Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Maybe this will help in a bit, if the state is so used to having things more right and a weakened left then they may not be able to put down unions when the workers start to organise,

The more to the right, the stronger will be the pressure on workers.. With Trump, Unions will have no chances. Unless there are MASSIVE protest, blockades and strikes like the "Gilets Jaunes" in France.

 

[RogerRogerd]

Alrighty but isn't Elon pro Trump and owns twitter, and uses it to promote him?,

Twitter banned Trump. He bought a big share of it. He unbanned him. He likes him and posts about him a lot on there. That is as much as there is to understand about Trump's power over Twitter.

 

[Blax Blah]

The more to the right, the stronger will be the pressure on workers.. With Trump, Unions will have no chances. Unless there are MASSIVE protest, blockades and strikes like the "Gilets Jaunes" in France.

On workers yeah, but if there aren't many unions, if some do appear, especially if they have enough funds, they may not have the knowledge or experience to put them down as well as the state could have in the past,

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Twitter banned Trump. He bought a big share of it. He unbanned him. He likes him and posts about him a lot on there. That is as much as there is to understand about Trump's power over Twitter.

Weren't there hacks and leaks that showed twitter promoting right wing content?,

 

[Logiko]

On workers yeah, but if there aren't many unions, if some do appear, especially if they have enough funds, they may not have the knowledge or experience to put them down as well as the state could have in the past,

Why would a more capitalist deregulated system be weaker in front of unions ?

I don't understand the logic.

 

[Roo]

Lying out of your ass with that made up figure. You telling me we had $60 billion worth of m4s and 1911s?

"During DoD’s regular oversight of their execution of previous Presidential Drawdown Authority for Ukraine, they discovered that they had been incorrectly overvaluing the
weapons and equipment in previous PDAs that had been authorized or Ukraine. DoD then undertook a review using the appropriate accounting method, which restored $6.2 billion that can be used under Congressionally authorized drawdown authority to provide arms and equipment to meet Ukraine’s urgent security requirements."
https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-ukraine/
Mouth of the dragon. They said "oh we didnt send enough the first time, here's what we resent".
You can see the very long list of crazy shit they gave the Ukrainian government.
As far as allies go I recall at least 2 wars that began with major alliances. Of course having the least boots on the ground is better and less hostile. Hosting proxy wars by sending money and guns to whoever you want to win is also 100% better for the world given the CIA's track record in places like Vietnam, Laos, Iran, Afghanistan, etc. Plenty of Americans died in those place but plenty more foreign civilians due to how many American guns and bombs "end up" in that country.

You imbecile, you literally showed me a quote that agreed with me. We send weapons cache’s that are overall valued in the billions. Americans bitching about that are stupid because that isn’t cash money being sent, and it even isn’t free it’s all loans. We’re basically getting rid of old weaponry at a premium

Those are price you pay for making alliances. Giving up on allies is horrible foreign policy

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Palestinians are actually cooked fr now that Trump’s in office. Netanyahu will probably try to cleanse and settle Gaza.

Honestly feel like Egypt should just be the bigger man and give the Gazans refuge. Because if not that they’re going to get slaughtered.

 

[Buusatan94]

It's going to be four more years of clownery and hazards, and I dare not imagine the international antics, but at least things will be entertaining if depressing and baffling at times.

 

[Adamxero]

Alrighty but isn't Elon pro Trump and owns twitter, and uses it to promote him?,

You can't compare the media bias bro it's embarrassing.

The media were literally editing Kamala's interviews and trying to find nothing burgers on Trump 24/7

 

[SakazOuki]

It's going to be four more years of clownery and hazards, and I dare not imagine the international antics, but at least things will be entertaining if depressing and baffling at times.

