Anime & Manga Awakened Vergo vs Raid Suit Sanji

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#82
so you dont even know what copy pasting is lmfao. 3/10 for effort

edit: and telling someone you are wasting time with him is an insult now? Wow, but im insecure.
I forgot you don't know what implication means, so I shouldn't have implied something simple, you already failed to get the implication of sanji's comment.

Also yes, if someone is too stubborn to accept evidence, a debate is a waste of time. It's like when you bring up a study when debating politics, and the other person goes "i disagree with your study" without providing any evidence to back their claim on why the study isn't evidence. If someone is unwilling to take evidence, the debate is a waste of time cuz no matter what happens or what you bring forward, the people won't change their mind, no matter how wrong they are. If you don't provide counter arguments and just go "I don't accept your facts", then it's a waste of my time.
 
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#83
I forgot you don't know what implication means, so I shouldn't have implied something simple, you already failed to get the implication of sanji's comment.

Also yes, if someone is too stubborn to accept evidence, a debate is a waste of time. It's like when you bring up a study when debating politics, and the other person goes "i disagree with your study" without providing any evidence to back their claim on why the study isn't evidence. If someone is unwilling to take evidence, the debate is a waste of time cuz no matter what happens or what you bring forward, the people won't change their mind, no matter how wrong they are. If you don't provide counter arguments and just go "I don't accept your facts", then it's a waste of my time.

What you see here, this is what logcally should've happened to Vergo the way he kicked Sanji land the way Sanji blocked, Vergo should've broken worse than this, yet Sanji is the one monologuing about it while Vergo has already forgotten about his existence. Oda makes "no bones" about it, Sanji would be reduced to a pile of bones if the fight had continued and Vergo would've upped his effort just slighly
 
#84
I forgot you don't know what implication means
i perfectly do, you seemingly dont.
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What you see here, this is what logcally should've happened to Vergo the way he kicked Sanji land the way Sanji blocked, Vergo should've broken worse than this, yet Sanji is the one monologuing about it while Vergo has already forgotten about his existence. Oda makes "no bones" about it, Sanji would be reduced to a pile of bones if the fight had continued and Vergo would've upped his effort just slighly
that you are even comparing these instances just shows the intellectual dishonesty, just like with your cheerleader friend.

Critical troll strikes again.
 
#85
i perfectly do, you seemingly dont.
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that you are even comparing these instances just shows the intellectual dishonesty, just like with your cheerleader friend.

Critical troll strikes again.
Do you actually exist, are are you a bot? I'm genuinely curious, because like, your entire shtick is that you just look at someone's argument and go "no lol", without bringing forward any counter points or evidence of your own. Like, how egocentric do you have to be to look at someone provided evidence for their claim, you providing none, saying they're wrong, then saying they're intellectually dishonest.

Imagine if when you posted a pic of sanji kicking vergo, I didn't go "well here's the context of that situation, and here is proof of that", and instead went "no lol", that's what you're doing, and you're offering nothing at all to the conversation, yet think you poop out gold ingots.

I argue to find truth to a topic, and I support my claims, you argue to be right, and if you have no evidence of your own, you just pretend everyone else's evidence is stupid, just so you can feel you're right. You're intellectually dishonest, not him.
 
#86
Do you actually exist, are are you a bot? I'm genuinely curious, because like, your entire shtick is that you just look at someone's argument and go "no lol", without bringing forward any counter points or evidence of your own. Like, how egocentric do you have to be to look at someone provided evidence for their claim, you providing none, saying they're wrong, then saying they're intellectually dishonest.

Imagine if when you posted a pic of sanji kicking vergo, I didn't go "well here's the context of that situation, and here is proof of that", and instead went "no lol", that's what you're doing, and you're offering nothing at all to the conversation, yet think you poop out gold ingots.

I argue to find truth to a topic, and I support my claims, you argue to be right, and if you have no evidence of your own, you just pretend everyone else's evidence is stupid, just so you can feel you're right. You're intellectually dishonest, not him.
you dont care about truth, otherwise you would be able to admit that an implication is not the same as absolutely knowing thats what sanji meant.

Criticals "evidence" is usually garbage, like spamming pics of shoes from a completely different perspective, spamming pics and videos of his cheerleader friend not even remotely doing what he claims vergo did, and now that anderson silva gif that also isnt remotely the same as the sanji vergo scene.

And its perfectly fine to point out flaws in someones claim without making a counter claim. I dont always have to make a counter claim. Your conclusion about sanjis inner thought is not completely invalid, but you pretend like you know for a fact that thats what he was about and nothing else is possible, and thats just garbage and i therefore point it out.

