Spoiler One Piece Chapter 994 Spoilers Discussion
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This has never changed in the series. Like ever. Go back to Skypiea or Enies Lobby or Dressrosa or Whole Cake-half the arc is Luffy vs Fodder-Island. Fodder showcasing is not new.
That being said. Wait. Jack clearly has more to do and is being saved because his hybrid, the cornerstone of a zoan power, has not been shown off. Kaido even said he has to recover. Oda needed to:
- Resolve the Jack revenge plot from Zou
- Get a move on to fighting Kaido
To get where he is now. Its a shame the other mink leaders (Guardians/Musketeers) didn't really get showcased outside of Sulong design, but the swiftness of that battle served its purpose
That being said. Wait. Jack clearly has more to do and is being saved because his hybrid, the cornerstone of a zoan power, has not been shown off. Kaido even said he has to recover. Oda needed to:
- Resolve the Jack revenge plot from Zou
- Get a move on to fighting Kaido
To get where he is now. Its a shame the other mink leaders (Guardians/Musketeers) didn't really get showcased outside of Sulong design, but the swiftness of that battle served its purpose
Dude you’re wrong. Wano has been going on for over two years and a half whereas Archipelago, Amazon Lily, impel down, marine ford and Luffy and ace flashback combined took less time than Wano arc alone. It has never been this bad with this many constant waste of pages of fodder fights. Every arc it has gotten worse and worse with the pacing. I am tired of Oda wasting so much time and fodder fights .
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Literally gave you examples where the fodder battles lasted 10s of chapters (Skypiea/Enies Lobby). Paramount War (the entirety of it), is still longer than Wano currently, so your first statement is false, and will be for almost another 15 chapters.
Wano is the culmination of over 400 chapters of arc layout. Marineford is a 30 chapter "showcase" of powers that only resolved Ace's plotline and teased a hundred more. It is built from the 50 chapters set up prior.
Stop trying to compare this shit, it doesnt work
Edit: And you are exaggerating immensely about "fodder" battles. There were fights with Apoo. There were fights with Kanjuro. There were fights with Ulti and Page 1. Theres been a huge fight Kaido and the Scabbards that has been ongoing. There are 60+ characters and the war has just started. There are fodder battles because it requires escalation to the bigger battles.
We are going to be in this for an extremely long time. 2 Yonko are potentially going down this arc. It doesnt happen quickly
Wano is the culmination of over 400 chapters of arc layout. Marineford is a 30 chapter "showcase" of powers that only resolved Ace's plotline and teased a hundred more. It is built from the 50 chapters set up prior.
Stop trying to compare this shit, it doesnt work
Edit: And you are exaggerating immensely about "fodder" battles. There were fights with Apoo. There were fights with Kanjuro. There were fights with Ulti and Page 1. Theres been a huge fight Kaido and the Scabbards that has been ongoing. There are 60+ characters and the war has just started. There are fodder battles because it requires escalation to the bigger battles.
We are going to be in this for an extremely long time. 2 Yonko are potentially going down this arc. It doesnt happen quickly
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It is certainly absurd. I still don't understand what reasoning crossed Oda's mind to dedicate two chapters to Urashima's subplot yet Neko and Inu's revenge on Jack or Kanjuro's defeat were off-screened in spite of its profound impact. There's an obvious and pretty much undeniable problem there, quite huge in my opinion, if the author isn't capable of building a strong emotional moment and simply goes from point A to C while ignoring the juicy B (which is what really matters). There's no argument that can support Oda's dedication to drawing explicit defeats of fodders yet he doesn't even try to handle the actual moment in which a revenge plot that started five years ago is finally resolved, speaking of Jack. Now we're more than likely bound to a good amount of chapters revolving around Luffy and company reaching the top; how many of those pages could have been used to draw a powerful scene between the minks and the mammoth?
Skypiea and Enies Lobby were 20 chapters too long each for their fodder fights. You want to shit on this arc for escalation, don't be a hypocrite then because CP9 was a 107 chapter arc that spent much of its time with Sea Train fodder battles and Luffy fighting enies lobby soldiers.
Its a thing, its always been there, and that's my point. This arc has not changed it.
And way to gravitate towards a number and not the clear fact that I proved you wrong. Onigashima does not have "just" fodder battles. Actually read the response you quoted and you'll see at least 4 examples of non-fodder fights so far.
Its a thing, its always been there, and that's my point. This arc has not changed it.
And way to gravitate towards a number and not the clear fact that I proved you wrong. Onigashima does not have "just" fodder battles. Actually read the response you quoted and you'll see at least 4 examples of non-fodder fights so far.
Exactly dude. It’s been like this since dressrosa. Oda is dedicating way too much time on subplots that are largely trivial. The pacing has been getting worse and worse. We don’t need to see Luffy and co fighting fodder. So many things going on and Oda still dedicating so much effort in fighting fodder
And your point is wrong! Is never been this bad. I already showed you the pacing pretimeskip doesn’t come close to post time skip. Literally WCI, Dressrosa and wano took up over 8 years ! That is my point. And the reason isn’t because the story somehow is more involved than it is pre time skip Instead it is because of the nonstop dedication by Oda in showing us trivial events that only drags the story.
CP9 was NOT a 107 chapter arc dude so now you are down right lying!
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CP9 was NOT a 107 chapter arc dude so now you are down right lying!
Imagine Water 7, the powerful scene in which Usopp tries to take their money back from the Franky Family, and instead of watching the snipper actually facing Franky, sharing their viewpoints and ultimately being beat up by both him and his subordinates, we only see Usopp entering the house and his lying, wounded body as Luffy and company find him with no explicit clue of what happened between those scenes. Because that's pretty much what Oda has been doing with important moments like Jack's or Kanjuro's.
Water 7 and Enies Lobby, which is CP9 together, is 107 chapters. It started Chapter 322. It ended at Chapter 441 including Post-Enies Lobby. So actually, its 119 chapters. It is still the longest arc in the series by far. Wano will surpass it in 35 chapters, assuming it will. Dressrosa is a 102 chapters. Nothing has yet to surpass CP9.
Also, the arcs you are mentioning (Dressrosa, WCI, Wano) started at a time when Oda was doing less chapters per year. You are comparing CP9, when he was doing 50 chapters on average per year. To Dressrosa onwards, which has been 38-42 chapters per year since 2014 due to his health.
So no, I'm not lying, I'm not wrong. Actually read what I'm saying. The only difference, truly is the number of characters and what YOU, the reader, care about. You CARE about those older arcs because they involved the strawhats way more personally. Newer arcs don't and a lot of secondary characters also drive the plot (Law, Kinemon, Kyros, Caesar, Germa, etc).
Did you just compare Usopp's defining scene about repairing Merry and losing that chance to....Jack losing to Minks? Comparing a main character storyline to a sub storyline between 3 secondary characters?
Ridiculous
Also, the arcs you are mentioning (Dressrosa, WCI, Wano) started at a time when Oda was doing less chapters per year. You are comparing CP9, when he was doing 50 chapters on average per year. To Dressrosa onwards, which has been 38-42 chapters per year since 2014 due to his health.
So no, I'm not lying, I'm not wrong. Actually read what I'm saying. The only difference, truly is the number of characters and what YOU, the reader, care about. You CARE about those older arcs because they involved the strawhats way more personally. Newer arcs don't and a lot of secondary characters also drive the plot (Law, Kinemon, Kyros, Caesar, Germa, etc).
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Did you just compare Usopp's defining scene about repairing Merry and losing that chance to....Jack losing to Minks? Comparing a main character storyline to a sub storyline between 3 secondary characters?
Ridiculous
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