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Guessing this is aimed at me lol.
Selective video editing again. Wonder how many people they asked wonder how many people had differing opinions that didn't quite make the cut.
I live in the UK and Reform who he's backing isn't a far right party while the current Labour in government is a far left communist party I'd happily swap them out. It's well known in the UK Labour and the Conservative government did cover up Islamic rape gangs in Northern towns so your source of information is completely wrong.
Selective video editing again. Wonder how many people they asked wonder how many people had differing opinions that didn't quite make the cut.
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I live in the UK and Reform who he's backing isn't a far right party while the current Labour in government is a far left communist party I'd happily swap them out. It's well known in the UK Labour and the Conservative government did cover up Islamic rape gangs in Northern towns so your source of information is completely wrong.
If you go by the arm extension, angle then on face value it appears to be Nazi Salute.
However, it's more about the context and intent.
Quite sure if anyone from the left or liberal would have done it (we know leaders did it) then no one would have bat an eye. It would be a simple waving to people
Since Musk had some history with right wing so the same salute even if the intent of Musk was to give his heart out became a Nazi salute simply due to his association with the right wing.
Tbh, bad choice from Musk and equally bad from left to who these days are on spree to call people transphobic, Nazi,Fascists, Trump Enablers just because they express different opinions which leans right. One of the reason why left is even losing popularity.
However, it's more about the context and intent.
Quite sure if anyone from the left or liberal would have done it (we know leaders did it) then no one would have bat an eye. It would be a simple waving to people
Since Musk had some history with right wing so the same salute even if the intent of Musk was to give his heart out became a Nazi salute simply due to his association with the right wing.
Tbh, bad choice from Musk and equally bad from left to who these days are on spree to call people transphobic, Nazi,Fascists, Trump Enablers just because they express different opinions which leans right. One of the reason why left is even losing popularity.
Musk is a skinwalker, he was “progressive” a few years ago and even dated grimes who leans socialist
now he’s a right winger because it’s the socially cool thing to be online. I don’t doubt he did the Nazi salute becasue he’s been having around 4chan and Twitter too much and thinks being racist is fun
now he’s a right winger because it’s the socially cool thing to be online. I don’t doubt he did the Nazi salute becasue he’s been having around 4chan and Twitter too much and thinks being racist is fun
The labour party is literally a center left movement, it's as far left as Trump is a trans ally.
If those guyz are communist, I'm a revolutionnary.
ffs
Yes, I know, that was the point.
"Jewish can't become Nazis" > Zionist literally called for the eradication of arabs, have perpetuated a genocide and dehumanized all palestinians Musk literally supported a Nazi friendly party. But ok. "you" know lmao
It's crazy how you are always in the defense of the worst. You never seize to not surprise me.
If those guyz are communist, I'm a revolutionnary.
ffs
Yes, I know, that was the point.
"Jewish can't become Nazis" > Zionist literally called for the eradication of arabs, have perpetuated a genocide and dehumanized all palestinians Musk literally supported a Nazi friendly party. But ok. "you" know lmao
It's crazy how you are always in the defense of the worst. You never seize to not surprise me.
that was afros point you werent getting though?
hating jews is an integral part of nazism, if you didnt notice.
i thought you understand that not all fascists are nazis?
also, im leaning more towards elons gesture being a nazi salute. just among all the "points" people have raised against that idea, that picture i quoted above is the only one i think is somewhat legit.
your brainrot is showing
hating jews is an integral part of nazism, if you didnt notice.
i thought you understand that not all fascists are nazis?
also, im leaning more towards elons gesture being a nazi salute. just among all the "points" people have raised against that idea, that picture i quoted above is the only one i think is somewhat legit.
your brainrot is showing
I live in the UK people can't wait to get Labour out they are not centre left at all. There far left taxation is killing the growth of the country. Their curbing of free speech laws and hypocrisy over cultural issues is overwhelming. It's why Reform and the Conservatives are polling ahead of them and the current leader is the most unpopular prime minister ever.
Yep Carrot4Nakama you are in fact that far left. Use this as a self realisation.
No I'm not in defence of the worst it's your belief in your morally superiority that makes you blind to everything. Rather than go perhaps I'm wrong on this matter you double down because you always go into the situation that you're right and everyone is wrong it's why you were mocked in the nakama thread.
You don't give anyone who is on the opposite side of your political belief the benefit of the doubt as seen with Elon and I'd argue you act fascist in your rhetoric and if it was down to you you'd put people who disagree with you in prison for doing so.
Yep Carrot4Nakama you are in fact that far left. Use this as a self realisation.
