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People voting against their interests is not new.
Now watch as:
- Women die because of abortion bans
- Hate against muslim rises
- Gaza gets obliterated and colonized
- Neo Nazi and white supremacist movements start to get bigger and bigger
- People gets poorer and poorer
- Insecurity rises because of poverty
- More black people gets shoot out
- LGBTQI+ start to die
- The economy falls
- Anti-constitutional speech start to rise
Good luck with that.
Yeah, They are not angry and organized enough
Now watch as:
- Women die because of abortion bans
- Hate against muslim rises
- Gaza gets obliterated and colonized
- Neo Nazi and white supremacist movements start to get bigger and bigger
- People gets poorer and poorer
- Insecurity rises because of poverty
- More black people gets shoot out
- LGBTQI+ start to die
- The economy falls
- Anti-constitutional speech start to rise
Good luck with that.
Yeah, They are not angry and organized enough
Baseless fears ? You do understand that what I'm saying here are not projections, but the extrapolations the data of events that are already happening, right ?
A baseless fear is to treat Migrants like criminal. This is a baseless fear. What I'm telling you is show you the facts. And you prefer to listen fear mongering rather than researchers and activists telling you that there is an imminent danger.
Have fun dealing with the situation and the rise of fascism, you guyz are screwed. Just as a warning. The moment Trump starts to attack the constitution. You can say bye bye.
A baseless fear is to treat Migrants like criminal. This is a baseless fear. What I'm telling you is show you the facts. And you prefer to listen fear mongering rather than researchers and activists telling you that there is an imminent danger.
Have fun dealing with the situation and the rise of fascism, you guyz are screwed. Just as a warning. The moment Trump starts to attack the constitution. You can say bye bye.
No. It's someone with a status that is considered illegal by the system. Nothing more.
Migrants are people who - most of the times - have no choice but to move. So calling them criminal is inhuman by nature.
On top of that, Migration - legal or illegal - is beneficial to the economy. So anyone trying to tell you that it is a problem is only concerned about appealing to identitary and probably racist values.
Migrants are people who - most of the times - have no choice but to move. So calling them criminal is inhuman by nature.
On top of that, Migration - legal or illegal - is beneficial to the economy. So anyone trying to tell you that it is a problem is only concerned about appealing to identitary and probably racist values.
Or we simply can use the infrastructure that already exist or vacant properties ?
Also, if I had the place, the proper wealth and the right situation, I would. Quite literally.
But I guess that you prefer to see rich people keep their empty properties rather than seeing people in difficulties be welcomed with humanity.
Look at yourself just how low you put your humanity cursor. I hope you never talk to me about caring about people in difficulty. That would be quite the hypocrisy.
Also, if I had the place, the proper wealth and the right situation, I would. Quite literally.
But I guess that you prefer to see rich people keep their empty properties rather than seeing people in difficulties be welcomed with humanity.
Look at yourself just how low you put your humanity cursor. I hope you never talk to me about caring about people in difficulty. That would be quite the hypocrisy.
This just isn’t true
Immigrants aren’t coming from Gaza or Ukraine
They are economic migrants. They pass through Mexico, which is better off than most developing countries.
And no, concern about immigration isn’t inherently racist. Immigration can destabilize a nation. If you want an example of this, go look at the Middle East.
Look what Zionism did to the Palestinians, or what happened to the countries surrounding Israel when they were forced to take in thousands of refugees from the Nakba.
Immigrants aren’t coming from Gaza or Ukraine
They are economic migrants. They pass through Mexico, which is better off than most developing countries.
And no, concern about immigration isn’t inherently racist. Immigration can destabilize a nation. If you want an example of this, go look at the Middle East.
Look what Zionism did to the Palestinians, or what happened to the countries surrounding Israel when they were forced to take in thousands of refugees from the Nakba.
Personally, I don’t think immigration is a very good thing.
it really is a product of global capitalism that keeps unequal systems unequal.
My parents and my aunt and uncle are all highly educated immigrants that left India for the US. It’s understandable, india is tbh a shitty country and a lot of people have a strong desire to GTFO.
But the result of this is that the west steals Indian labor and uses it for their own benefit. Look at all the Indian immigrant CEOs working in the west. Imagine how much better off india would be if those people never left.
immigration also increases racism and sectarian conflicts. Surprisingly adding a ton of foreigners to an already established society isn’t without consequence.
my take is that the US and similar countries should limit immigration and focus on improving the conditions of the average citizen, as well as current migrants already residing in the country. We should also stop exploiting other countries and try to make them better, so that they stop sending people to our borders.
it really is a product of global capitalism that keeps unequal systems unequal.
