How strong is EOS Sanji?


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B-b-but where is the evidence for Gaban being relative to Roger?
Oda: “Equal to Roger and Rayleigh”
B-b-but where is it?
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This response means nothing.

Did Oda say Sanji is anywhere near Luffy in strength?

Did Oda say Gaban is equal to Roger in strength?

No, he didn't, in fact Sanji's name wasn't even mentioned this chapter. It's a matter of reading comprehension.
Yeah reading comprehension; which you lack?
 
it must be truely hard as sanji hater if you reading a manga written by oda
:josad: You need to cope for 10 years now that sanji is clearly his favorite
No one needs to cope. Did you erase the years of sanji being cooked that all of you got traumatised with and ptsd over?, just for oda to finally state the obvious years later :gokulaugh:You'd think the "Year of Sanji" would've got the message across but it only made things worse.

"Minister of love" When Oda has to do something THAT obvious it's honestly pretty pathetic that sanjitards need that level of assuring. ":risitasad: SEE SCOPPER IS THE MINISTER OF LOVE AND IS A DIRECT PARALLEL TO SANJI, NOT JINBEI!!!!, AND HE'S GONNA BE FEARED BY THE WG AND IS IN THE MONSTER TRIO :risitasad: "

:okay: He's still a cyborg carried by his bloodline
 
No one needs to cope. Did you erase the years of sanji being cooked that all of you got traumatised with and ptsd over?, just for oda to finally state the obvious years later :gokulaugh:You'd think the "Year of Sanji" would've got the message across but it only made things worse.

"Minister of love" When Oda has to do something THAT obvious it's honestly pretty pathetic that sanjitards need that level of assuring. ":risitasad: SEE SCOPPER IS THE MINISTER OF LOVE AND IS A DIRECT PARALLEL TO SANJI, NOT JINBEI!!!!, AND HE'S GONNA BE FEARED BY THE WG AND IS IN THE MONSTER TRIO :risitasad: "

:okay: He's still a cyborg carried by his bloodline
At least it’s his bloodline and not magic swords carrying another’s haki?
 
This response means nothing.

Did Oda say Sanji is anywhere near Luffy in strength?

Did Oda say Gaban is equal to Roger in strength?

No, he didn't, in fact Sanji's name wasn't even mentioned this chapter. It's a matter of reading comprehension.
I don't blame you, going from Gaban is an irrelevant nobody/Sanji won't amount to much power wise, to now having to cope with the fact that Gaban is being placed in the same bracket as Ray and Roger, which you and I both know is an obvious mirror to the monster trio dynamic. This is a lot to deal with, but you'll manage.
 
In my opinion Sanji defeated a yc2 without too much difficulty so he was yc1 in Wano and he trained between Wano and Egghead and Egghead and Elbaf so now he is yc+ like Yamato
The thing is, when we see a character defeat a YC2 or a YC1, we don't immediatelly assume he can also defeat a certified stronger peer, especially when the compared feats aren't in his favor.

It's obvious that he will continue to grow and he did get something good in Egghead, but if this wasn't Sanji being carried by the monster trio, if this was just Luffy having defeated Queen with a power up, people would be looking forward to his fight with King and would be excited to see him surpass him as well.

Sanji's placement near Zoro and Luffy is 99% carried by "maintaining status quo". And now that we got the Gaban statement, that's happening even harder. The 1% is the overblown hype his speed got among his fanboys.

Sanji can grow to be on Luffy and on Zoro's side again, but @HeroesNZ isn't wrong since he's talking about the later comparable feats.

Maybe Sanji has already been slingshotted by the status quo up there and everyone who hypes him will act smart, but if he has, he simply hasn't shown it yet.
 
I don't blame you, going from Gaban is an irrelevant nobody/Sanji won't amount to much power wise, to now having to cope with the fact that Gaban is being placed in the same bracket as Ray and Roger, which you and I both know is an obvious mirror to the monster trio dynamic. This is a lot to deal with, but you'll manage.
I don’t know Kiwis aren’t the brightest bunch in the fruitbowl?!

Dude just glossed over the fact that Oda said Roger Rayleigh and Gaban are all relative. And I use relative, humbly because what he says verbatim is even more deafening.
 
Don't let all of this distract you from the fact that mother truckers saw this panel back then ("I wouldn't want my two best men to get hurt") and really thought: "Yeah, Gaban has to be an irrelevant fodder, no such thing as Left Hand of the Pirate King"
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Thing is he said "i dont wany you guys to get hurt" thats tcb with best men
 
@kekaro @Kurozumi Wiwi @Light D Fist.
Wano is going to be the year of Zoro
Zoro will lead the samurais
Zoro will get some major character focus and character development during the Wano arc
Zoro will kill Kaido
Zoro and Grim Reaper subplot will be very important
Zoro will fight and defeat Kizaru at Egghead
Zoro will fight and defeat Nusjuro at Egghead
Gaban will never be as strong or as important as Rayleigh
:AlexChills:
 
No one needs to cope. Did you erase the years of sanji being cooked that all of you got traumatised with and ptsd over?, just for oda to finally state the obvious years later :gokulaugh:You'd think the "Year of Sanji" would've got the message across but it only made things worse.

