Controversial General Political Discussion

[Blax Blah]

Antifa = antifascist action

Im sorry but you are talking out of your ass.

And also major lmao at "I'm saying that you can't be antifascist and be right wing. You can be against fascism if you are right wing"

Your utter inability to properly use words is baffling.

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Fucked up

You could be right wing and fight against the racist part of fascism, but you can not be right wing and fight against fascism, because fascism is capitalism running wild, brutally oppressing workers, due to the state acting in accordance with companies and letting the company bosses' economic interests run free, those interests being: 1. Pay workers as little as possible, 2. Make people pay as much as possible for products and services

The right wing can not stop fascism, because fascism grows out of capitalism, which is what the right wing supports

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Literally the only thing that can stop fascism are strong and radical unions, workers crushing the power of capitalists, not even social democrats can stop fascism because they want a more controlled capitalism, not an alternative

Like say you are right wing right?

And you're in a congress running the governement

And you're arguing with a fascist party about why the governement should not become fascist

What is your argument?

Their argument is: capitalism is good, so let the capitalists ( the company owners, the company bosses ) be freer, so capitalism can be freer, so things can get better

You, being right wing, support capitalism

So what's your argument against that fascist party?

 

[Akai2]

I posted this meme on Friday, and for some reason expected to sign in to Logiko quoting me with an essay on gender equality

Following this thread has cooked my brain so badly to the point that I'm anticipating Logiko political essays on regular chapter threads

 

[Logiko]

I posted this meme on Friday, and for some reason expected to sign in to Logiko quoting me with an essay on gender equality

Following this thread has cooked my brain so badly to the point that I'm anticipating Logiko political essays on regular chapter threads

You are proud?

 

[Akai2]

You are proud?

Of what?

 

[Logiko]

Of what?

This made you laugh?

 

[Akai2]

This made you laugh?

Yes, I made the meme. I only post memes that make me laugh.

It's a meme bro I don't actually think women deserve less calm down

 

[Logiko]

Yes, I made the meme. I only post memes that make me laugh.

It's a meme bro I don't actually think women deserve less calm down

So, why did you laughed?

 

[RyoQ]

You can't be right wing and anti fascist but you can be right wing and against fascism

 

[Logiko]

You can't be right wing and anti fascist but you can be right wing and against fascism

Yup. It's not contradictory.

Antifascism is a set of actions and behavior against fascism
Being against fascism is not enough to be antifascist.

 

[RyoQ]

Yup. It's not contradictory.

Antifascism is a set of actions and behavior against fascism
Being against fascism is not enough to be antifascist.

it is a contradiction, in English anti means opposed to or against this is the definition of the word, to be against fascism is definitionally antifascist

 

[Akai2]

So, why did you laughed?

Do you want me to explain to you what comedy is, or the difference between comedy and moral instruction, or the difference between using ethical satire to invoke a reaction without endorsing the real world content of said satire? Do we really need to do this Logiko?

Post automatically merged: Sunday at 12:21 PM

it is a contradiction, in English anti means opposed to or against this is the definition of the word, to be against fascism is definitionally antifascist

Welcome to the thread btw

I haven't seen you before, but reading some of your takes, you'll start some spicy conversations around here

 

[Logiko]

it is a contradiction, in English anti means opposed to or against this is the definition of the word, to be against fascism is definitionally antifascist

Nop. Anti and against are two very different things in this case.

Being opposed to or against fascism is a stance, it's not necessarily followed by a political action.

Antifascism is historically a set of action against fascism. As such, to be antifascist, you need more than just explain that you are against or opposed to fascism, you need to adopt behaviors and do some actions against it.

A rightist can't do that fully as their ideologies and values will help fascist (hence why we want to separate ourselves from rightists)

Do you want me to explain to you what comedy is, or the difference between comedy and moral instruction, or the difference between using ethical satire to invoke a reaction without endorsing the real world content of said satire? Do we really need to do this Logiko?

Since I fell a little bit hard on you. Allow me to soften a bit now that I have your attention:

Please ask yourself this question : Did you laughed about or against what happened to Shakky here?

You can simply answer with one word, I want to follow with an argument (since this is what you expected)

 

[Akai2]

Please ask yourself this question : Did you laughed about or against what happened to Shakky here?

Neither. I didn't laugh at what happened to Shakky.

There was a popular meme where a rapper was reading a "Women deserve less" book, and includes a lot of anti women lyrics in his songs. So when I read the scene, I thought it would be funny to rework that meme to include sommers instead of the rapper, which made me laugh. Has nothing to actually do with SHakky.

