Powers & Abilities Crocodile should have conquerors if Mihawk does

#62
Luffy bounced back. Crocodile to this day freaks out at buggy even suggesting that he would look for the one piece
Luffy bounced back because he had Jinbe grab him by the hand and show him the exit of self doubt.


Crocodile healed back after Whitebeard died..

Daz even tells you btw what the common belief of the OP world about these wounds really is by playing on Crocodile's trauma .
 
#63
You haven't said anything new.



All the image shows is it's called CoC, and you can't train to have it.



It's still only possessed by in fact, LESS than 1 in a million, it's something that you're born with, not something you develop/train.

You can't train something you don't have, and you can't have something you're not born with.

There's no reason for Crocodile to have CoC just because Mihawk has it. It's simply Oda's choice whether he wants Crocodile to have it. If he has it, then he means he acquired it from genetics.

CoC has nothing to do with attitude or character, that's what you seem to not understand.
 
#67


There's really nothing so complicated about it. When Luffy used it, Garp said he was BORN with it.



Ivankov said ITS in his blood.

Being born with something and the thing being related to blood is pretty much saying it's genetic. It's not something you choose to have. You either have it or you don't.

Crocodile having it will mean he was born with it, otherwise, he simply doesn't have it. It has nothing with being arrogant.

Arrogance is something that can be developed, yet Rayleigh has said you can't train to acquire it meaning... you can't influence possessing King's Haki, you can't Arrogance your way into it or try to be a edge-lord your way into acquiring Conqueror's, you either are born with it or not.
That's all I'll be saying.
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It's not like COC is really rare and special anymore anyway.
It is rare, we're just seeing all the people that have it.

There are billions of people in One Piece.

The Grand Line and new world is where all the strongest people in the world go to, so it's not really rare to see people with it only because we're at a location where there are lots of powerful people.

It's like going to a Zoo and seeing a Tiger (endangered species), there are only 5 thousand of them remaining. Just because you go to a Zoo and see 100 tigers doesn't mean Tiger's aren't rare. You're just in a location where they're concentrated.

The Grand Line and New World are places where CoC users are like Tigers, they're rare, but they're all concentrated in 1 area of the world.

And they're really only a handful of CoC users in the series, there are 22 known king haki users out of a population easily exceeding even a population of 8 billion given the OP world is larger than the the earth.
Out of potentially maybe even 20 billion people, only 22 known CoC users? That's not a lot. We just happen to be where all of them gather.

Out of those 22, only what... like Luffy, Shanks, Kaido have been seen as people able to actually weaponise King's Haki? It's one thing to have King's Haki, it's another thing to be able to control it as a weapon in battle.
 
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#68


There's really nothing so complicated about it. When Luffy used it, Garp said he was BORN with it.



Ivankov said ITS in his blood.

Being born with something and the thing being related to blood is pretty much saying it's genetic. It's not something you choose to have. You either have it or you don't.

Crocodile having it will mean he was born with it, otherwise, he simply doesn't have it. It has nothing with being arrogant.

Arrogance is something that can be developed, yet Rayleigh has said you can't train to acquire it meaning... you can't influence possessing King's Haki, you can't Arrogance your way into it or try to be a edge-lord your way into acquiring Conqueror's, you either are born with it or not.
That's all I'll be saying.
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It is rare, we're just seeing all the people that have it.

There are billions of people in One Piece.

The Grand Line and new world is where all the strongest people in the world go to, so it's not really rare to see people with it only because we're at a location where there are lots of powerful people.

It's like going to a Zoo and seeing a Tiger (endangered species), there are only 5 thousand of them remaining. Just because you go to a Zoo and see 100 tigers doesn't mean Tiger's aren't rare. You're just in a location where they're concentrated.

The Grand Line and New World are places where CoC users are like Tigers, they're rare, but they're all concentrated in 1 area of the world.

And they're really only a handful of CoC users in the series, there are 22 known king haki users out of a population easily exceeding even a population of 8 billion given the OP world is larger than the the earth.
Out of potentially maybe even 20 billion people, only 22 known CoC users? That's not a lot. We just happen to be where all of them gather.
Name me all the CoC parents of
Bigmam
Whitebeard
Kaidou
Blackbeard
Zoro
Roger
Rayleigh
Doffy

Garp and Iva Dialouge could easily be linked with Will of D. Lineage , which signifies their Ambition of going against WG (Literally enemy of Gods (Celestial dragon)). And how much they are willing to really push it.
 
#69
So if you fuckin open your eyes and read next time.
Logia users rely on their fruit way more than Haki. They are arrogant and Overconfidant , this goes with literally every Logia user so far.
Name me a single Haki feat which is top tier level coming from logia users.

- " Not everyone needs to be able to infuse conquerors in their attack "

For CoC , yes it is important.
Base CoC is useless. What strength did it gave to luffy till rooftop?

Only advanced Conqueror makes the real difference.

Base CoC is judt crowd control which any scary character can do.
Ace

It is genetically, passed, that's why it's 1 in a million.

It's like genes for certain traits, or intelligence, having an IQ of 150+ might be 1 in 10 million people.

