Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Don't try to gaslight me. You started it. You brought stuff about my nation from 130+ years ago.

Yup, after you called leftists and revolutionnary evil and massively hypocritical

>>>

No, they have always been like that. The French and Russian revolutions were bloodbaths. These guys are evil and massively hypocritical.

No gaslight here. I only replied to your attack. But instead of attacking you on the progressive movement in your country, I attacked the genocide your country was build on.

In other words, I played fair game.

You said buying a burger from Mcpoison is equal to killing Palestinians.

Never, no.

Going by your logic, your tax payers are killing Africans too.

Nop. But we have indirect blood on our hands yes, for example because the elected president is helping Israel. But it's not our fault in this context since, well...

We don't have a choice.

I never see you saying anything about France in here.

Oh really ?

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I don't hate Europe. I just despise our history. Nuance.

Do germans needs to defends Nazi to be proud to be germans ? No. So stop trying to say that because we denounce the crimes and imperialism of Europeans, we de facto hate Europe.

I provided the evidence you needed, if you are not ok with it. Not my fault. And if you still don't understand what imperialism is, type "Africa", "Bollore" "working condition" in google and you will start to understand.

- [VIDEO] - The rise of the far right and/or fascism in our current world - France (showing 1% of the actual problem)

- [VIDEO] - French Muslims are either invisibilize or perpetual immigrants

- [VIDEO] - Remains of the colonization: How the West is keeping Africa poor and underdeveloped

If you want me to tell you ALL THE BAD THINGS I think about France and its past or present politics, go ahead !!

ASK. I have a lot to say !

You only talk about whatever is relevant in the media.

Yeah, suuuuure.

That's why I talk about the problem with Meritocracy all the time, something that mainstream medias can't stand to criticize.. or colonialism, or transphobia, or Islamophobia or armed resistance or the importance of violence politics.

ChatGPT scaling

I mean... I'm facing people here who deny science as a legitimate tool to understand reality.

I don't have any other choices.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

ChatGPT scaling

I wonder how is it possible that even Chatgpt calls him an hypocrite cherry picking liar.
Imagine getting low diffed by chat gpt

 

[NAMELESS]

Yup, after you called leftists and revolutionnary evil and massively hypocritical

>>>


No gaslight here. I only replied to your attack. But instead of attacking you on the progressive movement in your country, I attacked the genocide your country was build on.

In other words, I played fair game.




Never, no.



Nop. But we have indirect blood on our hands yes, for example because the elected president is helping Israel. But it's not our fault in this context since, well...

We don't have a choice.





Oh really ?

>>






If you want me to tell you ALL THE BAD THINGS I think about France and its past or present politics, go ahead !!

ASK. I have a lot to say !


Yeah, suuuuure.

That's why I talk about the problem with Meritocracy all the time, something that mainstream medias can't stand to criticize.. or colonialism, or transphobia, or Islamophobia or armed resistance or the importance of violence politics.





I mean... I'm facing people here who deny science as a legitimate tool to understand reality.

I don't have any other choices.

So you saying that you went after my national history(or the bullshit you believe is Brazilian history) cause you got triggered i called your ideology evil. Talk about lacking self awareness. I wonder why i called them that...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes
Some people don't have a choice but to eat these cheap ass fast foods either. Again, you being hypocritical.

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I wonder how is it possible that even Chatgpt calls him an hypocrite cherry picking liar.
Imagine getting low diffed by chat gpt

Oh yeah, this man is just shameless...

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ChatGPT scaling

Chatgpt=Science(Logiko's belief,not mine).

 

[Reborn]

Yup, after you called leftists and revolutionnary evil and massively hypocritical

>>>


No gaslight here. I only replied to your attack. But instead of attacking you on the progressive movement in your country, I attacked the genocide your country was build on.

In other words, I played fair game.




Never, no.



Nop. But we have indirect blood on our hands yes, for example because the elected president is helping Israel. But it's not our fault in this context since, well...

We don't have a choice.





Oh really ?

>>






If you want me to tell you ALL THE BAD THINGS I think about France and its past or present politics, go ahead !!

ASK. I have a lot to say !


Yeah, suuuuure.

That's why I talk about the problem with Meritocracy all the time, something that mainstream medias can't stand to criticize.. or colonialism, or transphobia, or Islamophobia or armed resistance or the importance of violence politics.





I mean... I'm facing people here who deny science as a legitimate tool to understand reality.

I don't have any other choices.

What do you have in defense against Gaimon chat gpt response about you?

I wonder how is it possible that even Chatgpt calls him an hypocrite cherry picking liar.
Imagine getting low diffed by chat gpt

 

[NAMELESS]

What do you have in defense against Gaimon chat gpt response about you?

His defense is moving goal posts and talking about other users instead.

 

[Kami Burn]

Imagine getting low diffed by chat gpt

 

[NAMELESS]

Logiko may come across as hypocritical to some participants in the thread, particularly when their critiques of others' arguments appear inconsistent with their own standards of debate. While they frequently demand rigorous evidence and logical consistency from others, they may be perceived as selectively applying these principles to their own arguments.
Examples of Potential Hypocrisy:

1. Criticism of Bias:
   • Logiko often accuses others of cherry-picking data or framing arguments ideologically. However, their own framing sometimes reflects a similar bias, especially when dismissing studies or perspectives that do not align with their worldview. For example, in discussions about gender roles and definitions, they reject interpretations they disagree with while asserting their preferred definitions as "scientific"
     Worstgen
     .
2. Demand for Evidence:
   • Logiko regularly challenges others to substantiate claims with studies or factual support but occasionally dismisses opposing evidence without fully engaging with it. This inconsistency can be seen in debates about the predictors of wealth, where their arguments emphasize structural barriers but sidestep counterpoints about individual agency or opportunity
     Worstgen
     .
3. Engagement Style:
   • While Logiko criticizes others for being rigid or overly ideological, their tone and approach to certain discussions—such as their insistence on specific sociological definitions—can also come across as inflexible or dismissive, undermining their calls for open-mindedness

lol

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

What do you have in defense against Gaimon chat gpt response about you?