"Minister of love" When Oda has to do something THAT obvious it's honestly pretty pathetic that sanjitards need that level of assuring. ":risitasad: SEE SCOPPER IS THE MINISTER OF LOVE AND IS A DIRECT PARALLEL TO SANJI, NOT JINBEI!!!!, AND HE'S GONNA BE FEARED BY THE WG AND IS IN THE MONSTER TRIO :risitasad: "

:okay: He's still a cyborg carried by his bloodline
 
The thing is, when we see a character defeat a YC2 or a YC1, we don't immediatelly assume he can also defeat a certified stronger peer, especially when the compared feats aren't in his favor.

It's obvious that he will continue to grow and he did get something good in Egghead, but if this wasn't Sanji being carried by the monster trio, if this was just Luffy having defeated Queen with a power up, people would be looking forward to his fight with King and would be excited to see him surpass him as well.

Sanji's placement near Zoro and Luffy is 99% carried by "maintaining status quo". And now that we got the Gaban statement, that's happening even harder. The 1% is the overblown hype his speed got among his fanboys.

Sanji can grow to be on Luffy and on Zoro's side again, but @HeroesNZ isn't wrong since he's talking about the later comparable feats.

Maybe Sanji has already been slingshotted by the status quo up there and everyone who hypes him will act smart, but if he has, he simply hasn't shown it yet.
Zoro and Lucci were both struggling with the seraphim even though they had back up in Kaku and Luffy respectively. Sanji was no diffing the same seraphims with his arms folded - like nothing - by himself. I guess feats do matter hey, but only when they match my agenda.
 
@kekaro @Kurozumi Wiwi @Light D Fist.
Wano is going to be the year of Zoro
Zoro will lead the samurais
Zoro will get some major character focus and character development during the Wano arc
Zoro will kill Kaido
Zoro and Grim Reaper subplot will be very important
Zoro will fight and defeat Kizaru at Egghead
Zoro will fight and defeat Nusjuro at Egghead
Gaban will never be as strong or as important as Rayleigh
:AlexChills:
na oda did done zoro dirty in wano i aint capping that to the couple delusional zoro fans
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I bet Sanji's VA is holding Oda at gun point
The wife fucking finally payed off
 
The fact that Oda can say out right “Roger Rayleigh and Gaban are on the same level” and youre still acting like Oda in any way portrayed WCI Luffy ~ Sanji, is actually dumb as fuck
Where did Oda say this, can you show me the manga page? Or are you quoting some leaker's brief summary with zero context clues?

What's dumb as fuck is seeing Luffy go head to head with the likes of Kaido and the Gorosei and thinking he's anywhere near the same level as Sanji, who after powering up was still getting ragdolled by Queen lmfao.

Sanji's absolute strongest attack IJ HM was revealed next to a strong right from Franky lmfaoo, the streets will never forget 😂 The thing you people fail to realise is no matter what happens with Gaban, Sanji still gets utterly babyshaked by Luffy until dude gets more feats or a power-up. Gaban may help you with EoS Sanji arguments, but he is not your champion rn lmfaoo. Y'all gotta focus on the fight at home.

Luffy has advanced CoO, advanced CoA, advanced CoC and a top-tier fruit; Sanji has no advanced CoO, no advanced CoA, no CoC, no advanced CoC, no top-tier ability and absolutely no hope. Stop comparing him to top-tiers - guess what post-WCI Luffy has? Advanced CoO at the very least lmfao, he's already doing better than Sanji, who genuinely is so weak he still would be unable to even moderately damage Kaido.

Sanji is on the same level as post-WCI Luffy - there is absolutely no opponent he has defeated that post-WCI Luffy would not have been able to defeat. Please, name one. Same level doesn't mean equal btw, I think Sanji's probably about as strong as the likes of Lucci, Marco and Katakuri. He's not weak by any means, until you start comparing him to people who are lightyears above his paygrade.
 
The thing is, when we see a character defeat a YC2 or a YC1, we don't immediatelly assume he can also defeat a certified stronger peer, especially when the compared feats aren't in his favor.

It's obvious that he will continue to grow and he did get something good in Egghead, but if this wasn't Sanji being carried by the monster trio, if this was just Luffy having defeated Queen with a power up, people would be looking forward to his fight with King and would be excited to see him surpass him as well.

Sanji's placement near Zoro and Luffy is 99% carried by "maintaining status quo". And now that we got the Gaban statement, that's happening even harder. The 1% is the overblown hype his speed got among his fanboys.

Sanji can grow to be on Luffy and on Zoro's side again, but @HeroesNZ isn't wrong since he's talking about the later comparable feats.

Maybe Sanji has already been slingshotted by the status quo up there and everyone who hypes him will act smart, but if he has, he simply hasn't shown it yet.
He’s completely wrong because he is cherry picking arguments. We have Oda stating that Gaban who is Sanji’s counterpart is relative to Roger who is Luffy’s counterpart. Now you may say Joyboy this and Ryuma that, but for ages these same cunts were the ones who said Luffy and Zoro are set apart just like Roger and Rayleigh. Now when Gaban’s introduced the fuckers ask for feats and verbatim statements. Well Oda just gave you one today fucktard!
 
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