Future Events Can Luffy become pirate king without being Top 1 in the verse?

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#81
Roger didn't have all these powerful people on his side, and he reigned Supreme. It was his Era after Rocks died and it remained that way until his death. That's because he had the strength to back it up. Just like how when Roger died Whitebeard reigned supreme as the unofficial King of the Seas, and that was also due to him having the strength to back it up.
Yes, he did. He had Rayleigh on his side. Rest of the crew wasnt shabby either.
He didnt "reign" anything after taking the title that he wasnt "reigning" before it.
Literally, nothing changed except giving himself a title he made up.

Strength to back up what? Being taken by your navigator to Raftel or having Oden to read PGs for you?
Which of those is strength backing up? Where is this PK being strength achievement coming from?
If you dont have the strength to back it up, someone will come along and snatch the precious title away from you?
got folks who think that a villain that is taken out by the end of this arc is/will be the peak of strength in this manga
utter rubbish
Considering that Luffy isnt stronger than most of people he has beaten in NW and even in pre-TS, thinking that the final villain puts Luffy into his shadow is common sense. Too many people have fallen because of favorable circumstances, not because Luffy was stronger.
 
#82
Luffy can become pirate king and be weaker yes.He can't be truly free however ,unless he is the strongest. That is why he will face the WG the oppressor of the world after learning the truth ,to be become truly free ..
End of series Luffy will be the strongest in the verse.
 
#83
That's not the point. Luffy will find Laugh Tale and become Pirate King, that is a given. But in order for him to do so, and to hold on to that title once he acquires it he has to be the strongest. Nobody is going to acknowledge someone as the Pirate who reigns supreme on the Seas if they don't have the strength to back it up.
What makes you think Luffy wants to hold on to that title?
Luffy literally just wants to go on an adventure and find One Piece, not hold a position of authority lmao?
Who has ever held the title of PK? To become PK you have to journey grand line and get One Piece, once Luffy has done it thats it.
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Yes, it is possible.
we have worlds strongest swordsman weaker than Shanks, Fujitora, Rayleigh.
we have worlds strongest creature weaker than Akainu, Kizaru.
we have worlds strongest man that is weaker than Roger, Akainu, Kizaru, Squardo
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#88
You know that the same Roger who defeated the Rocks spent 12 years right after the God Valley incident doing nothing in Lodestar without the help of Oden? The fact that the knowledge of the Kozuki and their ability to decrypt Poneglyphs is what allowed Roger to become a Pirate King, proves that strength is only one of the many requirements to become a Pirate King.

If Roger didn't recruit Oden he wouldn't have reached Laugh Tale. If Roger didn't team up with Marines he wouldn't have beaten Rocks. For Oda, collecting allies seems to be a far more important trait for a PK than individual strength, which is being highlighted with Luffy.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#89
You know that the same Roger who defeated the Rocks spent 12 years right after the God Valley incident doing nothing in Lodestar without the help of Oden? The fact that the knowledge of the Kozuki and their ability to decrypt Poneglyphs is what allowed Roger to become a Pirate King, proves that strength is only one of the many requirements to become a Pirate King.

If Roger didn't recruit Oden he wouldn't have reached Laugh Tale. If Roger didn't team up with Marines he wouldn't have beaten Rocks. For Oda, collecting allies seems to be a far more important trait for a PK than individual strength, which is being highlighted with Luffy.
Yep he even knew about wano (said a samurai from that country finally escaped)
But never tried to go there to get one when he knew he needed someone from there to help him.
 
#94
I think he probably won't be the n1 in the verse
that would be either Imu or blackbeard.

I could honestly see him tag teaming blackbeard with help from smoker or Koby, if he's strong enough. Blackbeard is supposed to parallel Xebec so I think Luffy might get a marine's help to beat him.
 
#97
But Zoro is there to protect the crew though
he is nothing more than first mate which all Pirate captains have, WB had Oden/Marco, Roger Had Rayleigh....Luffy always takes on Bosses cause he knows its his responsibility and Crew lets him fight bosses exactly for that reason and they believe in him and his responsibility to take care of biggest obstacle among opponents... lots of examples, VS Doffy, VS Moriah, VS Lucci....
 
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Shuyaku

#99
How so? At the end of the day this is a Shonen Manga, and the Protagonist being number one at EoS is a staple in these type of series.
It’s literally not. Naruto is not the strongest. Ichigo is not the strongest. Goku is not the strongest. I could go on. But these are the shows closest to One Piece, none of them i clude the mc being the number one.
 
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