General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

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In Carrots defense she was entirely more relevant than half the strawhats for 80 chapters. Now she is gaining relevance again. In all fairness, we have to see how the Perospero stuff plays out. We have no idea if he'll gain the upper hand and take out Wanda, leaving Carrot as the focus, or a small flashback with Pedro is done.

Right now there isn't much to be said, but she IS gaining relevance in the arc and everyone here has to admit that because prior half the thread said she won't encounter Pero or she won't do anything to him.

Can you elaborate on the 80 chapters?

 

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Can you elaborate on the 80 chapters?

Tottoland.

 

[Visa]

From her Perspective she always wanted to go out to sea. She wasn’t in a situation where she predicament that she couldn’t get out. She could gone any time she wanted. Neku and inu set sail on there own land in wano.

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In Zou she was intrigue were luffy was going.

We don't know what predicament she was in that prevented her from leaving. Look at Bepo, left Zou at 8 years old. Inu and Neko when they were 10. And Carrot couldn't leave if she was always interested in the outside world.

She stated she always wanted an adventure at sea, but as we've seen from precedents set before her, she could have done just that, but never got to for whatever reason.

 

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We don't know what predicament she was in that prevented her from leaving. Look at Bepo, left Zou at 8 years old. Inu and Neko when they were 10. And Carrot couldn't leave if she was always interested in the outside world.

She stated she always wanted an adventure at sea, but as we've seen from precedents set before her, she could have done just that, but never got to for whatever reason.

Carrot situation was more of a legal guardian thing according her.

 

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Carrot situation was more of a legal guardian thing according her.

She has no legal guardian. Wanda just independently looks after her, like an older sister.

 

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She has no legal guardian. Wanda just independently looks after her, like an older sister.

Carrot does freak out infront that Wanda would be furious with her if she left zou exposing her way. From Wanda perspective she is glad she is safe trust straw hats that they would look after her. 823 and 824 confirmed. She wasn’t really in predict like other characters

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She has no legal guardian. Wanda just independently looks after her, like an older sister.

That only predicament you can name is poison gas jack left towards the minks. Some minks being tortured by the animal kingdom pirates. As soon donflamingo was taken down. Jack left deal with personal matter directed by Kaido himself. Only few still remain on island. Sanji wanted help minks in there situation. So they own sanji a bit of gratitude and luffy defeat to donflamingo. So they end up celebrating for therm saving there lives. Carrot situation a lot ways is similar Franky. You did something for us why don’t we return favor. Little bit of robin being stowaway. As well similar Nami’s family believing that she will be look after by straw hats. As well Vivi in terms losing mentor figure at the time.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Can you elaborate on the 80 chapters?

The arc where half the strawhats weren't even present. She had chapters dedicated to her nimble fighting style in the forbidden woods, had plenty of gags and interactions with Chopper and Nami and a chapter dedicated to her sulong form, which not one other mink received remotely the same focus, not even the Mink kings.

 

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Carrot does freak out infront that Wanda would be furious with her if she left zou exposing her way. From Wanda perspective she is glad she is safe trust straw hats that they would look after her. 823 and 824 confirmed. She wasn’t really in predict like other characters

In that same vein, then Pedro is also her legal guardian because he wanted to return her to Zou after Carrot exposed herself. They both told her not to treat the situation lightly and that it wasn't a game. Which is why she was scared that Wanda would scold her for it.

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[Staticshadic]

In that same vein, then Pedro is also her legal guardian because he wanted to return her to Zou after Carrot exposed herself. They both told her not to treat the situation lightly and that it wasn't a game. Which is why she was scared that Wanda would scold her for it.

is more the idea situation going get dangerous and risky. This isn’t going all fun games you could get hurt. Does carrot have protection she needs keep her safe from harm.

 

[Paperchampion23]

is more the idea situation going get dangerous and risky. This isn’t going all fun games you could get hurt. Does carrot have protection she needs keep her safe from harm.

Why do people like you and others keep saying this when Usopp, Nami and Chopper exist? Carrot has only EVER been shown to have been losing to Katakuri

So freaking weird, cause now half this fanbase is surprised when she and Wanda hit Perospero.

 

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Why do people like you and others keep saying this when Usopp, Nami and Chopper exist? Carrot has only EVER been shown to have been losing to Katakuri

So freaking weird, cause now half this fanbase is surprised when she and Wanda hit Perospero.

Carrot was also capture by other characters without her suslong transform. Bruelee in mirror world, one big homies, Daifku, and big mom’s was about kill after suslong transformation.

 

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Carrot was also capture by other characters without her suslong transform. Bruelee in mirror world, one big homies, Daifku, and big mom’s was about kill after suslong transformation.

She's the one who escaped Brulee to save Chopper and made a fool out of Daifuku, and she got away from the Homies in Wano just fine, like Nami.

 

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Why do people like you and others keep saying this when Usopp, Nami and Chopper exist? Carrot has only EVER been shown to have been losing to Katakuri

So freaking weird, cause now half this fanbase is surprised when she and Wanda hit Perospero.

Ussop, Nami, and chopper they can at least stand on their own 2 feet. Despite not being as strong as everybody else. Chopper still has his transformations that he can go instantly so he has better control of his transformation than he had previously. Once he master monster Point instantly with no time limit is all good. I am not saying carrot week at all. If just going relay full moon to use your full potential it’s only temporary. Is that really what they need survive in new world? If this person “supposed last straw hat”. Come on dude your going relay on the full moon to showcase your hidden potential that only once mouth.