My parents and my aunt and uncle are all highly educated immigrants that left India for the US. It’s understandable, india is tbh a shitty country and a lot of people have a strong desire to GTFO.
But the result of this is that the west steals Indian labor and uses it for their own benefit. Look at all the Indian immigrant CEOs working in the west. Imagine how much better off india would be if those people never left.
immigration also increases racism and sectarian conflicts. Surprisingly adding a ton of foreigners to an already established society isn’t without consequence.
my take is that the US and similar countries should limit immigration and focus on improving the conditions of the average citizen, as well as current migrants already residing in the country. We should also stop exploiting other countries and try to make them better, so that they stop sending people to our borders.
Which is exactly what "no choice" means. Do you think that people just risk having their kids taken away, their lives ruined just because they want to have a better pay check ?
FFS wake the F up.
Some people are risking their lives just to get in Europe or the US and what they get in return is people calling them illegals or criminals.
Yes it is. Immigrantion is fundamentaly beneficial for the economy. It's a known fact. The only reason why people get mad is because of identitary values and nothing more.
No. The far right and liberals can use immigration to destabilize a nation. NUANCE.
Immigration is a problem only because there is an identitary reject happening.
Middle east what ? Those countries are in war and the reason is not immigration, but the imperialism of the west, the opportunism of the East, and the religious tensions.
This is not immigration, this is colonization, meaning a state using state violence and the army to wipe out generations of people. It's has NOTHING to do with immigration. People welcomed Jewish at the start and even if there was some tensions, it could have go well if Israel restricted itself from attacking everyone.
As for the refugees, the problem is the same, it's not an immigration problem, but a welcoming one.
Good, tell that to poor people people who live under the treat of drug cartels. Such wise words...
Oh no, we won't stop, because the problem is not us, but this system and you who have the humanity cursor to the minimum. So low in term of dehumanization that you don't even see the problem with calling people who risk their lives to get in... "illegals".
Once you live your home and give up your previous life to risk your life to get across a border, no matter as you see it, those people are in difficulty and need help.
It's like saying that the problem in rape cases are women dressing fancy when the problems are men are patriarchy. The problem is capitalism, not immigration.
Target the right problem and not the victims of it.
So.. the problem is capitalism and the bad treatment of migrants. Got ya.
Wrong. Liberals octracizes migrants and the far right in many country create moral panic over migrants.
Again, the problem is not immigration. You are looking naively at the wrong problem.
FFS wake the F up.
Some people are risking their lives just to get in Europe or the US and what they get in return is people calling them illegals or criminals.
Yes it is. Immigrantion is fundamentaly beneficial for the economy. It's a known fact. The only reason why people get mad is because of identitary values and nothing more.
No. The far right and liberals can use immigration to destabilize a nation. NUANCE.
Immigration is a problem only because there is an identitary reject happening.
Middle east what ? Those countries are in war and the reason is not immigration, but the imperialism of the west, the opportunism of the East, and the religious tensions.
This is not immigration, this is colonization, meaning a state using state violence and the army to wipe out generations of people. It's has NOTHING to do with immigration. People welcomed Jewish at the start and even if there was some tensions, it could have go well if Israel restricted itself from attacking everyone.
As for the refugees, the problem is the same, it's not an immigration problem, but a welcoming one.
Good, tell that to poor people people who live under the treat of drug cartels. Such wise words...
Oh no, we won't stop, because the problem is not us, but this system and you who have the humanity cursor to the minimum. So low in term of dehumanization that you don't even see the problem with calling people who risk their lives to get in... "illegals".
Once you live your home and give up your previous life to risk your life to get across a border, no matter as you see it, those people are in difficulty and need help.
It's like saying that the problem in rape cases are women dressing fancy when the problems are men are patriarchy. The problem is capitalism, not immigration.
Target the right problem and not the victims of it.
So.. the problem is capitalism and the bad treatment of migrants. Got ya.
Wrong. Liberals octracizes migrants and the far right in many country create moral panic over migrants.
Again, the problem is not immigration. You are looking naively at the wrong problem.
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I don't know what you mean by man-power but could you please point me to where I can learn about it?,
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I don't know what you mean by man-power but could you please point me to where I can learn about it?,