Controversial General Political Discussion

[Mathias]

I spend time in leftist spaces

Perhaps it was a bit of stretch to call them all communists. But they are communist adjacent.

They don’t see communism as this evil boogeyman but an ideal that societies ought to aspire to achieve.

Not really. You will find plenty of social democrats who are anti communist to the point of betraying and killing commies.

That’s because communism and socialism are quite interchangeable, and only recently the distinction has grown between the two

« Recently » as in more than a century ago

 

[Blax Blah]

Not really. You will find plenty of social democrats who are anti communist to the point of betraying and killing commies.



« Recently » as in more than a century ago

Relatively recent, actually I think if you look at the development of ideas of political theory, up until now, that happened 2/3 of the way through,

 

[Roo]

« Recently » as in more than a century ago

I’ve used Castro as an example, and he rose as a communist figure in the 60s lol

 

[Blax Blah]

I’ve used Castro as an example, and he rose as a communist figure in the 60s lol

Lol I didn't expect that to have happened in the 60s,

 

[Mathias]

Relatively recent, actually I think if you look at the development of ideas of political theory, up until now, that happened 2/3 of the way through,

Manifesto published in 1848. Menchevik and Bolshevik divorced in 1903

 

[Blax Blah]

Did you hear what happened because of THAT person? Incredibly bad decision coming from THAT person. If we still had THAT person, things would be so much better…

Yeah,

 

[Rej]

Hey, I have a suggestion, would you like to hold discussions about topics we chose, like @Uncle Van does in this message, the message being specifically about the election, and we can make polls on what to discuss and in what order, vote on them to decide, and when we discuss something, we can say what we think about ti, why we think that about it, and recommend resources and literature to learn more?,

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Hey bro, somehow your tags did not work.

I am not really in mood to talk american politics. My mind is with ukraine, korea and middle east.

And I dislike all presidental candidates of the united states. :/

 

[Blax Blah]

Hey, I have a suggestion, would you like to hold discussions about topics we chose, like @Uncle Van does in this message, the message being specifically about the election, and we can make polls on what to discuss and in what order, vote on them to decide, and when we discuss something, we can say what we think about ti, why we think that about it, and recommend resources and literature to learn more?,

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@Mathias @Zenos7 @Monkey D Theories @NAMELESS @Roo @Brush D. Teeth @Rej @NikaInParis @Alexis2282AE @Logiko @Toby D. Dog @Mr. Reloaded @Daniel @Apollo @Adeer Ruckus @AL sama
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Hey bro, somehow your tags did not work.

I am not really in mood to talk american politics. My mind is with ukraine, korea and middle east.

And I dislike all presidental candidates of the united states. :/

I think it is because I edited the tags in after I sent the message, thabk you a lot =]

It's alrighty, it can be about any topic, we can suggest some and vote on which we should talk about and in what order if you want to,

 

[Uncle Van]

Socialism is the belief in a society where the workers control the means of production. Even if they don't control it, you are still socialistic if you think workers need more power and/or capitalism needs to be nerfed.

True communism is a society that is stateless, moneyless, and classes. The communist manifesto of 1848 was a product of the insanely dystopian capitalism of that time(no regulated work days, hours, benefits, age etc.). Dudes like Lennin tried achieving true communism via revolt and a dictatorship, turning the nation into a communist one overtime. Joseph Stalin happened and it became a communist state with a dictator. There's like...8 different versions of communism now.

 

[Rej]

@Mathias @Zenos7 @Monkey D Theories @NAMELESS @Roo @Brush D. Teeth @Rej @NikaInParis @Alexis2282AE @Logiko @Toby D. Dog @Mr. Reloaded @Daniel @Apollo @Adeer Ruckus @AL sama
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I think it is because I edited the tags in after I sent the message, thabk you a lot =]

It's alrighty, it can be about any topic, we can suggest some and vote on which we should talk about and in what order if you want to,

I wont be that active here until the presidental elections are over (my vacation ends).
But I am all in for eurasian politics. Especially Korea and eastern europe.

 

[Mathias]

.8 different versions of communism now.

All of which are authoritarian

 

[Blax Blah]

All of which are authoritarian

I don't know a lot about this, but what do you think about the zapatistas, makhnovia, and the soviets of free workers that existed before the bolshevik state?,

 

[Mathias]

I wont be that active here until the presidental elections are over (my vacation ends).
But I am all in for eurasian politics. Especially Korea and eastern europe.

