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Uncle Van

Uncle Van

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On the surface the Democratic Party seems better, but they always compromise and bend the knee because they got no choice; the political landscape forces them to. America leans so much to the right that a centrist like Bernie Sanders is called a communist or radical leftist.

In order to campaign, you need funding. You don't get funding from corporations and organizations without appealing to the status quo, and it was the biggest reason Bender Sanders always lost. His policies go too much against the status quo, so they push other candidates over him.

The biggest issue with the Democratic Party is that they fund far right candidates to make themselves look like the lesser evil. The pick the easiest, most outrageous far right candidates in their minds in order to easily win seats. This strategy, though successful at times, has backfired and got far rightist voted in at the state level, and federal level in the senate and house. The biggest blunder so far was them funding Donald Trump in 2015 and 16.
 
Gaimon The Pirate

Gaimon The Pirate

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Uncle Van said:
On the surface the Democratic Party seems better, but they always compromise and bend the knee because they got no choice; the political landscape forces them to. America leans so much to the right that a centrist like Bernie Sanders is called a communist or radical leftist.

In order to campaign, you need funding. You don't get funding from corporations and organizations without appealing to the status quo, and it was the biggest reason Bender Sanders always lost. His policies go too much against the status quo, so they push other candidates over him.

The biggest issue with the Democratic Party is that they fund far right candidates to make themselves look like the lesser evil. The pick the easiest, most outrageous far right candidates in their minds in order to easily win seats. This strategy, though successful at times, has backfired and got far rightist voted in at the state level, and federal level in the senate and house. The biggest blunder so far was them funding Donald Trump in 2015 and 16.
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Well, their biggest blunder was choosing not once, not twice but THRICE an unbelievable candidate.
The first was a woman who kept the name of a husband who cheated on her, well known for laughing about dead soldiers and a representative of "the deep state" in lack of better words.
Then they chose a senile man.
Then a literal who whose only campaign possible was to pander.
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Uncle Van said:
On the surface the Democratic Party seems better, but they always compromise and bend the knee because they got no choice; the political landscape forces them to. America leans so much to the right that a centrist like Bernie Sanders is called a communist or radical leftist.

In order to campaign, you need funding. You don't get funding from corporations and organizations without appealing to the status quo, and it was the biggest reason Bender Sanders always lost. His policies go too much against the status quo, so they push other candidates over him.

The biggest issue with the Democratic Party is that they fund far right candidates to make themselves look like the lesser evil. The pick the easiest, most outrageous far right candidates in their minds in order to easily win seats. This strategy, though successful at times, has backfired and got far rightist voted in at the state level, and federal level in the senate and house. The biggest blunder so far was them funding Donald Trump in 2015 and 16.
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Dems also have a lot of infighting, whereas the GOP is very cultish

https://today.yougov.com/politics/a...cans-want-as-their-2028-presidential-nominees

JD Vance has a decent chance of winning in 2028 imo. 44% of republicans see him as the ideal candidate whereas only 23% of dems see Newsom(the dem front runner) as ideal.
 
Uncle Van

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
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Gaimon The Pirate said:
Well, their biggest blunder was choosing not once, not twice but THRICE an unbelievable candidate.
The first was a woman who kept the name of a husband who cheated on her, well known for laughing about dead soldiers and a representative of "the deep state" in lack of better words.
Then they chose a senile man.
Then a literal who whose only campaign possible was to pander.
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Oh yeah 3 unholy fuck ups in a row is quite the feat. Kamala Harris was the worst since she was by far the least popular choice, and was known as the non existent VP.

Monkey D Theories said:
Dems also have a lot of infighting, whereas the GOP is very cultish

https://today.yougov.com/politics/a...cans-want-as-their-2028-presidential-nominees

JD Vance has a decent chance of winning in 2028 imo. 44% of republicans see him as the ideal candidate whereas only 23% of dems see Newsom(the dem front runner) as ideal.
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The GOP has been unified since the 70s ever since they decided to lean on Christian nationalism, pro life, pro guns, and traditional American culture as their core positions. The Dems are always at a tug of war between pro capitalism and social freedoms, which are in opposition to one another.
 
Jesse Pinkman

Jesse Pinkman

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Monkey D Theories said:
Dems also have a lot of infighting, whereas the GOP is very cultish

https://today.yougov.com/politics/a...cans-want-as-their-2028-presidential-nominees

JD Vance has a decent chance of winning in 2028 imo. 44% of republicans see him as the ideal candidate whereas only 23% of dems see Newsom(the dem front runner) as ideal.
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MAGA base will crumble the day trump is gone . Vance is part of Capitalist lobby propped by Elon and his buddies .

