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BBP ain't surpassing Rox Pirates
I dont even think its the point. Rocks were notorious for being too powerful and ambitious and that lead to their downfall. You need "weaker" people to sustain the heirarchy and devotion of the crew.

I absolutely can see Blackbeard surpassinf Rocks/Roger/Shanks/whoever, but I definitely dont expect his crew to be Yonko level powerhouses each, they are all geared to fight the likes of Chopper or Usopp or Nami. Some of them HAVE to be moderately weak relative to the Strawhats' own weak members.
 
Yes he was. I’m just asking for one time when any of them weren’t actively hindrance in fights.

Like cmon, even Brook can be useful against Big Mom. You’re telling me Sanjuan and Vasco combined can’t help against Garp?

These characters have absolutely zero hype
Even Brook didn't hurt Big Mom directly he just cut Zeus and gave Prometheus a little gash on his face
Also even Kuzan couldn't do that much to Garp (albeit he was holding back) so I don't see why it's bad for them to lose to Garp
Again I bring up Gaban, dude bulldozed Sommers and ended up cutting him in half after taking an arm.
Top tiers are just too much for high tiers, this has always been a fact, it's usually people on the level of Marco or Zoro that don't get immediately shredded by a top tier.
 
Even Brook didn't hurt Big Mom directly he just cut Zeus and gave Prometheus a little gash on his face
Also even Kuzan couldn't do that much to Garp (albeit he was holding back) so I don't see why it's bad for them to lose to Garp
Again I bring up Gaban, dude bulldozed Sommers and ended up cutting him in half after taking an arm.
Top tiers are just too much for high tiers, this has always been a fact, it's usually people on the level of Marco or Zoro that don't get immediately shredded by a top tier.
Sommers was by himself. These guys were outnumbering Garp 5 to 1. But Sanjuan became basically a hostage by being one shot and put under water

Trying to push these characters to be as hype as the Rox pirates is why saying BBP will surpass them is ridiculous right now. Either Blackbeard will magically boost all of them or it’s just not going to happen. But they aren’t getting their by their own power.
 
I dont even think its the point. Rocks were notorious for being too powerful and ambitious and that lead to their downfall. You need "weaker" people to sustain the heirarchy and devotion of the crew.

I absolutely can see Blackbeard surpassinf Rocks/Roger/Shanks/whoever, but I definitely dont expect his crew to be Yonko level powerhouses each, they are all geared to fight the likes of Chopper or Usopp or Nami. Some of them HAVE to be moderately weak relative to the Strawhats' own weak members.
Yeah. Teach surely surpass he's father, but the rest of the crew? this is way too much. I don't even think SHs will surpass Rox, only M3 will reach their league.
 
Sommers was by himself. These guys were outnumbering Garp 5 to 1. But Sanjuan became basically a hostage by being one shot and put under water

Trying to push these characters to be as hype as the Rox pirates is why saying BBP will surpass them is ridiculous right now. Either Blackbeard will magically boost all of them or it’s just not going to happen. But they aren’t getting their by their own power.
I disagree but we'll see.
 
The BBP's are canonically the only group specifically stated to having grown in power every time they make an appearance. This was established in FI. Their bounties are rising steadily. Oda can give them whatever plot buff required to be relevant and it wouldn't be an asspull.

Besides. Blackbeard can get so strong that he quite literally disposes of his crew himself becoming a sole mega villain. He's going to wield the power of at least one ancient weapon soon enough.

But I'm going with option 1. Oda is gonna adjust their strength as much as he needs.

Nothing is preventing him from doing this. The strength of the BBP's is not even remotely an issue.
 
Shiryu surpassing Oden/Rayleigh is the problem. Current Blackbeard running from Shiryu would be a silly thing to see
Rayleigh admitted he would've lost to Blackbeard. Blackbeard's crew essentially mimics Whitebeard's, with his second ship titan being the strongest one, akin to the second division commander of Whitebeard (considering prime Ace would've been top tier).
 
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