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Some people here are Just blind or...

Akainu HIMSELF acknowledge the Big strenght of the samurai of Wano, AKAINU, and its paying off now.

The hints that kaido is receiving and are turning into injuries goes for ALL other characters of One piece. Theres no character EVER mentioned that Can receive an atack of Ryou and not be hurt, since Its principle is damage from inside to outside , so haki can already touch logias and hurt them if they dont have such good defense as BM or kaidou, and Ryou can hurt ANYONE, Roger, kaido, BM, shanks, BB, etc.Theres no scape from receiving a Ryou atack.

You can block It, you can avoid your body get hint by It, but If you BODY gets touched YOU WILL GET HURT.
Its not even an opinion , its a FACT.
 
People really think Luffy needs gear 4 for Zoro and Sanji??????????

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Okay so do you seriously believe Sanji is same level as Zoro?
Zoro low diffs that ****.

And I am more down to have Luffy/Zoro debate rn.

FS is nothing but fanciness Oda gave Luffy that he already forgot about because Kaido could blitz Luffy, same Kaido who likes of Kinnemon can react to.

Maybe Luffy can use a very weak form for FS as Katakuri mentioned but even then he can't shape shift like Katakuri, and its not gonna be that effective against Zoros twister pound hos that carry miles of area or Zoro producing a tornado.

Then there is the fact that Zoro is a swordsman with Haki strong enough to tame Enma, something Kinnemon thought he would die if he touched although Kinnemon had stronger Haki than Luffy because his Haki was strong enough to hurt Kaido.

Now Luffy has penetration Haki but how effective is that? We have no idea, all we know is that it can do internal damage but Zoro has survived plenty of internal damage. He got stabbed in vital organs and still carried a giant metal cage, got stabbed again by Killer and laughed it out and only passed out later due to poison and hunger.

He survived hours of internal torture in TB.

But its damn near impossible for Luffy to survive a clean hit from Zoro as he would get cut in half.
 

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Quick question - has Carrot ever landed on the cover of WSJ with Luffy?? No?? Just Yamato?? Huh, wonder if there’s anything we should take away from this...
Hmmm so far Carrot not in the cover, but i read some interesting comment from Japan forum earlier this day.
someone said Yamato might join Marco Pirates/Remnant Whitebeard Pirates as 2nd division commander because there is a relevance between Oden and Ace
 
Luffy vs Kaido
Zoro and Drake vs Appooo and Queen
Nami and Usop vs Ulti and Page One
Carrot vs Perspero pellolin
Franky vs Hatcha

Still free
Marco, Law, Kidd, Killer B, Sanji, Jinbei, Robin, Chopper, Brooks, Yamato

Big Mom, King, Hawkins, Sasaki, WsW, Black Maria, probaly Smoothie if she can find a way to enter Wano
 

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Hmmm so far Carrot not in the cover, but i read some interesting comment from Japan forum earlier this day.
someone said Yamato might join Marco Pirates/Remnant Whitebeard Pirates as 2nd division commander because there is a relevance between Oden and Ace
She asked to join Luffy’s crew, Big Bang...I don’t know how this is even still a discussion among the fandom. It’s done, she’s leaving Wano with the Straw Hats. What purpose would there even be in her joining a crew that has famously and fully disbanded?? :kaidowhat:
 

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That was Dressrosa Oda still protecting his arc bosses. After WCI and Wano no more Villain arc protection.
The excuses are pathetic lmfao. No other arc boss has been demeaned like Kaido has (accept for Big Mom-the other strongest Yonko), so clearly the Yonko are just shit tier outliers.

I made this point in the past, but I do find it funny the amount of people who claim that power levels don’t exist in OP because their own headcanon about Kaido being able to stomp Raizo is collapsing before their very eyes lol.

I made this point in the past, but whenever people saw Akainu solo’ing the entirety of the Whitebeard Pirates and said “Huh. I just assumed every top tier could solo the Whitebeard Pirates because Akainu did it.”

Yeah, no. The Yonko are not far above YC1 in the slightest. Whitebeard was as he was equal to Roger, and EOS Teach will likely be able to low diff YC1 level characters as well. Other than those two, Akainu, and Aokiji and Kizaru by extension are capable of solo’ing a bunch of high tiers at once. Probably Fujitora too given that an army of mid tiers just saw no hope whatsoever in fighting him alone lol.

But as for Akainu, yes he would absolutely roll over the scabbards here. The scabbards have been slicing Kaido up like butter, and yet characters who are probably bare minimum as strong as the Sulong Duo were nothing more than mosquitos to Akainu:


And yet, characters significantly weaker than the Sulong duo are literally reflecting Kaido’s attacks back at him and cutting his face and shit lol. Literally Raizo and Kinemon are solo’ing Kaido right now and wounding him in the process. Marco and Vista held Akainu off off panel but couldn’t injure him lol.

Meaning two mid tiers push Kaido harder than two top Yonko commanders pushed Akainu. Oh, and Kaido is the strongest Yonko supposedly.

Even if you can defeat Pacifista, that doesn’t guarantee you even register as a threat to Akainu


Literally Akainu is ignoring these characters while they attack him as he rolls over Ivankov who would probably pimp slap Kaido into oblivion as well, while Okiku stabbed Kaido through the hand and Raizo almost beheaded him while Kaido screamed for his life


It is not a question of portrayal at this point, “Oda just hasn’t made Akainu an antagonist yet!” Despite not a single antagonist prior to Kaido getting flushed down the toilet like a fat turd.

Akainu can defeat Big Mom and Kaido at the same time, as can any Admiral. After all, Akainu turned the strongest Yonko into a spectator
 
She asked to join Luffy’s crew, Big Bang...I don’t know how this is even still a discussion among the fandom. It’s done, she’s leaving Wano with the Straw Hats. What purpose would there even be in her joining a crew that has famously and fully disbanded?? :kaidowhat:
Would be a stretch to go from looking for freedom to settling to protect whitebeard’s home town
 

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She asked to join Luffy’s crew, Big Bang...I don’t know how this is even still a discussion among the fandom. It’s done, she’s leaving Wano with the Straw Hats. What purpose would there even be in her joining a crew that has famously and fully disbanded?? :kaidowhat:
no, if yamato join, so does carrot. this is a dilemma on oda part too
 
So the fight can get resolved in two way:

Kaido is in the exact situation that he was against Oden back in the day.He ether has gotten stronger and introduces his hybrid DF form(which he hasn't shown back then) or some type of power up and starts wrecking shit or he didn't evolved and again uses a hostage(this one would be against his battle code,given that he murder the old hag) to win through dirty tactics. Wonder which scenario will Oda use,heck maybe something completely else.
 
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