[FNZ] Role Madness Round 15: Wano act 3

[Fujishiro]

dont know why I put reluctant there yes you believing every single claim without questioning further or using any deductive skills to give them a confirmation. thats odd you missed midnights claim when you’ve believing that Yama is neutral pro town indie due to this. Anyone harmful to town is a priority mafia and hostile indies.

no you had a handful of bad points, you’re willing to give Yama up to help TAC, you were willing to let me be a Lynch candidate after town reading me and the majority gave me a town read when you could’ve easily cast a vote on Ratchet who already had two votes and fallen could’ve had the 4 on him with Tacs vote, very bad gameplay and decision making. You’re willingly to just mislynch cause we have numbers which is a stupid tactic and a mislynch shouldn't even be a thought nat even stressed the importance of us not mislynch inv which is why she backed me with Ratchet when we were all divided and had no other clear option that we could Lynch without us falling into mislynch territory.

I did not believe their claims completely, i just put them at the back of my mind for now, Flower for example yes i believe her claim but thats because i was already leaning town on her and no one CCed her claim.(also past games with her)


Im not gonna give yama till mafia is gone or on their last leg, then sure i might consider it. How is that bad exactly? We use TAC and is vote modifier to help town.
I must admit one simple thing, this i was rash on. Yes i was willing to gamble and see if TAC's vote modifier exists or not, if it existed you wouldnt have died and fallen wouldve. Thus i was willing to risk it because then it wouldve determined TAC's usefulness for the long run.And as i didnt fully read you as town then it was fine by me. I am sorry about that, ive been busy with exams and was trying to get fast results this way. Thats the one bad point i had, i do not believe having TAC on our side is bad. And you are the one that assumes they must be harmful townies when by nature i think TAC's lyncher claim makes sense and lynchers do not have harmful abilities towards town.

As for ratchet, yes he could be harmful but i still thought going for possible mafia was a better choice, and i saw fallen as mafia then and there.
Let's not prattle on this, i recognize i acted harshly sure, but you on the other hand were acting rude last DP and continue to do so. Learn to be polite and talk normaly without insulting others for a start.

youve already been wrong in your guessing game and decision making so your opinion is null and void to me.

I was wrong once about ratchet being drake and thus my opinion means nothing to you? Quite rude isnt it mister lets push for fallen because he susses me.

I got nat's role since the start, as well as who yamato might be, and i sure as hell think i know what midnight is. Im just telling you that your guesses might be wrong, if it rilled you up. You couldve just asked me why i thought so instead of going the usual rude route.

Ill be frank with you, i dont like you. You come in, first time into this forum and start yelling and calling people names. That's not how you get people to listen to you.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

@TheAncientCenturion why r u still voting fallen prince?
@Dragomir mind explain ur vote on tobi?

 

[Fujishiro]

I still think the same thing. I forgot about them since I got caught up in defending myself.

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Alright man, thats fine. You'll just talk about them and otheer people once we get your reads i assume?

 

[Dragomir]

@TheAncientCenturion why r u still voting fallen prince?
@Dragomir mind explain ur vote on tobi?

Tobi is currently following his scum meta. He's coasting a lot and the interactions are just flat out lacking from his end unlike when he's town.

Alright man, thats fine. You'll just talk about them and otheer people once we get your reads i assume?

There's not really much to say about those inactive tbh. That read of mine is mostly because I felt that the events of last day phase were mostly town vs town bickering and scum was coasting. However, we know that there's at least one person that's at least paying attention to the game within their team right now. I believe that person to be Tobi.

 

[Fujishiro]

Yamato just joined the fight with luffy, i doubt she would be considered part of the SHs alliance, i think she is indi pro town. I dont believe what midnight is saying mate, its just my thinking.
Also i already answered your question about lynchers always having town targets, i said depending on the flavor of the game and the host's mood that may not be the case. Rej like to fuck with people so there being a lyncher with an indie target can be a thing. Look im gonna drop that stuff anyways because TAC has been unhelpful so far, dude voted Fallen again even though falllen is confirmed town rn.
Im gonna vote Kiwi/tob or drago, those are my 3 rn.

Gonna wait to see if there is any development but, and this is in no way an Omg you voted me so i will vote, i had kiwi as sus since yesterday and i just dont like how she has the same sus list as me and flower. Asks us to give reasons for our susses on them while at the same time refusing to give hers, and then use my position on TAC to vote me right after i press her for said reads.

