then your quote really sounded confusing, or it was standing without context lol
now I am asking this really out of curiosity, just so we get to know each other better lol, to what kind of persons do you think accumulation is not a good thing?
"People don't operate by what's right and wrong, but by convenience. They'll say and do whatever they can to reach and justify that convenient outcome."
When you think of a triangle, you grasp the concept of triangulation itself, the definition of a triangle
The mind grasps concepts, a concept can't be contained inside matter by definition. It's immaterial. So actions of the mind that work with concepts (such as self-reflection) can't be reduced to material functions.
Uhm...really on a fundamental level. Starting from birth and getting a feel for sensations. Accumulation, as in a corner stone of human growth and growth of a personality.
im not a fan of philosophy, thats why i said i didnt really care either way. at the end of the day, we dont know. but i have no good reason to believe supernatural claims about consciousness can only come from souls. since that wasnt your point, i jumped to a conclusion based on assumptions, that was my bad.
this analogy only works if what we call self-reflection is a material process which can be found in the brain
it's not, since it involves immaterial actions such as thinking about concepts, choosing between thoughts (which involves the will, also something immaterial), etc.
No. It involves material action. That's what you do not take into account. While the materiality of the subjectivity of the sensation can be questionned through the hard problem, the process behind this action is not extra-natural. It's a consequence of material action and consequences. The will, for ex, is a material process. It's not some extra-dimensional quality of human experience coming from nothing.
When you think of a triangle, you grasp the concept of triangulation itself, the definition of a triangle
The mind grasps concepts, a concept can't be contained inside matter by definition. It's immaterial. So actions of the mind that work with concepts (such as self-reflection) can't be reduced to material functions.
A concept is but a projection of a material process, an self-interpretation of reality based on specific parameters. When your brain is wired differently, you interprete reality differently. The material > Creates > The interpretation of the material
No. It involves material action. That's what you do not take into account. While the materiality of the subjectivity of the sensation can be questionned through the hard problem, the process behind this action is not extra-natural. It's a consequence of material action and consequences. The will, for ex, is a material process. It's not some extra-dimensional quality of human experience coming from nothing.
I agree, it does involve materiality. But it is above materiality because it pulls forms from matter
Brain -> 5 senses, fires neurons, stores memory, etc.
Mind -> receives info from brain to form concepts, uses concepts to engage in self-reflection
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Because materialism is false, there exists form + matter, brain interacts with matter, the mind or self-reflective part of consciousness interacts with the form of matter during thinking/self reflection
One can argue outside events aren't inherently good or bad...its our perception which add meaning to the outside events.
As perception of everyone differs based on experience, conscience, culture and so on...so, does the meaning they attach to outside events. Thus, one can say there isn't anything good or bad.... right or wrong.
However, I do feel this is partially true. There are certain things which can be argued are inherently wrong....like genocides or inherently good.
if what illogiko says about materialism is true, there can be really no ethics or morals at all to begin with so nothing can be argued as inherently evil. AKA you could justify anything
That's why you shouldn't listen to apolitical youtubers, specifically when they have ATROCIOUS narrative takes. Jay D completely misses the subtilities of Luffy's character. While Luffy will usually refuse to intervene. This refusal stands on ethical principles of non interference.
Luffy, when presented with the entire context of an injust and oppressive situation, does not wait to intervenene or try to.
Here you can see the speed of the ball as the nature of the signals, when the signal is X, the ball falls, but when it's Y it goes faster and can influence the trajectory of others signals. As you can see here, a self contained system influencing itself.
if what illogiko says about materialism is true, there can be really no ethics or morals at all to begin with so nothing can be argued as inherently evil. AKA you could justify anything
Uhm...really on a fundamental level. Starting from birth and getting a feel for sensations. Accumulation, as in a corner stone of human growth and growth of a personality.
if what illogiko says about materialism is true, there can be really no ethics or morals at all to begin with so nothing can be argued as inherently evil. AKA you could justify anything
That's why you shouldn't listen to apolitical youtubers, specifically when they have ATROCIOUS narrative takes. Jay D completely misses the subtilities of Luffy's character. While Luffy will usually refuse to intervene. This refusal stands on ethical principles of non interference.
Luffy, when presented with the entire context of an injust and oppressive situation, does not wait to intervenene or try to.
I don't think Jay is necessarily wrong in a sense that Luffy does not go out of his way to help people like some fans project him too. Would Luffy let an injustice happen in front of him? probably not. If he was in IRL would he go to Ukraine, Sudan or Palestine to help them? Probably not lol
One can argue outside events aren't inherently good or bad...its our perception which add meaning to the outside events.
As perception of everyone differs based on experience, conscience, culture and so on...so, does the meaning they attach to outside events. Thus, one can say there isn't anything good or bad.... right or wrong.
However, I do feel this is partially true. There are certain things which can be argued are inherently wrong....like genocides or inherently good.
like what Reborn-san is tackling here, "inheritance".
Accumulation into human growth are one thing I consider as inherently good. Without it we wouldn't exist as we are, we probably would have no history books and the concept of teaching and learning would not exist.
Taking this into another direction, like for example in a materialistic-philosophical sense, I personally think that the idea of "overneccessity" is a bad thing. Because it is the root cause of fatigue. Not only fatigue for humans, but fatigue towards bigger structures, mechanisms and concepts.
Just examples if we take the "inheritant" layer of this.
One can argue outside events aren't inherently good or bad...its our perception which add meaning to the outside events.
As perception of everyone differs based on experience, conscience, culture and so on...so, does the meaning they attach to outside events. Thus, one can say there isn't anything good or bad.... right or wrong.
However, I do feel this is partially true. There are certain things which can be argued are inherently wrong....like genocides or inherently good.
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