Who will be the next great leader of the Zoro Temple!?


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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Valid enough but I don't see how anyone counters Maki as of now.
Let uncle Gaban have a shot at it. :Nik_Youthink:
Jokes aside, Luffy and Loki were incompetent...
... everything looks Impossible when you observe it through such lenses.
I learned this with Katakuri's Future Sight, I thought this shit was really invincible because Luffy had no answer for it...
But the reality is, just because Luffy is having trouble with something doesnt mean others will be troubled by it.

Speaking of Maki...
...what do you think about it being Malice, the evil that dwells inside all living things?
Luffy and Loki being pure-hearted idiots with no malice in their hearts, cannot be exploited and Domi Reversied...
Other than that, aCoC barrier should be a counter for Maki, nothing should go past that overall but with Oda, stronger attack will always triumph.
 
Jokes aside, Luffy and Loki were incompetent...
... everything looks Impossible when you observe it through such lenses.
It's almost logia like nigh invinciblity all over again.

I learned this with Katakuri's Future Sight, I thought this shit was really invincible because Luffy had no answer for it...
But the reality is, just because Luffy is having trouble with something doesnt mean others will be troubled by it.
Katakuri Situation was obvious since the start, people who look a few seconds into the future would loose if opponent is faster than they can react or AoE moves.

Speaking of Maki...
...what do you think about it being Malice, the evil that dwells inside all living things?
Luffy and Loki being pure-hearted idiots with no malice in their hearts, cannot be exploited and Domi Reversied...
Other than that, aCoC barrier should be a counter for Maki, nothing should go past that overall but with Oda, stronger attack will always triumph.
I had theories but currently everything has failed. Maybe DF ability to usr your soul as a bargain chip to get powers.

It's obvious not anyone can learn it or Gorosei would be top candidates. It can only be extended forward.

And if it's DF ability, Haki burst is the key to it.
But given from what roger said armanent haki reverses the DF effect. Zoro should have overpowered sommers Maki
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
I had theories but currently everything has failed. Maybe DF ability to usr your soul as a bargain chip to get powers.
It has to be something that Imu can exploit, like in case of Rocks and all the giants that were turned...
...but at the same time something that cannot be exploited in case of Luffy and Loki.
And then there is also the fact that Chopper, another pure hearted guy, seems to be a natural counter for it...
...what is he slapping out of them, beyond my guess at the moment but the evil in their hearts could be a solid guess.

I am sure it is a DF power, just like Moriah's.
Everyone has shadows, only Moriah can manipulate them. Here, nearly everyone has malice in them but only Imu can manipulate it...
...the problem is also Oda putting storytelling first, feats second so we are maybe thrown off by Rocks failing to counter it just because Oda wanted to off him in that way instead of being consistent feat wise...
Maybe what Law did against DocQ's ability is all that is necessary to counter Domi Reversi as well.

We also should note that both regen and Domi Reversi disappeared since Imu's real body showed up...
>Omen is Mu's military might...
This to me sounds the same as Moriah's ability, the more shadows he has, the more powerful he gets while Imu gets stronger by forging Covenants.
 
It has to be something that Imu can exploit, like in case of Rocks and all the giants that were turned...
...but at the same time something that cannot be exploited in case of Luffy and Loki.
And then there is also the fact that Chopper, another pure hearted guy, seems to be a natural counter for it...
...what is he slapping out of them, beyond my guess at the moment but the evil in their hearts could be a solid guess.
I would love to add the two devil fruit theory here.
Two demons can't exist at once, and domi reversi is forceful contracts where demon consumes all the life energy till the user dies.

That's why Luffy and Loki are immune, they already have a demon inside and then Chopper also have a zoan fruit.
Zoan fruit tend to carry their own will/Soul.

I'm not sure if this was said for Logia and Paramacia.

I am sure it is a DF power, just like Moriah's.
Everyone has shadows, only Moriah can manipulate them. Here, nearly everyone has malice in them but only Imu can manipulate it...
...the problem is also Oda putting storytelling first, feats second so we are maybe thrown off by Rocks failing to counter it just because Oda wanted to off him in that way instead of being consistent feat wise...
Maybe what Law did against DocQ's ability is all that is necessary to counter Domi Reversi as well.
Or we looking at it the wrong way, yes Haki is a counter to hax.
But we abilities like Big mom soul control, Perona fruit, Boa Hancock fruit.
Haki can't evade these, Only certain emotions can. Bigmom was countered by Jimbei by not showing fear. Boa was countered by being stoic/Asexual, Perona was countered by Ussop by always being negative.

Domi reversi might work given what their motives are. How evil they are, how much will they fall.
- Loki, Luffy and chopper arr obviously the good soul guys.
- Xebec clearly wasn't. Giants are menace to some degree too but they showed restraints and killing each other unlike Xebec who went batshit crazy.


We also should note that both regen and Domi Reversi disappeared since Imu's real body showed up...
>Omen is Mu's military might...
This to me sounds the same as Moriah's ability, the more shadows he has, the more powerful he gets while Imu gets stronger by forging Covenants.
Yea I stand by that too.

Imu omen is almost like Moriah shadow, Thry can't be hurt or anything. Practically invincible.
I even had a thread for it.
Check this out
 
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