Future Events Will Oda really have the balls to end the Luffy show?
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Its relevant because he sees kaido as his own opponent not luffys, he is not supporting luffy like the rest of the crew hes here for kaido HIMSELF
So ? Luffys ties to wano are weak at best, he has no tie that zoro doesnt whilst zoro has way more.
tama -
He literally spent time training with momo -
even taught him sunnachi
apart from that luffys motivation to beat kaido is no different to kidds, its selfish because they both got clapped
Unlike luffy, zoros anger toward kaido has no personal reason to get famous from killing him, its all deep rooted from all his experience on wano.
Firstly oda has had zoro do the same things oden did in his flashback
save 26 year old hiyori/toki
faint
get nursed back by hiyori/toki
had hiyori/toki crying on them in almost identical fashion
zoro tamed odens sword only other person ever
both attacked orochi in anger
both times they were blocked
zoro is still following what oden did
ie he went to sneak and kill a drunk kaido
Now hes at the point that oden reached when he decided to kill kaido
as proven here
his target during the raid from the begining was kaido not orochi despite him hating orochi
even oden had no personal beef with kaido outside of him being orochi muscle
it was orochi who
- killed his dad
- attacked his wife and kids
- made deals with outsiders and ruined wano
he just realized the point as shinobu said killing orochi does nothing when kaidos there
then theres yasu the guy who was with oden in the flashback who made a bond with zoro who saved the alliance with his death
who zoro said hed avenge
YASU HIMSELF SAYS
FOR 20 LONG YEARS NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO TAKE KAIDOS HEAD GO TO ONIGASHIMA AVENGE YOUR FALLEN LIEGE
even yasu knew kaido was the real problem
Zoro has odens will he will finish the job oden failed to do and slay the dragon above the flower capital
zoro is doing no such thing, oda made a very clear difference between zoro and the rest of the strawhats when it comes to kaido
first zoro says
We wont last to fight kaido
from the start ZORO WAS AFTER KAIDO
this is nothing like dressrosa because not only is zoro paving luffys way to kaido like he did with pica he TOLD LUFFY TO TAKE HIM TO KAIDO IGNORING QUEEN
so no he doesnt consider this luffys fight at all
Then zoro separated from luffy whilst the others did this
now the other strawhats
first nami and ussop jump in to take page one and ulti away to pave the way for luffy
Then unlike zoro sanji and jinbe literally tell him they are there to make sure he has stamina for kaido and THEY ARE THERE TO PAVE THE WAY
oda literally moved zoro so he wasnt there to pave the way for luffy as you said and made sanji and jinbe do it instead
meanwhile zoro continues to say what HE is here for
and it has nothing to do with luffy
hes here to kill kaido on his own accord
So ? Luffys ties to wano are weak at best, he has no tie that zoro doesnt whilst zoro has way more.
tama -
He literally spent time training with momo -
even taught him sunnachi
apart from that luffys motivation to beat kaido is no different to kidds, its selfish because they both got clapped
Unlike luffy, zoros anger toward kaido has no personal reason to get famous from killing him, its all deep rooted from all his experience on wano.
Firstly oda has had zoro do the same things oden did in his flashback
save 26 year old hiyori/toki
faint
get nursed back by hiyori/toki
had hiyori/toki crying on them in almost identical fashion
zoro tamed odens sword only other person ever
both attacked orochi in anger
both times they were blocked
zoro is still following what oden did
ie he went to sneak and kill a drunk kaido
Now hes at the point that oden reached when he decided to kill kaido
as proven here
his target during the raid from the begining was kaido not orochi despite him hating orochi
even oden had no personal beef with kaido outside of him being orochi muscle
it was orochi who
- killed his dad
- attacked his wife and kids
- made deals with outsiders and ruined wano
he just realized the point as shinobu said killing orochi does nothing when kaidos there
then theres yasu the guy who was with oden in the flashback who made a bond with zoro who saved the alliance with his death
who zoro said hed avenge
YASU HIMSELF SAYS
FOR 20 LONG YEARS NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO TAKE KAIDOS HEAD GO TO ONIGASHIMA AVENGE YOUR FALLEN LIEGE
even yasu knew kaido was the real problem
Zoro has odens will he will finish the job oden failed to do and slay the dragon above the flower capital
zoro is doing no such thing, oda made a very clear difference between zoro and the rest of the strawhats when it comes to kaido
first zoro says
We wont last to fight kaido
from the start ZORO WAS AFTER KAIDO
this is nothing like dressrosa because not only is zoro paving luffys way to kaido like he did with pica he TOLD LUFFY TO TAKE HIM TO KAIDO IGNORING QUEEN
so no he doesnt consider this luffys fight at all
Then zoro separated from luffy whilst the others did this
now the other strawhats
first nami and ussop jump in to take page one and ulti away to pave the way for luffy
Then unlike zoro sanji and jinbe literally tell him they are there to make sure he has stamina for kaido and THEY ARE THERE TO PAVE THE WAY
oda literally moved zoro so he wasnt there to pave the way for luffy as you said and made sanji and jinbe do it instead
meanwhile zoro continues to say what HE is here for
and it has nothing to do with luffy
hes here to kill kaido on his own accord
Give him a chance.
