So what ? You’re making bridges that don’t have to be between different fields
Are they different fields tho?
I just wanted to debunk AL's philosophical takes, because I am sure he is also an accumulating being and he knows what's "good" for him.

I just proved that it exists, since I don't get where AL comes from and you seemingly speak up for him lmao.
 
Read about the hard problem of conciousness
It's a legit questionning but I think it's a step ahead from our current debate. Currently, we are quesitonning the validity of the materiality of the process of consciousness itself under a political lens rather than the qualia (raw feeling of consciousness.) itself

I don't have a definite opinion on the subject. Even tho I lean toward the idea of a false problem & consciousness being an illusion.


The mind is just a seat in front of the screen? how does it know it's a seat in front of the screen?
No. Your sense of self is like an imaginary person seating in front of a movie screen.

It's a machine that is wired - in our case - to observe itself.


Again, matter cannot self-reflect, there must be an immaterial faculty that does that since self reflection is an immaterial process involving concepts, universals, intentionality...
Like I explain with the hard problem above. Why you could question the materiality of the raw feeling of consciousness.

Self reflection as a process is not immaterial, it is but a consequence of a material process.

Imagine when you discover that no physicalist approach can answer the hard problem :AlexChills:
Actually it can, if you consider the hard problem as a false problem or with other types of reasonning. But this is not the subject here. And the potential materiality of a raw feeling does not equate to a divine immaterial condition of consciousness rather something we still don't fully understand yet. On top of that, it's irrelevant politically in our current debate.
 
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So a mentally ill sociopath killing his wife and 2 children and then killing himself is not evil/wrong, but just a "perspective"?

What about the torturing and abuse cartells in South Korea? What is their perspective?

What about a capable person saving someone's life after a heart attack? Isn't that "good" as per definition?
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What AL is saying here I think, he is subjectively practicing "Null Philosophy" and he thinks it's the absolute perspective.
simply put what's good to you isn't good for everyone
 
i dont really care either way, but im not going to believe some supernatural claims about a soul being the reason consciousness can exist just because science can not yet answer the problem of consciousness.

so again, what is your point?
I'm just curious
According to idealism only conciousness/sujective experience exist. The "physical" would be just a categorical mistake we created because we have the impression that the external objects of our subjective experience should exist beyond our experience
 
No. Your sense of self is like an imaginary person seating in front of a movie screen.

It's a machine that is wired - in our case - to observe itself
this analogy only works if what we call self-reflection is a material process which can be found in the brain

it's not, since it involves immaterial actions such as thinking about concepts, choosing between thoughts (which involves the will, also something immaterial), etc.
 
fair

then your quote really sounded confusing, or it was standing without context lol

now I am asking this really out of curiosity, just so we get to know each other better lol, to what kind of persons do you think accumulation is not a good thing?
I am asking because from my philosophical standpoint, accumulation is equal to the meaning of life. @AL sama
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I can't put it better than this right now.
 
I'm just curious
According to idealism only conciousness/sujective experience exist. The "physical" would be just a categorical mistake we created because we have the impression that the external objects of our subjective experience should exist beyond our experience
thats more of a very strict type of idealism, idealism generally isnt necessarily about denying the existence of anything physical.

but we still didnt get to your point.
 

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Thank god they're fighting against all this socialism, it's so dangerous, wow



Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Maybe the people who make money kidnapping children, who work for people who make money sex-trafficking and killing children, are actually the bad guys?

Thank god that, the people who kidnap children and shoot priests in the eye, are saving us from the Jewish guy, who wants old people to be able to retire, gosh.
 
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