Vote lynch kiwipom

 

[Dragomir]

Yamato just joined the fight with luffy, i doubt she would be considered part of the SHs alliance, i think she is indi pro town. I dont believe what midnight is saying mate, its just my thinking.
Also i already answered your question about lynchers always having town targets, i said depending on the flavor of the game and the host's mood that may not be the case. Rej like to fuck with people so there being a lyncher with an indie target can be a thing. Look im gonna drop that stuff anyways because TAC has been unhelpful so far, dude voted Fallen again even though falllen is confirmed town rn.
Im gonna vote Kiwi/tob or drago, those are my 3 rn.

Gonna wait to see if there is any development but, and this is in no way an Omg you voted me so i will vote, i had kiwi as sus since yesterday and i just dont like how she has the same sus list as me and flower. Asks us to give reasons for our susses on them while at the same time refusing to give hers, and then use my position on TAC to vote me right after i press her for said reads.

Vote lynch kiwipom

Who are you specifically talking to here?

 

[Fujishiro]

Tobi is currently following his scum meta. He's coasting a lot and the interactions are just flat out lacking from his end unlike when he's town.

There's not really much to say about those inactive tbh. That read of mine is mostly because I felt that the events of last day phase were mostly town vs town bickering and scum was coasting. However, we know that there's at least one person that's at least paying attention to the game within their team right now. I believe that person to be Tobi.

While Tobi is summy as fuck, and no offense to him, but i do not believe he was the one to pick up on who nat was. Id say there was atleast 2 scum active.

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Who are you specifically talking to here?

Oh damn, this was for @MUUGEN

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Who are you specifically talking to here?

What do you think about the interraction between me and kiwi?

 

[Dragomir]

While Tobi is summy as fuck, and no offense to him, but i do not believe he was the one to pick up on who nat was. Id say there was atleast 2 scum active.

Do you believe this because Tobi isn't attentive just like he was in the light game y'all were scum in?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Yamato just joined the fight with luffy, i doubt she would be considered part of the SHs alliance, i think she is indi pro town. I dont believe what midnight is saying mate, its just my thinking.
Also i already answered your question about lynchers always having town targets, i said depending on the flavor of the game and the host's mood that may not be the case. Rej like to fuck with people so there being a lyncher with an indie target can be a thing. Look im gonna drop that stuff anyways because TAC has been unhelpful so far, dude voted Fallen again even though falllen is confirmed town rn.
Im gonna vote Kiwi/tob or drago, those are my 3 rn.

Gonna wait to see if there is any development but, and this is in no way an Omg you voted me so i will vote, i had kiwi as sus since yesterday and i just dont like how she has the same sus list as me and flower. Asks us to give reasons for our susses on them while at the same time refusing to give hers, and then use my position on TAC to vote me right after i press her for said reads.

Vote lynch kiwipom

did u talk about ur abduction anywhere?

any info on who abducted u?

did u like mason with someone or how does that work?

cuz one of these 4 (Michel, TAC, Drago, MUUGEN ) does have a +2 vote power apparently, so i'd be careful not to vote for someone voted by these 4.

unless you have any info on where that extra +2 might've came from?

 

[Fujishiro]

oh k just saw the lynch and night kill

well that clears up fallen prince as town as per Law's passive ability.

people that were taking the opportunistic vote on prince need to be looked at.

Michel, TAC, Dragomir, and MUUEGN. Thats 4 voters, but prince had 6 on him.

also Fujishiro has an unknown vote of a dash " - "

I'm gna assume one of these 4 above (Michel, TAC, Drago, MUUGEN) has a +1 vote power or ability??

and Fuji got masoned by someone (aka abducted? similar to law's abilty) , and seems like they were forced to or swayed into voting for fallen prince, but we do not know who abducted him.

now keep in mind before the dash vote on fuji, he had a vote on muugen. Is muugen the one that masone'd him or forced him to change vote to fallen?? cuz the vote count was pretty close if we forget about the extra +2 vote power that someone has.

I think you missed it but TAC claimed lyncher with a vote modifier, hence the 6 votes. We wanted to confirm his claim irc.

And yeah i was abducted but i can assure you it wasnt muugen who forced me to do anything nor did he abduct me, i have my reasons but i will keep the name of the person who did it under wraps. Hope you understand.