No I'm not in defence of the worst it's your belief in your morally superiority that makes you blind to everything. Rather than go perhaps I'm wrong on this matter you double down because you always go into the situation that you're right and everyone is wrong it's why you were mocked in the nakama thread.
You don't give anyone who is on the opposite side of your political belief the benefit of the doubt as seen with Elon and I'd argue you act fascist in your rhetoric and if it was down to you you'd put people who disagree with you in prison for doing so.
I got it, it was a bad one. I know the difference, I'm talking not just about fascism but nazism as well.
Indeed.
In the case of jews, we are not only talking about fascism but ETHNOCENTRISM. When I say that zionist are Nazi, I meant are using the nazi practice (ethnocentrism) to perpetuate a system of domination. For zionists, the problems are the arabs while for white supremacist, the problems are both arabs AND jews.
Zionists can accomodate with white supremacists to perpetuate their imperialism, but they will eventually understand how bad it is to befriend neonazis sympathizers.
Lmao. You really don't know what real leftism is, do ya ?
Why would I be wrong when my argumentation is supported by sciences, researchers and renowned antifascists activists ?
You are the one bringing a testimony against the word of a scholar. I've nothing to question here. I'm wrong sometimes yes. But contrary to you, I can see when it's the case and I'm not afraid to say it.
Prove me that Musk does not have ties with the far right, prove to me the information of him supporting the AFD (a neonazi friendly party) is wrong, prove me that the information of him supporting fascistic rethoric and unbanning neonazi from twitter is wrong... and maybe I will start to listen to you.
Behaviors do not appear in a vaccum, they are the result of a sociology. And in the case of Musk this gesture is but the confirmation of all the hypothesis we had about him looking at his entire history with far right activism. Again, the conclusion that Musk is willingly appealing to neonazi here is not based on his gesture only, but on his entire sociology.
I can see that, you can't. It's not my job to question myself here, but yours.
Indeed.
In the case of jews, we are not only talking about fascism but ETHNOCENTRISM. When I say that zionist are Nazi, I meant are using the nazi practice (ethnocentrism) to perpetuate a system of domination. For zionists, the problems are the arabs while for white supremacist, the problems are both arabs AND jews.
Zionists can accomodate with white supremacists to perpetuate their imperialism, but they will eventually understand how bad it is to befriend neonazis sympathizers.
Lmao. You really don't know what real leftism is, do ya ?
Why would I be wrong when my argumentation is supported by sciences, researchers and renowned antifascists activists ?
You are the one bringing a testimony against the word of a scholar. I've nothing to question here. I'm wrong sometimes yes. But contrary to you, I can see when it's the case and I'm not afraid to say it.
Prove me that Musk does not have ties with the far right, prove to me the information of him supporting the AFD (a neonazi friendly party) is wrong, prove me that the information of him supporting fascistic rethoric and unbanning neonazi from twitter is wrong... and maybe I will start to listen to you.
Behaviors do not appear in a vaccum, they are the result of a sociology. And in the case of Musk this gesture is but the confirmation of all the hypothesis we had about him looking at his entire history with far right activism. Again, the conclusion that Musk is willingly appealing to neonazi here is not based on his gesture only, but on his entire sociology.
I can see that, you can't. It's not my job to question myself here, but yours.
I don't have to prove to you someone doesn't have ties to a far right organisation that's not how it works and it's exactly the whole point of why you think the way you do.
People have to be proven to be guilty before they are guilty. You would have it the other way around which shows your fascist idealogy.
Prove you didn't commit the crime and you won't go to jail rather than prove you committed the crime then you will go to jail. Simple concept.
You can never admit you're wrong Carrot4Nakama during the next nakama thread you showed that. I and many others here seen that you have precedent for this behaviour and when proven wrong you don't question your own idealogy you blame and use demonising insults to try take a morally superior ground but everyone can see through you.
A testimony of a WW2 holocaust survivor who actually survived a fascist dictator isn't good enough for you yet those who have never lived under fascism is. Speaks volumes of you to be fair.
People have to be proven to be guilty before they are guilty. You would have it the other way around which shows your fascist idealogy.
Prove you didn't commit the crime and you won't go to jail rather than prove you committed the crime then you will go to jail. Simple concept.
You can never admit you're wrong Carrot4Nakama during the next nakama thread you showed that. I and many others here seen that you have precedent for this behaviour and when proven wrong you don't question your own idealogy you blame and use demonising insults to try take a morally superior ground but everyone can see through you.
A testimony of a WW2 holocaust survivor who actually survived a fascist dictator isn't good enough for you yet those who have never lived under fascism is. Speaks volumes of you to be fair.
