Fanclub General Religion Thread
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You group all religions together....which is wrong. Im also under the agreement that their are many man-made religions that are wrong. The thing that sets Islam apart is due to the amount proofs it shows. Proofs that Ive put in the first page. Proofs that would be impossible if it wasnt true.
The thing you dont understand is that people dont follow Islam because of the principles. Even though principles is highly logical and good....the biggest reason is due to it being the truth.
Ive shown a few scientifc proofs of the Quran here. Things that was impossible to have been known 1400 yeara ago.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/general-religion-thread.8230/#post-793514
The thing you dont understand is that people dont follow Islam because of the principles. Even though principles is highly logical and good....the biggest reason is due to it being the truth.
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Ive shown a few scientifc proofs of the Quran here. Things that was impossible to have been known 1400 yeara ago.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/general-religion-thread.8230/#post-793514
Ive just posted it.
Here again:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/general-religion-thread.8230/#post-793514
Here again:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/general-religion-thread.8230/#post-793514
Maybe "worship" is wrong, more like "see him as the best man who ever lived" or something close to that
You didn't answer, did he own slaves ?
And he did kill and slaughter many innocent people : https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad , many sources are from the Quran itself
You didn't answer, did he own slaves ?
And he did kill and slaughter many innocent people : https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad , many sources are from the Quran itself
You do realise you and God are not on the same lvl.
If you were to kill:
- You'd fuck up your brain and psyche
- You ended someones life prematurely
- The family would hate you
- Society would deem you a monster
Etc
In general your life would be a mess if you were person who murdered for no reason.
Whilst if God takes someones life...... the same effects wont happen.
Its not being hypocritical at all. If an Adult told a child that they cant use knifes....yet they use knives themselves for cooking. Is that them being a hypecrite ? Allah has told us he is perfect, what applies to you doesnt apply to him.
If you were to kill:
- You'd fuck up your brain and psyche
- You ended someones life prematurely
- The family would hate you
- Society would deem you a monster
Etc
In general your life would be a mess if you were person who murdered for no reason.
Whilst if God takes someones life...... the same effects wont happen.
Its not being hypocritical at all. If an Adult told a child that they cant use knifes....yet they use knives themselves for cooking. Is that them being a hypecrite ? Allah has told us he is perfect, what applies to you doesnt apply to him.
WikiIslam lol.
Yes He did so what the treatment of slaves was better in Islam.
Abu rafi’ fought against the prophet multiple times the story of asma is a fabrication and if you believe Muhammadصَلَّىٰ ٱللَّٰهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ وَسَلَّمَ Did all of these then you have to admit he I’d miracles as well you played your self.
All of these people were criminals and traitors or false reports
Yes He did so what the treatment of slaves was better in Islam.
Abu rafi’ fought against the prophet multiple times the story of asma is a fabrication and if you believe Muhammadصَلَّىٰ ٱللَّٰهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ وَسَلَّمَ Did all of these then you have to admit he I’d miracles as well you played your self.
All of these people were criminals and traitors or false reports
I follow Hinduism.
We do not consider Hinduism as a religion it is a way of life for us.
And this way of life has been derived from thousands of years of believes, philosophies and scriptures.
Let me sum up Hinduism. ( I can't really do because it is so vast but I will try to cover very basic things)
We do not follow a single way of worshipping instead we believe they are many ways to do so.
It is totally a personal choice.
Here are the common philosophies/ ideologies of Hinduism I know.
1. Karma
basically it is whatever you are doing it will effect your life somehow.
if you are doing good deeds you will get good and vice versa. There is no supreme being to punish you. Life itself will put forward your past actions.
2. Dharma
it is about morality and righteous path. We do not have any conduct of what is Morally right or morally wrong. It differs from person to person.
If something is morally right for you it doesn't mean it is right for me.
3. Reincarnation
it is basically a cycle of life and death that completes when your soul (atma) becomes one with supreme being (parmatma).
This cycle is affected by your actions and you way of life i.e Karma and Dharma.
4. Moksha
No we do not have heaven or hell.
It is freedom from Reincarnation cycle. You realise your purpose and attain enlightenment.
Another important thing we believe is.
Every being has god in him/her/it. Every being is creation of god and is to be respected.
Purpose of these things is personal to the individual.
Every being is there to balance life. We humans are not superior we exist to create balance and respect everything around us.
Three main gods of our religion is Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.
Also, our three supreme being are not supreme without their female counterparts.
Brahma and Saraswati
Vishnu and Laxmi
Shiva and Parvati.
Some might not agree with me but that is the beauty of Hinduism nothing is absolute. We just have basic concepts which might differ for everyone.
We do not consider Hinduism as a religion it is a way of life for us.
And this way of life has been derived from thousands of years of believes, philosophies and scriptures.
Let me sum up Hinduism. ( I can't really do because it is so vast but I will try to cover very basic things)
We do not follow a single way of worshipping instead we believe they are many ways to do so.
It is totally a personal choice.
Here are the common philosophies/ ideologies of Hinduism I know.
1. Karma
basically it is whatever you are doing it will effect your life somehow.
if you are doing good deeds you will get good and vice versa. There is no supreme being to punish you. Life itself will put forward your past actions.
