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Yup I agree.
Logiko do make sense sometimes. His arguments are structured and have logical basis in many instances.
He do poses critical thinking. He is soft spoken as well (ignoring his labelling)
But, as you said, it's his approach.
I think he has emotional defensive side - he has tendency to takes arguments personally - a different opinion as an attack to his knowledge and his hard core beliefs.
And, he ends up labelling people or telling them they know nothing and thus come across as arrogant/authoritarian.
Logiko do make sense sometimes. His arguments are structured and have logical basis in many instances.
He do poses critical thinking. He is soft spoken as well (ignoring his labelling)
But, as you said, it's his approach.
I think he has emotional defensive side - he has tendency to takes arguments personally - a different opinion as an attack to his knowledge and his hard core beliefs.
And, he ends up labelling people or telling them they know nothing and thus come across as arrogant/authoritarian.
No. It was not personnal. It's was both a defensive tactic and a political strategy. I explained that in the thread I just made.
I never took anything really personnaly here, even when multiple people were insulting my mental health. I went on this forum with a glass screen in front of me to protect myself. I knew from the start (even before joining) how the people would react to the behavior as it is how I have always faced hatred and toxicity on the internet.
I only thought that I would be able to reason One Piece fans with logic. But I was wrong. So this tactic is a bit useless now. And I know for a fact that gentleness will not help. I tried that tactic many time in different places. It's useless.
The reality is that our confirmation bias and the halo effect are b*tches.
If you know someone good, they will have a lot more chances to convince you. On the other hand, if someone you don't know or have no reason to respect starts to say something you disagree with, you will start to apply your disagreement on the nature of the person and confuse the two.
This means that unless you are very nice, it's almost impossible for someone to convince an unknown individual. Now, the problem here arrives when we talk about oppressions...
In the context of someone enabling an act of oppression, someone like me who fight them daily can't simply be respectful of the opinion of the other person. It's not fair to ask me that, I can't simply risk the danger of the words of someone hurting another.
I know full well that words can kill.
This means that if someone starts to have an oppressive behavior or enables one, I will be forced to be an opposing force.
This also means that if I follow my motto and I want to stay here, I'm will be doomned to be a force of opposition even conflictual against anyone who says something harmfull.
And since I consider the fanbase of One Piece politically, I also know how harmfull it can be for the fanbase to turn hatefull. So this means that I can't even just talk about One Piece here. I will be forced to fight negativity in every corner.
I thought I could do that. In fact I thought that I could do that in many places, not just this forum. This was a simply political strategy and a evidence created by my political belief system.
But no more.
Now, I have accepted the impossibility of not being able to force change, at least not by me. My opinions are too radicals for the majority of people here, they will never be able to accept them. And I will never be able to repress myself if I see someone going full berserk conservative and toxic here.
So, I need to find a way to escape this forum and my political methodology and find something more constructive to do with it. Closer to my political side.
Hence why I'm leaving. Not because I'm mad or frustrated, but because It's useless and I'm fighting the wind. This has become meaningless and is therefore starting to exhaust me greatly.
I'll let a chance to more positive people to make a change. In the hope that this forum and our fanbase starts to look for a new path.
I never took anything really personnaly here, even when multiple people were insulting my mental health. I went on this forum with a glass screen in front of me to protect myself. I knew from the start (even before joining) how the people would react to the behavior as it is how I have always faced hatred and toxicity on the internet.
I only thought that I would be able to reason One Piece fans with logic. But I was wrong. So this tactic is a bit useless now. And I know for a fact that gentleness will not help. I tried that tactic many time in different places. It's useless.
The reality is that our confirmation bias and the halo effect are b*tches.
If you know someone good, they will have a lot more chances to convince you. On the other hand, if someone you don't know or have no reason to respect starts to say something you disagree with, you will start to apply your disagreement on the nature of the person and confuse the two.
This means that unless you are very nice, it's almost impossible for someone to convince an unknown individual. Now, the problem here arrives when we talk about oppressions...
In the context of someone enabling an act of oppression, someone like me who fight them daily can't simply be respectful of the opinion of the other person. It's not fair to ask me that, I can't simply risk the danger of the words of someone hurting another.
I know full well that words can kill.
This means that if someone starts to have an oppressive behavior or enables one, I will be forced to be an opposing force.
This also means that if I follow my motto and I want to stay here, I'm will be doomned to be a force of opposition even conflictual against anyone who says something harmfull.
And since I consider the fanbase of One Piece politically, I also know how harmfull it can be for the fanbase to turn hatefull. So this means that I can't even just talk about One Piece here. I will be forced to fight negativity in every corner.
I thought I could do that. In fact I thought that I could do that in many places, not just this forum. This was a simply political strategy and a evidence created by my political belief system.
But no more.
Now, I have accepted the impossibility of not being able to force change, at least not by me. My opinions are too radicals for the majority of people here, they will never be able to accept them. And I will never be able to repress myself if I see someone going full berserk conservative and toxic here.
So, I need to find a way to escape this forum and my political methodology and find something more constructive to do with it. Closer to my political side.
Hence why I'm leaving. Not because I'm mad or frustrated, but because It's useless and I'm fighting the wind. This has become meaningless and is therefore starting to exhaust me greatly.
