Future Events Zoro vs Whos Who

[nik87]

I didn't know their sword was the reason why they were able to cut through Kaido's dragon scales and I sure didn't know that Kaido just talked BS about the Scabbards using "Oden's haki".

Of course it's their swords lol. What do you expect, a fist and a leg to go through Kaido's scales?

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Swords? That wasnt stated.

Swords are the only thing that ever left a scar on Kaido.
Haki blasting cant even budge his scales, it's there to attack the insides instead of the scales.

Come on man, a sword is just a blade, you cannot seriously believe that only sword can injure Kaido? Or do you?

 

[nik87]

Come on man, a sword is just a blade, you cannot seriously believe that only sword can injure Kaido? Or do you?

No, I never said that.
However, swords have never been stated to have shattered against Kaido.
That's what you claimed and it's wrong. Swords have a special pedestal in OP.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

No, I never said that.
However, swords have never been stated to have shattered against Kaido.
That's what you claimed and it's wrong. Swords have a special pedestal in OP.

They absolutely don't. They have in your eyes but it was never stated that swords were special in one piece.
I doubt the blade that swords are made of are different than for a spear.
The user makes the difference, and I can also give you the quality of the blade like Yoru, Enma or WB bisento.

 

[nik87]

They absolutely don't. They have in your eyes but it was never stated that swords were special in one piece.
I doubt the blade that swords are made of are different than for a spear.
The user makes the difference, and I can also give you the quality of the blade like Yoru, Enma or WB bisento.

Which other weapons have as much focus as swords do?
Which other weapons became black blades?
Which other weapon has an arc full of its users?

>Swords dont have a special pedestal.
Sure they dont.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Which other weapons have as much focus as swords do?
Which other weapons became black blades?
Which other weapon has an arc full of its users?

>Swords dont have a special pedestal.
Sure they dont.

They are pirates weapons. They are not special, their users can be though.

But I can't convince you and you can't convince me, I'll just keep reading you bro. I can't win against you anyway. Nobody can.

Did I ever tell you that I considered you on a tier of your own on this forum? There is you and Jo_Ndule.

 

[pg13]

Before posting pointless things like this, please think ahead at least 10 seconds.
How many times will you guys post Sanji cheap shotting some swordsman or defeating some fodder swordsman as proof that Sanji can handle swordsmen? Is that how you expect his major fight of the arc to go? One cheap shot or his opponent to be fodder?

Not Luffy, not Sanji nor anyone in the world of One Piece has demonstrated handling swordsmen if they are barehanded combatants, ON PANEL. Forget the cheap shots and irrelevant fodder, we are talking about Queen, a fight where Sanji is the underdog. Cheap shotting Raisin or defeating fodder swordsmen wont help him at all against Queen. Queen not using swords vs BM is simply storytelling.

Idk if queen uses swords do you think he uses it in the same vein that Zoro, Vista, Oden, Ashura Douji, or Mihawk do? They live and die by the sword. They only use sword related attacks. I feel like theres two different kinds of swordsman in one piece...... for example Pica used a sword but that wasnt why it took so long to beat him......... It was because of his devil fruit.

I'll be honest with you if Sanji fought Queen the only real thing he'd have to overcome is Queens durability...... Sanjis probably outclasses this guy in speed and can hit queen whenever he wants, the invisibility just makes it tht much easier...... but doing damage would be the problem. Thats the only thing Sanji would have to worry about when it comes to Queen.... doing damage. essentially jabra 2.0

 

[Sentinel]

Of course it's their swords lol.

So you are going against Kaido's words and thus, Oda's words? Nice to know how little you think about manga facts.

 

[nik87]

Did I ever tell you that I considered you on a tier of your own on this forum? There is you and Jo_Ndule.

Well, thank you.
Lumping me together with ndule ruined it tho.

Idk if queen uses swords do you think he uses it in the same vein that Zoro, Vista, Oden, Ashura Douji, or Mihawk do? They live and die by the sword. They only use sword related attacks. I feel like theres two different kinds of swordsman in one piece...... for example Pica used a sword but that wasnt why it took so long to beat him......... It was because of his devil fruit.

I'll be honest with you if Sanji fought Queen the only real thing he'd have to overcome is Queens durability...... Sanjis probably outclasses this guy in speed and can hit queen whenever he wants, the invisibility just makes it tht much easier...... but doing damage would be the problem. Thats the only thing Sanji would have to worry about when it comes to Queen.... doing damage. essentially jabra 2.0

Afaik, they all use the swords in the same way...
Live and die by the sword is not something from the manga, it's fan fabrication.
Two different kinds of swordsmen is also fan fabrication.
Having a devil fruit doesnt stop anyone from being a swordsman...