What do you mean by dash btw?

 

[Dragomir]

did u talk about ur abduction anywhere?

any info on who abducted u?

did u like mason with someone or how does that work?

cuz one of these 4 (Michel, TAC, Drago, MUUGEN ) does have a +2 vote power apparently, so i'd be careful not to vote for someone voted by these 4.

unless you have any info on where that extra +2 might've came from?

TAC has 2.5 vote power. He stated so last day.

 

[Fujishiro]

Do you believe this because Tobi isn't attentive just like he was in the light game y'all were scum in?

Tobi in general isnt attentive to details, he's smart and can defend himself when quoted but i highly doubt he would be closely reading the thread to pick up on nat's slip, TAC did not help with that btw.

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did u talk about ur abduction anywhere?

any info on who abducted u?

Answered above, yes i talked with someone.

 

[Dragomir]

Tobi in general isnt attentive to details, he's smart and can defend himself when quoted but i highly doubt he would be closely reading the thread to pick up on nat's slip, TAC did not help with that btw.

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Answered above, yes i talked with someone.

That's fair. And you firmly believe that 2nd active scum would be Kiwi?

 

[Fujishiro]

That's fair. And you firmly believe that 2nd active scum would be Kiwi?

I mean process of elimination:
Town
Me
Muugen
Fallen
Nat

Neutral:

TAC

Midnight

Michelle(wanted to save Muugen, could be budying, still doubt its her because she is new to this forum so maybe didnt really read
interactions between well known members)

Scummy(Atleast those i feel are)

Tobi(reasons on why it cant be him above)

You( You have given me reason to sus you less than kiwi for now)

Kiwi( that leaves kiwi who was there early game around when the nat/TAC interraction happened)(also threw some shade my way, comes in today throwing more shade based on the interaction between me/tac/flowa)( thats also when the nat slip happened so she probably saw it)

So yeah i think it could very well be her.

 

[MUUGEN]

Again, this is false. I was not quick to jump on Flower on any means. I questioned her and when her answer wasn't satisfying, my suspicion deepened. Where did this easy push thing come from? Give me one good reason as to why Flower was an easy push. I'll wait.

What are you talking about? I don't want Ratchet to go unchecked either it's just that the reason you provided about him not being contributive was dumb. You can have other reasons but they're irrelevant to what I'm saying.

You Susie her within your first couple of post when you had just subbed in, flower is an easy push a cause she folds under pressure quickly which has been shown yesterday with her claiming for no reason With what one vote.

I questioned her before I gave her the hard scum read. That's why you didn't see anything after.

Yes it was a very hard scum read and when She claimed you didn’t further push her to answer anymore questions or confirm her by asking her to claim further. As stated you gave up.

I did not believe their claims completely, i just put them at the back of my mind for now, Flower for example yes i believe her claim but thats because i was already leaning town on her and no one CCed her claim.(also past games with her)


Im not gonna give yama till mafia is gone or on their last leg, then sure i might consider it. How is that bad exactly? We use TAC and is vote modifier to help town.
I must admit one simple thing, this i was rash on. Yes i was willing to gamble and see if TAC's vote modifier exists or not, if it existed you wouldnt have died and fallen wouldve. Thus i was willing to risk it because then it wouldve determined TAC's usefulness for the long run.And as i didnt fully read you as town then it was fine by me. I am sorry about that, ive been busy with exams and was trying to get fast results this way. Thats the one bad point i had, i do not believe having TAC on our side is bad. And you are the one that assumes they must be harmful townies when by nature i think TAC's lyncher claim makes sense and lynchers do not have harmful abilities towards town.

As for ratchet, yes he could be harmful but i still thought going for possible mafia was a better choice, and i saw fallen as mafia then and there.
Let's not prattle on this, i recognize i acted harshly sure, but you on the other hand were acting rude last DP and continue to do so. Learn to be polite and talk normaly without insulting others for a start

your interactions and comments seem to say otherwise.

yes that’s called gambling And the you chose me which was. Bad decision as stated you could’ve done this ploy with someone else like Ratchet a confirmed nontownie.

I was wrong once about ratchet being drake and thus my opinion means nothing to you? Quite rude isnt it mister lets push for fallen because he susses me.

I got nat's role since the start, as well as who yamato might be, and i sure as hell think i know what midnight is. Im just telling you that your guesses might be wrong, if it rilled you up. You couldve just asked me why i thought so instead of going the usual rude route.

