? Answer: They don't.
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The problem of South America goes far beyond gun control.
Its not only about Latin America. Its about citizens right of self defense and insurrectional power. Even in places like Japan there are killers. The victim is always the first responder.
 
- We know Human societies are influenced by material conditions. It's a scientific consensus.
- We know that reducing gun will reduce Gun violences. It's also a scientific consensus.

So can we stop the assertion that because we want to ban things, then it's because we are treating citizens like toddlers ?

We don't live in an idealist but a materialistic world. If we don't modify the material conditions in which humans are evolving, there are NO CHANGES possible.
My fluffy you're not answering my question. There is no need to repeat your last posts again, I already read them and they lack understanding of the actual problems at hand. And since you seem to hold the opinion that banning things willy nilly is not a problem–what about banning knives not only outside but in our homes? What about banning all work utensils and criminalizing manual work, home cooking, gardening etc? Let's force the people to pay specialized companies for such mundane tasks because allowing them to own utensils is too dangerous because they are dumb and potential criminals& murderers. Don't tell me you don't see where this is heading fluffy. Come on :lawsigh:
C4N can't understand freedom:pepestop:
In.all honesty, I hate what the likes of you have done to the word freedom.

Crime won't stop come organized crimes gives no shit about laws.
This.
Look up any gore website and you will see Brazilian and Mexican gang members absolutely brutalizing unarmed people.
Oh yes. And their rival gang members.
The problem of South America goes far beyond gun control.
Oh boy you have never been 'ore correct about anything.
You think the police go up those favelas to protect citizens from killers?
No because the police ARE the gangsters. Police and politicians also profit from the drug trade.
 
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