What’s the plan with Ukraine ? Resisting for ever ? Or is there a plan to put down Putin ? We must avoid Afghanistan 2.0 especially when we don’t have infinite soldiers.

Also is Taiwan good ? I heard China was firing bullets recently in their exercise…

I don't know a lot about this, but what do you think about the zapatistas, makhnovia, and the soviets of free workers that existed before the bolshevik state?,

Makhno the anarchist ? Got defeated by Russian commies. Don’t know if he did much. Don’t think so from what I recall.

Zapata in Chiapas ? Or the thing a century ago ? Thing in Chiapas looks kinda cool from what I know but it’s more pop culture than actual thing I guess.

YPG can be kinda cool too. They got famous by killing ISIS nazis and having lots of women in their ranks which made them symbolic in the West. Now they’re on their own because we don’t need them anymore… for the Turkish authorities they’re all terrorists no matter what group.



Nowadays more « modern » far left is preoccupied about direct democracy and social stuff because they kinda learned from Stalin and his friends I guess

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Hey, I have a suggestion, would you like to hold discussions about topics we chose, like @Uncle Van does in this message, the message being specifically about the election, and we can make polls on what to discuss and in what order, vote on them to decide, and when we discuss something, we can say what we think about ti, why we think that about it, and recommend resources and literature to learn more?,

@Mathias @Zenos7 @Monkey D Theories @NAMELESS @Roo @Brush D. Teeth @Rej @NikaInParis @Alexis2282AE @Logiko @Toby D. Dog @Mr. Reloaded @Daniel @Apollo @Adeer Ruckus @AL sama

I'm down for it

 

[AL sama]

Hey, I have a suggestion, would you like to hold discussions about topics we chose, like @Uncle Van does in this message, the message being specifically about the election, and we can make polls on what to discuss and in what order, vote on them to decide, and when we discuss something, we can say what we think about ti, why we think that about it, and recommend resources and literature to learn more?,

@Mathias @Zenos7 @Monkey D Theories @NAMELESS @Roo @Brush D. Teeth @Rej @NikaInParis @Alexis2282AE @Logiko @Toby D. Dog @Mr. Reloaded @Daniel @Apollo @Adeer Ruckus @AL sama

not worth it

most people here in this thread aren't worth discussing anything

 

[Mathias]

not worth it

most people here in this thread aren't worth discussing anything

I was gonna post this instead of my other post. But I chose not to be cynical for once


But I agree

 

[NAMELESS]

well shit around 80-90% is still the majority though?

I see you didn't read the whole fucking article and you butting in this discussion just to look cool. Touch grass.
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Hey, I have a suggestion, would you like to hold discussions about topics we chose, like @Uncle Van does in this message, the message being specifically about the election, and we can make polls on what to discuss and in what order, vote on them to decide, and when we discuss something, we can say what we think about ti, why we think that about it, and recommend resources and literature to learn more?,

@Mathias @Zenos7 @Monkey D Theories @NAMELESS @Roo @Brush D. Teeth @Rej @NikaInParis @Alexis2282AE @Logiko @Toby D. Dog @Mr. Reloaded @Daniel @Apollo @Adeer Ruckus @AL sama

nah fuck that, just let politics thread die. If it were up to me, i would nuke this entire subforum and ban anyone that posted anything politics related in this weeb forum.

 

[Mathias]

nah fuck that, just politics thread die. If it were up to me, i would nuke this entire subforum and ban anyone that posted anything politics related in this weeb forum.

Wanna self sabotage

Political Weebs Lives Matter !!!

 

[NAMELESS]

I don't think they have all the power, but a lot of it and perhaps the majority of it.

In Europe, these people don't run the show in Africa, Latin America Asia and the Middle East for example. Its just in Europe and America that they have massive influence.
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Wanna self sabotage

Political Weebs Lives Matter !!!

Most of my activity here recently took place because either someone quotted me or tagged me. I'm trying to stay away from this cursed thread as much as possible.
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Wanna self sabotage

Political Weebs Lives Matter !!!

Politics turn any place toxic. People want to vent out instead of debating, so its better to make it a taboo topic in here. Same with religion.

 

[Mathias]

Most of my activity here recently took place because either someone quotted me or tagged me. I'm trying to stay away from this cursed thread as much as possible.
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Politics turn any place toxic. People want to vent out instead of debating, so its better to make it a taboo topic in here. Same with religion.

That’s what they all say « hoes are calling me, I don’t like them » but we always all end up in this hellhole


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