Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1163 Spoilers Discussion

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I have gone on the record and said how I really feel about Xebec. Unlike MANY clowns on this forum who downplay Imu constantly I never doubted his Top Tier status. But the way some people legit reject reality is just stupid to me.

The comment I am responding to specifically is trolling / messing around, I am well aware, but some people LEGIT cope about where Imu and Xebec stand in terms of hierarchy and I am just done with it.
Any evidence that Fraudmu has greater strength or durability than Webec?
 
Xebec got greedy an misread a fake opening in the bosses attacks strings.

Honest mistake we all do this sometimes
Visually it looked ass but when you look at it Xebec got turned into a slave without Imu seeming to put much effort, and that's arguably the strongest pirate in the series alongside Roger and WB (we haven't seen Joyboy and Davy Jones yet).
Right now Imu can low diff anybody in the verse, he's literally impossible to hurt even with the strongest COC and a single wound is enough for him to turn you into his slave.
And that not even his real self in this chapter, he's limited to Saturn (the guy who was struggling against Nami and Chopper) bum ass moveset btw
I was skeptic of the midget but I have to recognize he's untouchable rn
 
You were also betting on shanks vs Luffy and oda found a way out to give us shanks (shamrock) vs Luffy instead
this literally isnt an argument in your favor lmao. In fact, it makes the concept stupider because instead of Shanks being complexr/layered, he has an evil twin Luffy is destined to fight now. It fundamentally changes nothing about Luffy fighting him conceptually. They look exactly the same

That has no bearing on how obvious it is Imu is endgame of this series
 
We DO realize Imu is an unreachable tier of its own outside JB and Jones.

But there's really no one, past or present, that Oda would give such honor of having a moment like that with Imu himself.


I mean, Sabo facing the elders and Imu 1 vs. 6, launching a fire fist and then trying to escape with Cobra in his backpack wasn't bad either. Sabo was hated for no reason. The fact he made it out alive is already incredible.
 
Yeah to get through Imu’s hax

No evidence that Imu outstats Xebec in strength, speed, durability

Bro had to bait Xebec into getting greedy to land Domi Reversi
He stabbed him from the front, no bait involved. Also this is Saturnmu, not Imu himself. He also quite literally stabbed him through the front while looking at him.
 
Visually it looked ass but when you look at it Xebec got turned into a slave without Imu seeming to put much effort, and that's arguably the strongest pirate in the series alongside Roger and WB (we haven't seen Joyboy and Davy Jones yet).
Right now Imu can low diff anybody in the verse, he's literally impossible to hurt even with the strongest COC and a single wound is enough for him to turn you into his slave.
And that not even his real self in this chapter, he's limited to Saturn (the guy who was struggling against Nami and Chopper) bum ass moveset btw
I was skeptic of the midget but I have to recognize he's untouchable rn
The bolded is also valid. I speculated that possessing Saturn was probably not the best when it comes to combat lol.
 
I mean, Sabo facing the elders and Imu 1 vs. 6, launching a fire fist and then trying to escape with Cobra in his backpack wasn't bad either. Sabo was hated for no reason. The fact he made it out alive is already incredible.
Sabo was running away.

Xebec and Imu engaged in an actual 1v1 and Xebec had Imu unable to kill him for the whole chapter.

Totally different scenarios.
 
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