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fair enough. But I think the exposition of Imu, and while this happens all the rest of the world makes their moves, BBP, Shanks, Revs, and what not. Is moving the plot pretty fast. It means we get an introduction to Imus abilities well before Imus actual arc
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No I’m saying hyping characters for being “level 6 prisoners” doesn’t matter cause oda doesn’t even care to preserve that hype and made them literal hype tools for CP9.
He also made a Warlord a hypetool for Aramaki but that doesn't mean Aramaki beats every Warlord (though he beats nearly every one), Mihawk would still high diff him.
This isn't as simple as "one level 6 prisoner got slammed by Lucci, so all of them do!"
They don't go to level 6 purely due to strength
 
bringing the dawn is not just taking out Imu? It is hinted that it literally has more to do with bringing people together like Roger and Luffy’s dreams imply

or do you think Luffy literally said “ I want to be king of the world?”
Luffy just wants to be free. I don't think the story so far pushes Luffy to be the one who brings people together. Just to free them.

I'd say the dawn strongest connection would be with bringing Fishmen Island to the surface.
 
and that feat made primebeard, meme, shiki and everyone else hide behind Rocks
he went extreme diff with the weakest no name admiral with turf nerf while having the reverie pass
Why are you coping so much. They didn't consider themselves subordinates to Rocks.



As Blackbeard said, a pirate crew often is just a bunch of pirates teaming up for common interests. You should know this well protecting your Ex-Admiral boy Aokiji who became a Blackbeard commander. Both Whitebeard and Kaido pointed out how too many conqueror's teaming up is bound to fail, as everyone has their own agenda and strives to conquer.

Don't be mad because a great pirate squashed an admiral.
 
In which case we can judge them on their individual showings and Shiryu has the best of them… but Vasco, Devon, Sanjuan? I’m pretty sure they’ve been literally hindrances in every battle they’ve been in.
In one battle they were up against Hancock who's likely top 3 strongest Warlords (although she's a woman so Oda will always downplay her a bit) and in the other they were up against fucking Garp the fist who, if you need a refresher, was duking it out with the Pirate King and being a major player in God Valley in his prime

That's like expecting Jack or Queen to be able to give Old Gaban a good fight
 

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You literally said Admirals are not we thought they were. So why didn't they massacre Garp and Sengoku. They had 38 years to do it?
You are making this worse with each reply, it gets dumber and dumber. It doesn't work the way you think it does.
Admirals are not what people thought they were, they are not the big bosses that Yonkos are.
They are not in conversation for the World's Strongest.
They get sacrificed as hype tools for people like Yonkos which is what Rocks was.

The opposite doesn't happen, a Yonko is not sacrificed for Admiral's hype.
The big shots do not meet anywhere close to as often as you implied this with >38 years...
It has been decades since Yonkos saw each other, guess how many times Garp/Sengoku even encountered Yonkos in those 38 years?
Especially as a desk pusher in the position of a fleet admiral... Close to never.

Also, when a Yonko falls, it is after a gauntlet against many people.
Admirals will fall as side battles for "random people" in 1vs1...
 
In one battle they were up against Hancock who's likely top 3 strongest Warlords (although she's a woman so Oda will always downplay her a bit) and in the other they were up against fucking Garp the fist who, if you need a refresher, was during it out with the Pirate King and being a major player in God Valley in his prime
Yes he was. I’m just asking for one time when any of them weren’t actively hindrance in fights.

Like cmon, even Brook can be useful against Big Mom. You’re telling me Sanjuan and Vasco combined can’t help against Garp?

These characters have absolutely zero hype
 
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