 

[Zenos7]

I literally explained that it was a movement of ACTION against fascism. You blind or what?

Stop, for the fucking love of the moon queen, talking about things you do not understand just to contradict people you do not agree with for reasons you do not yet comprehend or because you are angry that the big bad woke is calling out your lack of reasonning.. It makes you look like a ignorant pain in the Herrera.. This is not the first time that I'm telling you this. Abortion, critical thinking, eugenism, rationnality, trans people, leftism, you are lost on ALL those subjects. So kindly, go talk to your inner Ravager and leave the grown up discussions for me.

Antifa is a movement that promotes the antifascist ACTIONS against fascism. In other words you can't be antifa and being rightwing since the entire premisse of being rightwing is promoting ideologies and values that HELPS fascism you birdcaged goof.

you still, multiple times, tried to make it seem like antifa just means antifascism. well it doesnt. mind your words better next time, then i dont have to call you out. if you understand that it is a movement beyond just simple antifascism, then thats great.

and its quite funny, because im not speaking on this topic because i disagree with you lmao. i do agree on alot of things with you, and even occasionally like some posts of yours. there is absolutely nothing wrong with anything i said on this topic of antifa. and tbh on abortion i dont even have a strong opinion, usually people call me a fence-sitter on that one lmao.

and iirc it was you who didnt get that eugenics is about heritable traits, so that one is out the window as well.

and maybe you arent the grown up if a mild disagreement about how you phrase yourself when talking about antifa makes you cram out all the topics you remembered that we had disagreements about lmao.

and me laughing at this quote from you "I'm saying that you can't be antifascist and be right wing. You can be against fascism if you are right wing" is totally warranted because of how utterly retarded this statement is.

Being against fascism makes you antifascist. like, using words cant get simpler than this. so if you supposedly unterstand that antifa stands for the political movement "antifascist action", how you dont understand that being against fascism makes you antifascist is beyond me.

you are clearly not up for talks between grown-ups, so kindly fuck off and reflect a little before you throw around emtpy accusations again because your little fweelings got hurt.

 

[Reborn]

Akai justifying himself for making meme as if his life depends on it

 

[Zenos7]

You could be right wing and fight against the racist part of fascism, but you can not be right wing and fight against fascism, because fascism is capitalism running wild, brutally oppressing workers, due to the state acting in accordance with companies and letting the company bosses' economic interests run free, those interests being: 1. Pay workers as little as possible, 2. Make people pay as much as possible for products and services

The right wing can not stop fascism, because fascism grows out of capitalism, which is what the right wing supports

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Literally the only thing that can stop fascism are strong and radical unions, workers crushing the power of capitalists, not even social democrats can stop fascism because they want a more controlled capitalism, not an alternative

Like say you are right wing right?

And you're in a congress running the governement

And you're arguing with a fascist party about why the governement should not become fascist

What is your argument?

Their argument is: capitalism is good, so let the capitalists ( the company owners, the company bosses ) be freer, so capitalism can be freer, so things can get better

You, being right wing, support capitalism

So what's your argument against that fascist party?

you can be right wing and be against authoritarianism, nationalism, using violence or intimidation to censor your political opponents, idolizing the political leader and whatnot... and right wingers can be in favor of democracy.

so yeah, there is much more right wingers can be against with fascism than just the "racism" part of it.

 

[Akai2]

Akai justifying himself for making meme as if his life depends on it

When I posted that meme I thought "Logiko’s gonna get mad at me" Then I realized I was actually in the OP chapter thread, not the politics thread.

It cracked me up how this thread has basically fried my brain, so posted about it here, and it turned into exactly what I’d imagined, with Logiko getting mad at me

 

[Zenos7]

You can't be right wing and anti fascist but you can be right wing and against fascism

yeah logiko is a legit lost cause. his brain is fried beyond recognition

 

[Akai2]

You can't be right wing and anti fascist but you can be right wing and against fascism

Is that Homer simpson? LMAO

 

[Zenos7]

it is a contradiction, in English anti means opposed to or against this is the definition of the word, to be against fascism is definitionally antifascist

issue is logiko doesnt use words as they are intended. he just makes up shit and if you dont agree then you
1) dont understand his profound wisdom
2) are a transphobe,fascist,homophobe,racist,whatever

Post automatically merged: Sunday at 12:54 PM

Do you want me to explain to you what comedy is, or the difference between comedy and moral instruction, or the difference between using ethical satire to invoke a reaction without endorsing the real world content of said satire? Do we really need to do this Logiko?

yes please