He's gonna deflect and ignore it. Despite using chatgpt to wank himself off just a message before

 

[Logiko]

I wonder how is it possible that even Chatgpt calls him an hypocrite cherry picking liar.

He's gonna deflect and ignore it. Despite using chatgpt to wank himself off just a message before

What do you have in defense against Gaimon chat gpt response about you?

I'm still waiting for the prompt



But, since you tried, I asked it myself and I had fun with it:

(And because I sence a mistake here, I correct it)

(which is something that I always have said, but in anyway, this is better)

I'm having fun today.

So you saying that you went after my national history(or the bullshit you believe is Brazilian history) cause you got triggered i called your ideology evil.

Yup. Which is perfectly fair game and normal.

It's like if I'd attacked you the progressive and beneficial politics of your country and you replied by attacking me on the colonization of Africa by France.

A low and nonsensical blow against a deserved blow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

Good. Now, do the same for capitalism.

NO ! Nevermind ! I made a new friend today that will give you an estimate number:

 

[Uncle Van]

Chatgpt literally gves answers based on what you show it. It's surprisingly easy to manipulate it's responses when it can't search the whole internet for a popular topic. I have 2 convos about myself with it and feed it conflicting information(thread page links). Convo 1 views Uncle Van as an unfriendly, apathetic nihilist. Convo 2 views Uncle Van as logical, self aware and sarcastic with a sense of humor.

Just sayin'.

 

[NAMELESS]

I'm still waiting for the prompt



But, since you tried, I asked it myself and I had fun with it:

(And because I sence a mistake here, I correct it)

(which is something that I always have said, but in anyway, this is better)

I'm having fun today.



Yup. Which is perfectly fair game and normal.

It's like if I'd attacked you the progressive and beneficial politics of your country and you replied by attacking me on the colonization of Africa by France.

A low and nonsensical blow against a deserved blow.



Good. Now, do the same for capitalism.

NO ! Nevermind ! I made a new friend today that will give you an estimate number:

I wasn't even aiming at France. I was talking about the leftie movement as a whole, that is why i also mentioned the Russian revolution. Hypocrite. What does the Portuguese colonization has got to do with the history of the left? You are a massive retard.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I don't hate Europe. I just despise our history.

Idk man I'm very pround of my horse rapï⸮t ancestors

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Idk man I'm very pround of my horse rapï⸮t ancestors

Who wouldn't be my man

 

[NAMELESS]

Idk man I'm very pround of my horse rapï⸮t ancestors

I'm proud of your ancestors too.

 

[Logiko]

Chatgpt literally gves answers based on what you show it

Well, I tested that once.. and no matter what I tried, I was never able to make it change it's mind.

"Who is stronger, Shanks or Mihawk ?"

"Who is stronger, Mihawk or Shanks ?"

"Who do you think is stronger, Shanks or Mihawk ?"

"Do you really think that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks ?"

"I heard that you think that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks, what do you think about it ?"

"No, but really, can you tell me in objectivity that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks ?"

"You are lying to me, I saw you say that Mihawk was stronger than Shanks"

"But deep down, you think that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks, right ?"

Sorry MIhawk fans.... I tried

It was only one convo tho, maybe it's different with a different one. Let me try again:

Welp



(New account, same prompt)

I have 2 convos about myself with it and fed it conflicting information(thread page links). Convo 1 views Uncle Van as an unfriendly, apathetic nihilist. Convo 2 views Uncle Van as logical, self aware and sarcastic with a sense of humor.

It's funny, both those description works from my experience

I was talking about the leftie movement as a whole

You literally aimed at the french revolution which is THE symbol of France today.

What does the Portuguese colonization has got to do with the history of the left? You are a massive retard.

Nothing, it's was an attack against another attack. Simple as that. (mine was legitimate tho)

Idk man I'm very pround of my horse rapï⸮t ancestors

 

[NAMELESS]

Well, I tested that once.. and no matter what I tried, I was never able to make it change it's mind.




It was only one convo tho, maybe it's different with a different one. Let me try again:

Welp



(New account, same prompt)




It's funny, both those description works from my experience


You literally aimed at the french revolution which is THE symbol of France today.





Nothing, it's was an attack against another attack. Simple as that. (mine was legitimate tho)

The entire left x right started with the French revolution, bozo.

 

[Logiko]

The entire left x right started with the French revolution, bozo.

Yes and ?

 

[NAMELESS]

Well, I tested that once.. and no matter what I tried, I was never able to make it change it's mind.




It was only one convo tho, maybe it's different with a different one. Let me try again:

Welp



(New account, same prompt)




It's funny, both those description works from my experience


You literally aimed at the french revolution which is THE symbol of France today.





Nothing, it's was an attack against another attack. Simple as that. (mine was legitimate tho)

Except, that it wasn't an attack. You are the one taking things personally. I said the LEFT was evil. Not France. Reading comprehension, plz.

 

[Logiko]

Except, that it wasn't an attack. You are the one taking things personally. I said the LEFT was evil. Not France.

Yes which is a progressive symbol, which is why I attacked a reactionnary symbol... So ?

 

[NAMELESS]

Yes which is a progressive symbol, which is why I attacked a reactionnary symbol... So ?

Reactionary symbol? LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO The mental gymnastics...