Anything i feel Tucker might take the mantle of MAGA base once Trump is gone and he is far more dangerous.
 
HerreraIsBack

HerreraIsBack

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Logiko

Logiko

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Gaimon The Pirate said:
I do not understand if people like CoC or C4N understand how much lying undermines their argument.
They embellish reality like that statement, which is per se controversial, and make a mockery of themselves automatically depicting their cause worse.
I discovered kirk 3 days ago and it just looks like an average right wing spokeperson, repeating church phrases and semi-liberal stuff like the second amendment, (I admit I don't follow much american politcs as I despise them, as it's an inane circus where 2 partisan play at controlled opposition to serve the same causes). He was simply doing propaganda for his party, a messanger for a fake party that represents bombing the middle east/south america and exploiting what they can. @Jew D. Boy Do you honestly believe democrats would be better and not a third part?
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I don't lie about fascism. What I say is always sourced or verifiable. Before playing the lessons giver, learn about the subject please.
Uncle Van said:
On the surface the Democratic Party seems better, but they always compromise and bend the knee because they got no choice; the political landscape forces them to. America leans so much to the right that a centrist like Bernie Sanders is called a communist or radical leftist.

In order to campaign, you need funding. You don't get funding from corporations and organizations without appealing to the status quo, and it was the biggest reason Bender Sanders always lost. His policies go too much against the status quo, so they push other candidates over him.

The biggest issue with the Democratic Party is that they fund far right candidates to make themselves look like the lesser evil. The pick the easiest, most outrageous far right candidates in their minds in order to easily win seats. This strategy, though successful at times, has backfired and got far rightist voted in at the state level, and federal level in the senate and house. The biggest blunder so far was them funding Donald Trump in 2015 and 16.
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The issue is sadly systemic.

The democrats are just a representation on a system that fights for its own survival. They might be more progressive in the US than other country, but basically, it's a depoliticized faction of the population that appeal to the interests of the middle class and the upper class. These types of formation, in any types of country, is doomed to allow the far right to rise. Just like it happen in France in the 30'/40'..

Fascism is a system that place wealth in a major position of power. As such.. The interests of the rich, will always align with the interests of fascists. And movements like democrats who juggle with capitalist interests and social reform, will always choose the first.

HerreraIsBack said:
That's a you problem. You believe in communist. You are still a conspiracy theorist.
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That would be true if my knowledge was not based on facts and studies or research. But it is...
Yours on the other hand...

:catsure:


HerreraIsBack said:
What is there to trust? It is talking about a theory. You want me to say if I believe the source is telling the right theory or not?
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I would like you to tell me if you trust the information of the article or not and if you will therefore accept what the article says.

Or just dissmiss it and why.
 
Jew D. Boy

Jew D. Boy

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Gaimon The Pirate said:
I believe that with the Biden move the democrat have shown their card.
They put forward a fake candidate and then when proven that he was senile, poor fucking man was thrown under the bus, to put unelegible number 2.
I feel the dems never wanted to win in the first place, because they could not solve the Gaza situation, could not solve the Ukraine one and it was better to just pass the ball. In the end, this said, they vote the same way on Israel, on bombing civilians, on lobbying. I believe that us plays controlled opposition, and that's why people like Bernie or moderates in the right will NEVER win.
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Why would they want to win and have to be responsible for the state of the country when they can sit back, wax poetic about how “democracy is under attack” and “we need to resist tyranny,” and constantly elicit millions of dollars in “donations” that go right into their reelection campaigns?? They can pretend like they’re fighting back and profit off of that misguided perception, sounds like a hell of a deal to me; it’s the one thing they took away from the conservative playbook that actually works for them.
 
HerreraIsBack

HerreraIsBack

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Logiko said:
That would be true if my knowledge was not based on facts and studies or research. But it is...
Yours on the other hand...

:catsure:
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Karl Marx fictional book is not fact ot study.

Logiko said:
I would like you to tell me if you trust the information of the article or not and if you will therefore accept what the article says.

Or just dissmiss it and why.
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You still didn't answered what I asked.
 
Logiko

Logiko

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HerreraIsBack said:
Karl Marx fictional book is not fact ot study.
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I'm not talking about Karl Marx or his work. Bu technically, what he pointed out with historical materialism is in fact... factual lol


HerreraIsBack said:
You still didn't answered what I asked.
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What is there to trust ?
The content. The theory of the capitals (which was verified btw)

So, do you trust it or do you prefer to dissmiss it and if that's the case, why?
 
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