2. Dharma
it is about morality and righteous path. We do not have any conduct of what is Morally right or morally wrong. It differs from person to person.
If something is morally right for you it doesn't mean it is right for me.
3. Reincarnation
it is basically a cycle of life and death that completes when your soul (atma) becomes one with supreme being (parmatma).
This cycle is affected by your actions and you way of life i.e Karma and Dharma.
4. Moksha
No we do not have heaven or hell.
It is freedom from Reincarnation cycle. You realise your purpose and attain enlightenment.
Another important thing we believe is.
Every being has god in him/her/it. Every being is creation of god and is to be respected.
Purpose of these things is personal to the individual.
Every being is there to balance life. We humans are not superior we exist to create balance and respect everything around us.
Three main gods of our religion is Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.
Also, our three supreme being are not supreme without their female counterparts.
Brahma and Saraswati
Vishnu and Laxmi
Shiva and Parvati.
Some might not agree with me but that is the beauty of Hinduism nothing is absolute. We just have basic concepts which might differ for everyone.
I have 2 Hindu friends. Forgive me if this comes off as rude. They both stay in the religion of Hinduism for different reasons.
1 is a Hindu because he loves Hindu festivals and Parties. Whilst the other stays in Hinduism because she believes in the concept. She however believes the Gods in Hinduism are all fairy tales and made up ?
My question is....is that the general view of the Hindus ? Do most people believe the Gods are fictional or is it only some ?
1 is a Hindu because he loves Hindu festivals and Parties. Whilst the other stays in Hinduism because she believes in the concept. She however believes the Gods in Hinduism are all fairy tales and made up ?
My question is....is that the general view of the Hindus ? Do most people believe the Gods are fictional or is it only some ?
Not to mention Nadr bin Harith was the flag bearer at Badr he wasn’t killed for his mocking The source also mntions Waqidi who is known liar. Imam shafi’i (RA) said: All the books of al-Waqidi are lies. In Medina there were seven men who used to fabricate authorities, one of which was al-Waqidi.
- Ahmed bin Hanbal said "He is a liar, makes alternations in the traditions"
- Al- Nasai said "The liars known for fabricating the hadith of the Messenger of Allah are four. They are: Arba’ah b. Abi Yahya in Medina, al-Waqidi in Baghdad, Muqatil b. Sulayman in Khurasan and Muhammad bin Sa’id in Syria.
- Al Bukhari said "al-Waqidi has been abandoned in hadith. He fabricates hadith"
- Al-Dhahabi said "Consensus has taken place on the weakness of al-Waqidi"
- Yahya ibn Ma’in said "He is weak. He is nothing. Not reliable!
They could tell that sky is blue and that water flows? Paraphrasing but that's essentially it.
Make up a religion today and you will have more truth than all religions combined, ever.
It was possible to know things 1600 years ago, people weren't dumb so a list of several observations is some undeniable proof, of what?
It is started by humans, that's the only undeniable truth. Trace back any religion you want, it goes back to a human.
Make up a religion today and you will have more truth than all religions combined, ever.
It was possible to know things 1600 years ago, people weren't dumb so a list of several observations is some undeniable proof, of what?
It is started by humans, that's the only undeniable truth. Trace back any religion you want, it goes back to a human.
Here it goes. The author's authority shit. Can't really debate that, maybe someone else will.
Actually yes. That's why i never listened to this "you can't use knives, but I can just because" from my parents until they had to teach how to use them properly. I know why, but it doesn't make it less hypocritical.
Actually yes. That's why i never listened to this "you can't use knives, but I can just because" from my parents until they had to teach how to use them properly. I know why, but it doesn't make it less hypocritical.
Thats all you got from that ?
- It said the Universe is expanding
- Iron isnt from Earth
- Mountains are like stakes
- The Sky is protection from harmful effects of space
- The Sun and Moon are constantly moving
- The two seas are sperate
- Humans are made from water
- The Earth and Universe became seperate
And these are only a few. Yet all you got from all of that is " sky is blue and that water flows". Can you stop being biased and address how a book made 1400 years ago has such facts within it.
- It said the Universe is expanding
- Iron isnt from Earth
- Mountains are like stakes
- The Sky is protection from harmful effects of space
- The Sun and Moon are constantly moving
- The two seas are sperate
- Humans are made from water
- The Earth and Universe became seperate
And these are only a few. Yet all you got from all of that is " sky is blue and that water flows". Can you stop being biased and address how a book made 1400 years ago has such facts within it.
The people he quoted hate Islam They used Al Waqidi
Yes.
Answer my question did the prophet do miracles
- Ahmed bin Hanbal said "He is a liar, makes alternations in the traditions"
- Al- Nasai said "The liars known for fabricating the hadith of the Messenger of Allah are four. They are: Arba’ah b. Abi Yahya in Medina, al-Waqidi in Baghdad, Muqatil b. Sulayman in Khurasan and Muhammad bin Sa’id in Syria.
- Al Bukhari said "al-Waqidi has been abandoned in hadith. He fabricates hadith"
- Al-Dhahabi said "Consensus has taken place on the weakness of al-Waqidi"
- Yahya ibn Ma’in said "He is weak. He is nothing. Not reliable!
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Answer my question did the prophet do miracles