Things you can't choose are genetics. You don't choose to have Conqueror's Haki, otherwise you would be able to train it. That's why Garp said he was born with it and Ivankov said the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

You don't choose to be tall, you don't choose to have the height and athleticism to play basketball or NBA. You don't choose to be born without empathy, you don't choose to be a psychopath or a cannibal. You're just born that way.

This idea that if you're proud and ambitious = Conqueror's Haki falls flat when you realise there are 1,000s of kings and leaders in One Piece who do not have it.
It's not a power that one develops from having a certain personality, it's something you're either born with.

If being arrogant meant you'll have Conqueror's Haki, then Luffy or Katakuri wouldn't have it. Luffy doesn't even want to be a leader which people think is a prerequisite, he wouldn't have it.

Conqueror's Haki has nothing to do with personality, it's something developed by 1 in a million people.

Furthermore, is it 1 in a million to have Crocodile's arrogance and narcissism? No, there are millions of people with similar personality traits. It's genetic.



That's like saying Big Mom's body wasn't inherited.
Genes mutate, some genes are hidden from 100s of years ago and appear many generations later. Her parents are tiny while she's gigantic... doesn't mean she can't be born a giant. Genes can mutate which is why siblings can have 99% similar genetic code, and still be different. You don't just look at someone and their parent, see there's a difference and then determine they're not related. Genes are not things you really determine from eye-sight... could have 2 scientist couples have a kid who grows up with learning difficulties or disabled... does that mean they're not related genetically?

It's like saying White people don't have genes to be Dark skinned.... even though everyone originates from Africa.
Genes can stay hidden and appear many generations later.
So, the idea that because Big Mom's parents didn't have it... doesn't mean she didn't inherit it. There are millions of genes in the body that just don't show up, and sometimes they just happen to become dominant and this is why there's variation between people regardless of relation.

There are people who have short parents and short grand-parents who end up extremely tall, why? Genes. That's just how science works.
Being related to a conqueror while it does increase your chances of also being one doesn’t make you one. Not being related to one doesn’t mean you can’t have it either

I do agree that there aren’t real rules as to who is or isn’t a conqueror in general tho
You can be extremely ambitious and/or strong and not have it
 
#75
So if ace ate the flame fruit first he wouldn’t be able to awaken his conquerors?…
:sanmoji:

That’s like saying mythical zoans can’t awaken because they’re mythical
Jesus christ.
You really lack reading skills.

Logia users are over confident and rely way too much on their Logia powers instead of Haki.

Give Logia fruit to ace in childhood only and he never goes through that shit and never awakens CoC lol.
 
#76
Jesus christ.
You really lack reading skills.

Logia users are over confident and rely way too much on their Logia powers instead of Haki.

Give Logia fruit to ace in childhood only and he never goes through that shit and never awakens CoC lol.
Ironic as hell

Big mom kaido Whitebeard are natural born freaks that each ate powerful fruits all have conquerors
Luffy has a mythical god fruit and is a conqueror
Ace ate a logia lol

But somehow if someone eats the swamp fruit it becomes impossible for them to have conquerors

You slow in real life too or is it just supposed to be a funny act online
 
#77
Ironic as hell

Big mom kaido Whitebeard are natural born freaks that each ate powerful fruits all have conquerors
Luffy has a mythical god fruit and is a conqueror
Ace ate a logia lol

But somehow if someone eats the swamp fruit it becomes impossible for them to have conquerors

You slow in real life too or is it just supposed to be a funny act online
Jesus Christ!

All of them you have mentioned are Paramacia or zoan.

Yo who even let this mf make thread without checking his Ability to read and write?
 
#79

If mihawk has conquerors so should crocodile

Same way only a conqueror should only be able to become subordinate to a better conqueror it only makes sense for a conqueror to only consider another conqueror on equal

Like kaido was allied with Doflamingo Caesar and orochi but even when working with them during to common interests he never viewed any of them as his equals. Doffy never viewed Caesar as his equal either


Even with luffy and his alliances while luffy doesn’t outright view anyone as lesser than him it’s clear that they view him as more. With Luffy pretty much doing whatever he wants. He even refused law ending the alliance because he didn’t want it to


Crocodile and mihawk outright view each other as equals and have genuine respect for each other. With them not being able to work together any other way. Both having to much pride to be seen as below the other


Anyone a conqueror views as an equal to them imo should also probably be a conqueror
If mihawk has conquerors so should crocodile Same

Same for the admirals. Can’t imagine a conqueror working under a non conqueror
As for buggy he’s Buggy
Ok, but no COC coating for Croc.
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So if ace ate the flame fruit first he wouldn’t be able to awaken his conquerors?…
:sanmoji:

That’s like saying mythical zoans can’t awaken because they’re mythical
To be honest, he would probably toast Bluejam and his gang.
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Rayleigh doesn't say anything in the line of "Born with"
He explicitly says those who have made a name for themselves out there in the sea. And exceptionally ambitious.
I remember he said both in the anime and manga that you need to be born with it.
 
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#80
Ok, but no COC coating for Croc.
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To be honest, he would probably toast Bluejam and his gang.
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I remember he said both in the anime and manga that you need to be born with it.
If he gets conquerors I personally don’t really care if he can infuse it or not. Like I don’t think he will but we don’t really know what it takes
 
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