But good to know that being on the forum for a day gave you enough insight to do a psychological analysis about me :suresure:
 
#87
you dont care about truth, otherwise you would be able to admit that an implication is not the same as absolutely knowing thats what sanji meant.

Criticals "evidence" is usually garbage, like spamming pics of shoes from a completely different perspective, spamming pics and videos of his cheerleader friend not even remotely doing what he claims vergo did, and now that anderson silva gif that also isnt remotely the same as the sanji vergo scene.

And its perfectly fine to point out flaws in someones claim without making a counter claim. I dont always have to make a counter claim. Your conclusion about sanjis inner thought is not completely invalid, but you pretend like you know for a fact that thats what he was about and nothing else is possible, and thats just garbage and i therefore point it out.

But good to know that being on the forum for a day gave you enough insight to do a psychological analysis about me :suresure:
Your point doesn't match the situation, Sanji literally couldn't have been more obvious with his implication. If Sanji is in front of a naked Nami and says "I'm horny, I can't hold myself back", the implication is that he's turned on by Nami, and wants to hit it.

What Sanji said was that level of obvious implication, like there is no reaches that need to be had when Sanji said: "That was bad.... if I had continued that fight....", it's an open and shut meaning.

Critical's picture is relevant, if we were to play into realistic martial arts, sanji's block had more anatomical priority/strength, yet still Vergo came out on top. So you can't just go "no lol", a proper counter argument would be "oda wouldn't think that heavily on it, oda isn't thinking about that, and they are superhumans anyway, oda isn't a professional martial arts, he just meant he kicked and sanji blocked, and vergo's legs were stronger than sanjis, what hit what doesn't matter". See how I brought forth an actual point to counter what he said, that's what you're not doing.

If your friend got in a fight you didn't see, and then said: "That was bad... if I had continued that fight....", would you think "my friend clearly won", or would you think the obvious of "my friend got his ass beat". Vergo essentially dominating Sanji while only using kicks when his actual style uses full body martial arts + a bamboo stick, not to mention the fact that he didn't use rokushiki or busoshoku, means the fight was extremely one sided. It'd be the equivalent of base luffy fighting sanji with only kicks, and having the edge over Sanji. Vergo's legs are more powerful than Sanji's legs, and Sanji's legs are literally the strongest part of him. Imagine if Zoro or Kyros was winning against Sanji using only kicks, no matter how you spin it, Sanji doesn't look good.

People like you are all around the world, people who just want to be right, not correct, people who just say you're wrong when you provide a supported argument, people who are unwilling to change their world view in the face of new evidence.
 
#88
Your point doesn't match the situation, Sanji literally couldn't have been more obvious with his implication. If Sanji is in front of a naked Nami and says "I'm horny, I can't hold myself back", the implication is that he's turned on by Nami, and wants to hit it.
are you even trying? your example is a finished sentence that is not just an implication of sanji being turned on.

Critical's picture is relevant, if we were to play into realistic martial arts, sanji's block had more anatomical priority/strength, yet still Vergo came out on top.
maybe try to closely examine both instances, maybe you can see why they are fundamentally different. Not that i think this will actually happen though.


If your friend got in a fight you didn't see, and then said: "That was bad... if I had continued that fight....", would you think "my friend clearly won", or would you think the obvious of "my friend got his ass beat". Vergo essentially dominating Sanji while only using kicks when his actual style uses full body martial arts + a bamboo stick, not to mention the fact that he didn't use rokushiki or busoshoku, means the fight was extremely one sided.
Bro, i wont deny that there is said implication. I wont accept you pretending like thats the only interpretation and you pretending to be able to read sanjis mind. It seems you are not even trying to really understand what im saying here, but you apparently perfectly know what my "schtick" is smh.

People like you are all around the world, people who just want to be right, not correct, people who just say you're wrong when you provide a supported argument, people who are unwilling to change their world view in the face of new evidence.
No, you dont know anything about me and a few posts are not enough for you to make these conclusions. Get real kid.
 
#89
are you even trying? your example is a finished sentence that is not just an implication of sanji being turned on.


maybe try to closely examine both instances, maybe you can see why they are fundamentally different. Not that i think this will actually happen though.



Bro, i wont deny that there is said implication. I wont accept you pretending like thats the only interpretation and you pretending to be able to read sanjis mind. It seems you are not even trying to really understand what im saying here, but you apparently perfectly know what my "schtick" is smh.


No, you dont know anything about me and a few posts are not enough for you to make these conclusions. Get real kid.
You don't need to read sanji's mind (besides the fact that I think he said that line in his head, so I guess we can read sanjis mind) to know what he was saying, cuz he said the full thought of what he was meaning, he wasn't cut off at some important line, that was the full thought.