Ill be frank with you, i dont like you. You come in, first time into this forum and start yelling and calling people names. That's not how you get people to listen to you

As of rn yes, when it comes to guessing flavors.
nat was a clear one TAC guessed it and nat gave herself away, that much was obvious as she did a bad job of denying it. Not riled up.

noted.

any info on who abducted u?

could’ve been nat that’s their ability unless alien role. Could also be multi all setup if there is an alien there would be an alien faction, orochis crew maybe.

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I mean process of elimination:
Town
Me
Muugen
Fallen
Nat

Why don’t you have flower her if you believe her invest or did you forget about cyphe?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I think you missed it but TAC claimed lyncher with a vote modifier, hence the 6 votes. We wanted to confirm his claim irc.

And yeah i was abducted but i can assure you it wasnt muugen who forced me to do anything nor did he abduct me, i have my reasons but i will keep the name of the person who did it under wraps. Hope you understand.

What do you mean by dash btw?

TAC has 2.5 vote power. He stated so last day.

oh yea forgot he did mention something like that

well then someone from the other 3 does have a 1.5x vote power

 

[Fujishiro]

yes that’s called gambling And the you chose me which was. Bad decision as stated you could’ve done this ploy with someone else like Ratchet a confirmed nontownie.



Why don’t you have flower her if you believe her invest or did you forget about cyphe?

It was a misplay, i admit it. But i also said i did not fully have you as town, i actually forgot about Ratchet if you wanna believe that. And of all the people there you were already getting voted up, and so i decided to vote prince and test it. Its not like i voted you at the begining. I only did it when you unvoted and voted fallen,but youre right. I shouldve gone for fallen and that plan was flawed to begin with.
Now that i think abou it, drago was fine with the plan of testing TAC's voting power and willing to sac you if it didnt work too.

I forgot flower honestly, she is town read.

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oh yea forgot he did mention something like that

well then someone from the other 3 does have a 1.5x vote power

What do you mean? Did i miss something lol.
Also what was it about a dash on my vote again.

 

[Dragomir]

You Susie her within your first couple of post when you had just subbed in, flower is an easy push a cause she folds under pressure quickly which has been shown yesterday with her claiming for no reason With what one vote.

But she's like that every game no matter what. There's no need to be a hesitant with the scum read when folding under pressure is not alignment indicative for her.

Yes it was a very hard scum read and when She claimed you didn’t further push her to answer anymore questions or confirm her by asking her to claim further. As stated you gave up.

She claimed Kawamatsu. A character who appears in Act 3 and is part of the Scabbards. I mean sure, it could be a fake claim but it didn't appear like one to me with how she claimed.

 

[Fujishiro]

She claimed Kawamatsu. A character who appears in Act 3 and is part of the Scabbards. I mean sure, it could be a fake claim but it didn't appear like one to me with how she claimed.

Scabbards are for sure in this game, it is act 3 and they are featured very strongly in it. No on CCed, she is town until further notice imo.

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@Dragomir do you trust me as full town?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I mean process of elimination:
Town
Me
Muugen
Fallen
Nat

Neutral:

TAC

Midnight

Michelle(wanted to save Muugen, could be budying, still doubt its her because she is new to this forum so maybe didnt really read
interactions between well known members)

Scummy(Atleast those i feel are)

Tobi(reasons on why it cant be him above)

You( You have given me reason to sus you less than kiwi for now)

Kiwi( that leaves kiwi who was there early game around when the nat/TAC interraction happened)(also threw some shade my way, comes in today throwing more shade based on the interaction between me/tac/flowa)( thats also when the nat slip happened so she probably saw it)

So yeah i think it could very well be her.

how are u so confident muugen is town?

it could very well be someone purposely tried to get fallen prince dead in order to save mugen?

i'm not liking these ppl from day 1, but i havent read the developments on day 2 so idk how much changed


6. Tobi
7. Dragomir
8. Midnight Delight
11. RedGloverKing
12. MUUGEN
15. Marimo_420
16. Zoro D Goat
22. TheAncientCenturion

one or 2 of these has to be a scum imo.

also what happened to the afk ones that never posted on d1?

some of these:

2. Seraphoenix
5. Alibaba
10. playa4321
13. Xlaw
14. Steven
15. Marimo_420
16. Zoro D Goat