No one will ever put on a better clown show than sleepy Joe and his gaffes, the end of an era

 

[RogerRogerd]

You imbecile, you literally showed me a quote that agreed with me. We send weapons cache’s that are overall valued in the billions. Americans bitching about that are stupid because that isn’t cash money being sent, and it even isn’t free it’s all loans. We’re basically getting rid of old weaponry at a premium

Those are price you pay for making alliances. Giving up on allies is horrible foreign policy

Silly because the post doesn't agree with you. No sane person or group of people will give away this much shit for free. And they're not "loans" by any conventional means.
https://www.history.com/news/germany-world-war-i-debt-treaty-versailles
Let's just say Ukraine wins the war 1 year from now. How long will it take for Ukraine to pay it all back? This lifetime? The next? How many kids will I have by then?
Okay now we don't have $60 billion worth of weapons stock pile anymore. Uhhh I guess we can live without it lmao. Better make sure Zelensky gets an accurate itemized bill. How do we get more weapons stockpile? Uhh idk just find some man.
America notorious for being one of the most military heavy nations on the planet and you don't think Americans ARENT gonna have to pay for a FEDERAL decision to give away $60 billion in weapons to REPLACE said weaponry?

 

[Germinator]

The more to the right, the stronger will be the pressure on workers.. With Trump, Unions will have no chances. Unless there are MASSIVE protest, blockades and strikes like the "Gilets Jaunes" in France.

Fuck unions

 

[Logiko]

Fuck unions

Oh yeah of course.. Workers having decent rights is so 2023

 

[Blax Blah]

Why would a more capitalist deregulated system be weaker in front of unions ?

I don't understand the logic.

The people in authority would be caught off guard, not have the experience, and maybe not have the knowledge, of how to put down a union, especially if the new unions that will come will learn from the mistakes of the ones before,

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Fuck unions

Why?,

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Oh yeah of course.. Workers having decent rights is so 2023

It isn't trendy yet and I can't think of a time when it was but it should become the standard soon =],

 

[Logiko]

The people in authority would be caught off guard, not have the experience, and maybe not have the knowledge, of how to put down a union, especially if the new unions that will come will learn from the mistakes of the ones before,

But the problem is that experience is not really an issue for those people, they just have to write laws to suppress people's right even more. Theirs capitalistic mindset is their weapon, not their experience.

I would prefer 100x more face a democrates with bad takes on workers right but a large experience than a liberatarian with no experience but with radical ideas..

 

[NAMELESS]

Yo Ukraine can suck it. I've seen the vids of both sides doing abhorrent shit to each other. Totally unnecessary bloodshed while Zelensky flies all around the world in cosplay begging for money instead of actually doing shit in his country. And after we've given them so much...
As for Taiwan I hope Trump intervenes somehow but realistically its not an American issue. The American issue is really China and their gross overstepping of their business practices. If Trump cuts them off somehow (he hates the Chinese) perhaps Taiwan has a way to get away from the big guy.

Taiwan is a strategic nation. It provides high tech to everyone in the world.

 

[Blax Blah]

But the problem is that experience is not really an issue for those people, they just have to write laws to suppress people's right even more. Theirs capitalistic mindset is their weapon, not their experience.

I would prefer 100x more face a democrates with bad takes on workers right but a large experience than a liberatarian with no experience but with radical ideas..

Maybe so, but things will end up well,

 

[Kerkovian]

 

[Blax Blah]

Luffy Holmes investigating,

 

[Reborn]

This literally already started happening with his last term.

I don't know what you are talking about

Blacks, Latinos, Amish and many legal migrants like philipino - Americans - men and women voted for Trump.

Minorities and legal migrants and women in vast number stood with the same Guy whom you all branded as fascists and created fear that he will throw them out...



I will tell you in simple terms - majority didn't fall for the over the top BS fear that was created if Trump wins the election..

 

[Blax Blah]

I don't know what you are talking about

Blacks, Latinos, Amish and many legal migrants like philipino - Americans - men and women voted for Trump.

Minorities and legal migrants and women in vast number stood with the same Guy whom you all branded as fascists and created fear that he will throw them out...



I will tell you in simple terms - majority didn't fall for the over the top BS fear that was created if Trump wins the election..

We will see what happens, I would rather Trump not do that, if he doesn't that's great,