She's the one who escaped Brulee to save Chopper and made a fool out of Daifuku.

vista actually correct me on that one. Chopper was one came up with plain and strategy in order trick bruelee alongside with carrot. The daifku situation only happens full moon.

 

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vista actually correct me on that one. Chopper was one came up with plain and strategy in order trick bruelee alongside with carrot. The daifku situation only happens full moon.

Both show her cleverness. That's got nothing to do with Sulong.

 

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Carrot was also capture by other characters without her suslong transform. Bruelee in mirror world, one big homies, Daifku, and big mom’s was about kill after suslong transformation.

Carrot suslong transformation is double sword it has incredible powerful but major draw back. I should say taxes the body. Once suslong transformation she going need some rest.

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Both show her cleverness. That's got nothing to do with Sulong.

One them suslong transformation though. while previously she was easily capture by Daifku

 

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is more the idea situation going get dangerous and risky. This isn’t going all fun games you could get hurt. Does carrot have protection she needs keep her safe from harm.

She doesn't need people protecting her, she's an accomplished warrior in her own right. Just naive and ignorant of the grander scale, which is why Pedro's words ring even in this very chapter.

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Ussop, Nami, and chopper they can at least stand on their own 2 feet. Despite not being as strong as everybody else. Chopper still has his transformations that he can go instantly so he has better control of his transformation than he had previously. Once he master monster Point instantly with no time limit is all good. I am not saying carrot week at all. If just going relay full moon to use your full potential it’s only temporary. Is that really what they need survive in new world? If this person “supposed last straw hat”. Come on dude your going relay on the full moon to showcase your hidden potential that only once mouth.

vista actually correct me on that one. Chopper was one came up with plain and strategy in order trick bruelee alongside with carrot. The daifku situation only happens full moon.

And I swear I've already talked about the situation where Carrot saved both Nami and Chopper and how she has base combat prowess to at least back that up. Her Sulong form just takes her to a tier above.

EDIT: Remember when I said this?

Except...

The first time she's captured in Brulee's Mirror World it was due to not understanding or knowing the nature of Devil Fruits and how hax it was. Considering Luffy was fighting a mirrored version of himself...

Second time was part of a plan by Chopper, which wasn't even her. Basically doing this they took over the Mirror World, which was essential in all the things the Straw Hats would do prior to the Wedding.

Third time is inexcusable, but in her defense, Sanji had trouble with Daifuku and was actually pinned down by him during the Tea Party.

Fourth time was Katakuri, nuff said.

Fifth time was due to the after effects of the Sulong transformation where she was exhausted due to the nature of it. Its excusable in this circumstance since she basically took out Daifuku's fleet who were about to attack them as Perospero had led the ship into a pincers.

Sixth time was intentional because while the plan started as saving Momonosuke, Big Mom was pursuing them, so both Nami and Carrot acted as bait so Shinobu could attempt to rescue him undisturbed. Also, Yamato didn't save Momo, Sanji did. He just had trusted Yamato to protect them because he knew they'll need someone strong to protect them.

Right now she's about to fight Perospero. Don't know how well that's about to go, but she better have a plan or some heat related counter to his candy powers or it'll be a quick flight. Considering Nami and Usopp are about to fight Ulti and Page One, we can only assume that their skillset will be ultimately shown.

In hindsight, that last point is probably void now lol

 

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She doesn't need people protecting her, she's an accomplished warrior in her own right. Just naive and ignorant of the grander scale, which is why Pedro's words ring even in this very chapter.

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And I swear I've already talked about the situation where Carrot saved both Nami and Chopper and how she has base combat prowess to at least back that up. Her Sulong form just takes her to a tier above.

She is still need protection from others. In her base form and team up with Wanda right now..
Yonji and sanji had save her from Daifku. Chopper came up idea outsmart bruelee according to chapter. Carrot praise him for that. You have luffy also saving her from katkurai after be pinning down by him. You had Jinbei who advise luffy to stop carrot from leaving group and counter attacking while trying reach to the sunny. After suslong transformation the straw hats had protect her after big mom landed on there ship. You have Nami and her team up get out of big mom’s homies. Right now in this recent chapter 992 and 995 carrot team up with Wanda to fight against Perosparro.

 

[Paperchampion23]

She is still need protection from others. In her base form and team up with Wanda right now..
Yonji and sanji had save her from Daifku. Chopper came up idea outsmart bruelee according to chapter. Carrot praise for that. You have luffy also saving her from katkurai after be pinning down by him. You had Jinbei who advise luffy to stop carrot from leaving group and counter attacking while trying reach to the sunny. After suslong transformation the straw hats had protect her after big mom landed on there ship. You have Nami and her team up get out of big mom’s homies. Right now in this recent chapter 992 and 995 carrot team up with Wanda to fight against Perosparro.

Carrot doesn't need any more protection than Nami/Usopp do. Ironically, Carrot was the one that saved Nami from Randolph and then the entire strawhat crew from Daifuku on the ocean so who actually needed protecting?

 

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Carrot doesn't need any more protection than Nami/Usopp do. Ironically, Carrot was the one that saved Nami from Randolph and then the entire strawhat crew from Daifuku on the ocean so who actually needed protecting?

what happened chapter 899?

 

[Paperchampion23]

what happened chapter 899?

I dont see your point. You keep throwing whataboutisms like it means anything im saying is nullified. She is not nearly as helpless as Nami or Usopp physically, and yes they are competent fighters, but she's even more competent, as evidenced by her previous feats.