If you do something like 5 times within one conversation, it's pretty clear that it's your schtick.

Anyone who calls someone kid online is like 3000% too cringe, yikes.
 
#91
stop behaving like one then.
See, you are a waste of my time. You literaly just ignore every argument I make so you can pretend they don't exist, and then go "no u" and copy my zings.

I'm sorry your ego was hurt when you lost about the cartoon/comic book discussion about a kind of averagey leveled series. You mind need to go talk to someone about your deep seated requirement to be right.
 
#92
See, you are a waste of my time. You literaly just ignore every argument I make so you can pretend they don't exist, and then go "no u" and copy my zings.

I'm sorry your ego was hurt when you lost about the cartoon/comic book discussion about a kind of averagey leveled series. You mind need to go talk to someone about your deep seated requirement to be right.
you are so full of yourself its hilarious. lots of projection going on there buddy
 
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critical mindset

#94
Vergo can only damage Sanji's body for one time, if Sanji's body was previously damaged by Caesar Clown earlier due to body swapping with Nami.

Otherwise Vergo gets rekt, Sanji doesn't even need the suit.
Can you stop being so toxic and dumb about your fav character?


What you see here, this is what logcally should've happened to Vergo the way he kicked Sanji and the way Sanji blocked high up on the knee joint t just like this, Vergo should've broken worse than this because Sanji did a proper block, again high up where the bone and muscles of his shin bones are absolute strongest, and Vergo kicks even lower using his fucking ankle in the clash which is the weakest part of the leg. Oda portrayed it as: strongest part of the leg vs weakest part of the leg

which further proves none of his actual clashes was any serious because Sanji would’ve been reduced to a pile of bones if Vergo actually put any effort in the many panels where we see him doing seemingly proper kicks

Sanji is the one monologuing about this later while Vergo has already forgotten about his existence.

Sanji was cucked bad
 
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#96
Can you stop being so toxic and dumb about your fav character?


What you see here, this is what logcally should've happened to Vergo the way he kicked Sanji land the way Sanji blocked, Vergo should've broken worse than this because Sanji blocked just this way where the bone and muscles of his shin bones are absolute strongest, and Vergo kicks even lower using his fucking ankle in the clash

which further proves none of his actual clashes was any serious because Sanji elusive been reduced to a pile of bones if a Vergo actually put any effort in the many panels where we see him

Sanji is the one monologuing about this later while Vergo has already forgotten about his existence.

Sanji was cucked bad
Lmao. What's this nonsense?

-Vergo damaged only Sanji's little fibula bone for one time (not even breaking), not even damaged his main tibia bone, let alone breaking.
-Anderson Silva broke his own foot completely, tibia, fibula everything.

Two huge differences Vergo fanboy. :milaugh:

If you like mma you should've known that Khabib beat Justin Gaethje with broken fingers on his foot. A fictional character Sanji could replicate that feat easily. Even Pre-TS Sanji beat Bon Clay with broken bones before.



Pre-Vergo fight Sanji was so damaged that he was even feeling Nami's punches before fighting with Vergo;



-- Chapter 678



--- Chapter 680

:goyea::goyea::goyea:
 
#97
Lmao. What's this nonsense?

-Vergo damaged only Sanji's fibula bone for one time, not even damaged his main tibia bone, let alone breaking.
-Anderson Silva broke his foot completely, tibia, fibula everything.

Two huge differences Vergo fanboy. :milaugh:

If you like mma you should've known that Khabib beat Justin Gaethje with broken fingers on his foot. A fictional character Sanji could replicate that feat easily. Even Pre-TS Sanji beat Bon Clay with broken bones before.



Pre-Vergo fight Sanji was so damaged that he was even feeling Nami's punches before fighting with Vergo;



-- Chapter 678



--- Chapter 680

:goyea::goyea::goyea:
Nice post.

Trolling aside. If people believe Sanji was full health against Vergo....than theyre just fallicious liars.
 
#98
Vergo can only damage Sanji's body for one time, if Sanji's body was previously damaged by Caesar Clown earlier due to body swapping with Nami.

Otherwise Vergo gets rekt, Sanji doesn't even need the suit.
Do you realise how nonsensical this statement is? Katakuri literally turned Mochi (the softest thing in the world) so hard that it made Luffy's hand hurt.



Is Sanji's body softer than Mochi? If your Haki is good enough, you should be able to block these attacks. Vergo's CoA was just >>> Sanji's CoA.

Sanji had 0 problem with the impact of DJ. Stop bsing like he was turned to moosh or something.

 
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