No especially not this arc
Luffy's promise is to become a great pirate the same thing yonko are and Roger was and then meeting Shanks
This meeting as Shanks said is close i think next arc the elbaf arc will be when it happens so Luffy has to leave this arc with as much credit as he can get and be known and accepted as a truly great pirate
Luffy's promise is to become a great pirate the same thing yonko are and Roger was and then meeting Shanks
This meeting as Shanks said is close i think next arc the elbaf arc will be when it happens so Luffy has to leave this arc with as much credit as he can get and be known and accepted as a truly great pirate
Oda pulled the same shit at Dressrosa.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
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Yes he has lol
Ok if you seen that video why did you say their no forshadowing. I can say other things that more recent
* It's more useful than the FS which appears for less than 1% of the total fight.
* Nameless slash>KKG, deal with it.
* Zoro hasnt had his haki broken by hakiless fodder like Hody Jones, try again.
* Zoro just casually blitzed Queen from a mile away, he didnt even see it coming. Katakuri saw Snakeman coming even without FS.
* Nameless slash>KKG, deal with it.
* Zoro hasnt had his haki broken by hakiless fodder like Hody Jones, try again.
* Zoro just casually blitzed Queen from a mile away, he didnt even see it coming. Katakuri saw Snakeman coming even without FS.
when it comes to zoro there’s never been an instance where Oda would drag zoro and Downgrade him like you all believe. some scenarios come to mind for example back in fmi. He had zoro bodybag the villain before luffy heck luffy and Sanji needed blood transfusions while zoro never. theres tb too,baratie. Zoro beating pica made anything luffy did look like peanuts. see if oda is afraid to give shine to zoro because of luffy why didn’t he have zoro on the sidelines protecting tama while luffy beats Hawkins instead we got otherwise. There’s more but Oda simply doesnt hold back zoro when he has the chance he lets him show out. zkk doesn't fall to luffy.. zoro is a mc too he matters just as much
I like how you can’t counter any of my points...you just say random things like deal with it lmao
luffy used fs multiple times in Udon helping hyougoro using it fairly easy.. just stop it
*if queen didn’t see it coming then you just proved my point...it was a sneak attack and queen wasn’t even paying attention.
like you said katakuri SAW IT COMING and still didn’t know what hit him. Point proven thanks
luffy used fs multiple times in Udon helping hyougoro using it fairly easy.. just stop it
*if queen didn’t see it coming then you just proved my point...it was a sneak attack and queen wasn’t even paying attention.
like you said katakuri SAW IT COMING and still didn’t know what hit him. Point proven thanks
I like how you can’t counter any of my points...you just say random things like deal with it lmao
luffy used fs multiple times in Udon helping hyougoro using it fairly easy.. just stop it
*if queen didn’t see it coming then you just proved my point...it was a sneak attack and queen wasn’t even paying attention.
like you said katakuri SAW IT COMING and still didn’t know what hit him. Point proven thanks
luffy used fs multiple times in Udon helping hyougoro using it fairly easy.. just stop it
*if queen didn’t see it coming then you just proved my point...it was a sneak attack and queen wasn’t even paying attention.
like you said katakuri SAW IT COMING and still didn’t know what hit him. Point proven thanks
Yes, yes, he used FS on fodder while not using it ever when he was clowned, lmao.
Wrong, lol. Queen was looking straight at him, lmao.
No, Katakuri didnt see it in future sight until he decided to watch why he gets hit. He saw it coming without FS, that's how slow it is, lol.
Imagine thinking luffys biggest moment this arc being playing second fiddle to a side character in his only fight in this arc against kaido. With it being a group fight at that
A fight that has been built up since punk hazard
And imagine thinking its good writing just because luffy doesn't shine
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A fight that has been built up since punk hazard
And imagine thinking its good writing just because luffy doesn't shine
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Those don’t count...zoro didn’t mean to kill them the slash was meant for Hawkins.
Why do you people keep bringing up the dragon? You do know that luffy has also killed animals right?
also like I said above zoro had no intention of killing Hawkins subordinates. These are pretty bad examples if this all you have
Zoro ain't Law bro, Zoro going to accomplish his dream. I seriously wonder why people think other characters are more important than Luffy right hand man and trigger of one piece. All these years when people thought the supernova captains were going to be more important and relevant than Zoro. Lmfao Get it through yall heads Its Luffy first then the SH and then everybody else.
Yes he has lol
Ok if you seen that video why did you say their no forshadowing. I can say other things that more recent
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Yes he has lol
Ok if you seen that video why did you say their no forshadowing. I can say other things that more recent
also like I said above zoro had no intention of killing Hawkins subordinates. These are pretty bad examples if this all you have