I dont think there was any Sanji's major opponent of the arc that Sanji could have hit "whenever he wanted'.
Sanji will take heavy damage too, it is inevitable and it if it is through swords it's trouble so swords need to go, somehow.
PageOne is Jabra 2.0, not Queen. There was nothing like Queen in the past.
A tanky swordsman with plague shots is a new thing.

So you are going against Kaido's words and thus, Oda's words? Nice to know how little you think about manga facts.

No, Sentinel-kun, I completely agree with Oda words that Enma was a sword that gave Kaido his only scar.
Not Oden's haki but Enma, a sword.

 

[Sentinel]

No, Sentinel-kun, I completely agree with Oda words that Enma was a sword that gave Kaido his only scar.

Nonsense, it was Oden's strength and haki which cut Kaido.

Not Oden's haki but Enma, a sword.

So did Kinemon magically had Enma to cut Kaido or is his sword something impressive as well?
Or we, which is usually common sense, are going with Kaido's words in which they were only able to injure Kaido due to their haki.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Whether Zoro and Sanji haters hate it or not, they're both getting the top two Disasters.

 

[HA001]

Nonsense, it was Oden's strength and haki which cut Kaido.



So did Kinemon magically had Enma to cut Kaido or is his sword something impressive as well?
Or we, which is usually common sense, are going with Kaido's words in which they were only able to injure Kaido due to their haki.

Youre both right.
Swords play a huge part too.

I e cracker only broke luffys haki with his haki and his named sword pretzel.
All other times his haki did not break luffys.

 

[Sentinel]

Youre both right.
Swords play a huge part too.

Well, that's true as well. After all, there are levels of swords as well.
Btw, did Oden not cut Kaido with two swords? It wasn't only Enma, was it?

I e cracker only broke luffys haki with his haki and his named sword pretzel.
All other times his haki did not break luffys.

Haki is clearly the more haxxed part; the stronger your swords are, the better is your Haki against an opponent since stronger swords clearly increases your AP even further.

 

[nik87]

Nonsense, it was Oden's strength and haki which cut Kaido.

Dont nonsense me. Do you agree with Oda's words or you dont?

So did Kinemon magically had Enma to cut Kaido or is his sword something impressive as well?

Will Luffy leave a scar? Your Hakiman approach is hilarious. I know one guy who will be happy about it.

 

[Sentinel]

Do you agree with Oda's words or you dont?

I agree with Oda's words; you obviously do not.

Will Luffy leave a scar?

I dunno but it is a fact that Luffy will take a part by defeating Kaido.
He has at least a way to injure Kaido due to his penetration haki.

Your Hakiman approach is hilarious.

You really have to quote that part when I'm apparently talking about Hakiman or are approaching it.

Stop making up idiotic stuff.

 

[nik87]

I agree with Oda's words; you obviously do not.

Why did you say it's nonsense then?

I dunno but it is a fact that Luffy will take a part by defeating Kaido.
He has at least a way to injure Kaido due to his penetration haki.

So, it's not haki what left scar on Kaido, it was a sword? First you say no and go around just to say yes in the end.
You could have saved time for yourself and myself...

You really have to quote that part when I'm apparently talking about Hakiman or are approaching it.

Here, to my response about what happened to Kaido against swords.

Not against a sword, against haki.

Satisfied?

 

[Uncle Van]

Zoro can fight Who's Who, King, Kaido etc. In the same arc. This is a war scenario where everyone will likely swap battles 24/7 like in MF.

 

[Shiroyru]

Zoro can fight Who's Who, King, Kaido etc. In the same arc. This is a war scenario where everyone will likely swap battles 24/7 like in MF.

By fight, do you mean beat or just have a brief clash? I don’t see the point in Zoro beating Who’s Who if he’s also gonna beat King

 

[Uncle Van]

By fight, do you mean beat or just have a brief clash? I don’t see the point in Zoro beating Who’s Who if he’s also gonna beat King

I'm clearly talking about clashes....I even mentioned MF.....

 

[Sentinel]

Why did you say it's nonsense then?

Because you're only granting this feat due to Oden's sword when there are several factors being responsible for this scar.

So, it's not haki what left scar on Kaido, it was a sword?

I honestly have no idea why you came up with an answer like that when I only said: "I dunno but it is a fact that Luffy will take a part by defeating Kaido.
He has at least a way to injure Kaido due to his penetration haki."

Like, are you confused for real or was I phrasing my statement not that accurate?

Ryuo is an important tool to injure Kaido, that's a fact which Kinemon and Co proved despite having shitty AP and swords.

Here, to my response about what happened to Kaido against swords.

And that's apparently Hakiman approach? You do realise that Haki is an important tool for swordsmen? In fact, I was even making a compliment for swordsmen since their Haki is advanced enough to injure the most durable character in OP, lmao.
I think you are confused for real.

Once again, stop making up moronic stuff.