I'll let a chance to more positive people to make a change. In the hope that this forum and our fanbase starts to look for a new path.
https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1882842972150288732
and...a president that keeps his promise to his voter base (or just the people that voted for Trump) has their loyalty solidified.
Trump is going to be seen as either the God Emperor or Bowser to a whole lot of people, depending on their political stance.
and...a president that keeps his promise to his voter base (or just the people that voted for Trump) has their loyalty solidified.
Trump is going to be seen as either the God Emperor or Bowser to a whole lot of people, depending on their political stance.
One thing which sets Trump apart from majority of the leaders is he follows up on what he says during election campaigns.
Most politicians make promises in manifesto and speeches but hardly live upto them in same letter and spirit once in power.
Trump - he lives upto it as much as it's in control. Releasing JFK and MLK files are case in point.
And, I think this is why his support base doesn't diminish. He does what he said before election. So, if majority elects him and he does exactly what he promised - then it simply implies majority wanted it
Most politicians make promises in manifesto and speeches but hardly live upto them in same letter and spirit once in power.
Trump - he lives upto it as much as it's in control. Releasing JFK and MLK files are case in point.
And, I think this is why his support base doesn't diminish. He does what he said before election. So, if majority elects him and he does exactly what he promised - then it simply implies majority wanted it
I played this game called Democracy 4, where you effectively become president of a country.
1 way to play is to become dictator, and the easiest way to do this is to cause hyperinflation and exercise emergency powers.
Trump has already committed to several inflation-inducing policies… namely; excessive tariffs, eliminating a massive portion of field workers, trying to force interest rates downwards, etc
Conceptually, Trump could cause hyperinflation, claim economic state of emergency, use SCOTUS to expand powers and then we may be fucked.
1 way to play is to become dictator, and the easiest way to do this is to cause hyperinflation and exercise emergency powers.
Trump has already committed to several inflation-inducing policies… namely; excessive tariffs, eliminating a massive portion of field workers, trying to force interest rates downwards, etc
Conceptually, Trump could cause hyperinflation, claim economic state of emergency, use SCOTUS to expand powers and then we may be fucked.
The issue is that the US constitution simply doesn’t allow for a person to become a dictator.
Trump can’t run a third term
Trump can’t dissolve congress
Trump did give himself a conservative majority in the courts, but that doesn’t mean those people are actually loyal to him. They have lifetime appointments and have no reason to sacrifice their legacy for Trump.
Trump can at worst push the country slightly closer to totalitarianism, which is bad. But he’s not going to be the one who breaks it.
Trump can’t run a third term
Trump can’t dissolve congress
Trump did give himself a conservative majority in the courts, but that doesn’t mean those people are actually loyal to him. They have lifetime appointments and have no reason to sacrifice their legacy for Trump.
Trump can at worst push the country slightly closer to totalitarianism, which is bad. But he’s not going to be the one who breaks it.
It depends honestly he is inclining towards politics he stopped looking after Tesla /Spacex long time ago he has capable people looking after it .
Elon wants to be like Peter Thiel /Rupert Murdoch working from behind the scenes and help reshaping next generation politicians . He handpicked JD Vance for Trump because of Ohio votes .
Elon wants to be like Peter Thiel /Rupert Murdoch working from behind the scenes and help reshaping next generation politicians . He handpicked JD Vance for Trump because of Ohio votes .
This election was about the US choosing two options:
1. Be honest about our problems and actually try to fix them
2. Blame our problems on minorities rather than the people with money/power
I used to think ignorance was the problem, but I was wrong.
The problem is arrogance.
They are too arrogant to admit they're wrong. They hate the concept of being incorrect more than the reality of it. They'd rather change the definitions of words than admit they're wrong.
Their focus is so based on making the "other guys" look bad and "owning the libs" that they're sucking up to a rich man who supports apartheid politics doing a Nazi salute.
These people honestly believe they're "superior", and are willing to suck up to any con-artist who will tell them what they want to hear, same way the Germans did with the Aryan BS.
1. Be honest about our problems and actually try to fix them
2. Blame our problems on minorities rather than the people with money/power
I used to think ignorance was the problem, but I was wrong.
The problem is arrogance.
They are too arrogant to admit they're wrong. They hate the concept of being incorrect more than the reality of it. They'd rather change the definitions of words than admit they're wrong.
Their focus is so based on making the "other guys" look bad and "owning the libs" that they're sucking up to a rich man who supports apartheid politics doing a Nazi salute.
These people honestly believe they're "superior", and are willing to suck up to any con-artist who will tell them what they want to hear, same way the Germans did with the Aryan BS.
Or have the pedos who got caught involved in these crimes executed instead?
Why should the baby who was just born in to life from the mother's womb be blamed for the actions of the adults?
Edit: As messed up as this next comment may sound, the practice might need to be left alone unless US or some neighbouring country in the Middle East has plans on colonizing Afghanistan in its entirety and enact laws that forcibly crack down on this practice.
Why should the baby who was just born in to life from the mother's womb be blamed for the actions of the adults?
Edit: As messed up as this next comment may sound, the practice might need to be left alone unless US or some neighbouring country in the Middle East has plans on colonizing Afghanistan in its entirety and enact laws that forcibly crack down on this practice.