Future Events Will Oda really have the balls to end the Luffy show?

[Sword God Ryuma]

Those don’t count...zoro didn’t mean to kill them the slash was meant for Hawkins.

Why do you people keep bringing up the dragon? You do know that luffy has also killed animals right?
also like I said above zoro had no intention of killing Hawkins subordinates. These are pretty bad

So he had intentions of killing Hawkins? Lol he still killed them. You said their was no panels and i provided you woth them. Why did you say their was no evidence

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

No. Luffy is the main character and always will be. No other characters would overshadow Luffy.

 

[yj]

No. Luffy is the main character and always will be. No other characters would overshadow Luffy.

good thing zoro is a mc too. He’s already been overshadowing the dumb condom in onigashima and wano.Zoro bodied the musical instrument that put luffy to sleep

 

[Kuruka]

So he had intentions of killing Hawkins? Lol he still killed them. You said their was no panels and i provided you woth them. Why did you say their was no evidence

Well I’ll concede that there are panels but what meaning do they have when you can’t prove that zoro is some supposed ”killer” when he didn’t even mean to kill them in the first place. Also that slash would likely not kill Hawkins since he’s not as weak as fodder.
you’re trying to provide evidence that zoro will kill kaido so doesnt that meant he has to show “intent” to kill him?
and even so these are all noname fodder why hasn’t it ever been an important antagonist?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

good thing zoro is a mc too. He’s already been overshadowing the dumb condom in onigashima and wano.Zoro bodied the musical instrument that put luffy to sleep

But Luffy stands out the most though

 

[yj]

But Luffy stands out the most though

nah it’s factual. he can stand out but there isn’t a rule book that says no one can overshadow him

 

[Date]

Yeah, Zoro defeat Kaido while Luffy the protagonist will fight Black Tooth, Beetle Gifter and Tama Baboon who is a traitor and the mastermind behind the Beast Pirates, make total sense in Piece Two, the manga that the zorotrds read every week.

 

[Shisui]

Zoro ain't Law bro, Zoro going to accomplish his dream. I seriously wonder why people think other characters are more important than Luffy right hand man and trigger of one piece. All these years when people thought the supernova captains were going to be more important and relevant than Zoro. Lmfao Get it through yall heads Its Luffy first then the SH and then everybody else.

All I said was Oda pulled the same shit at Dressrosa.... I have outright said I want Zoro with the scabbards to defeat Kaido...Do I honestly believe it would happen...no way. Not after 1000 chapters. He had his chance at Dressrosa and he blew it.

 

[Kuruka]

Yes, you need to deal with things that are obvious and dont need to be argued, nameless slash>KKG.
Yes, yes, he used FS on fodder while not using it ever when he was clowned, lmao.
Wrong, lol. Queen was looking straight at him, lmao.
No, Katakuri didnt see it in future sight until he decided to watch why he gets hit. He saw it coming without FS, that's how slow it is, lol.

* yes because you CANT counter my point lol. I need to deal with nameless slash>KKG?
* he did it with hyou,katakuri,with sanji vs apoo at this point you in denial.
* you literally just said queen wasn’t expecting it...you contracticting yourself now?
Katakuri did see in the future the first hit but he didn’t see the second one go back and read it.

 

[Bogard]

This panel literally contradicted your entire argument. Notice how he says "we won't last to actually fight Kaido", not himself. That shows that he is including Luffy in the battle, which goes back to my initial point that Zoro saying he wants to slice up Kaido is to foreshadow the fact he'd wound him like Oden did, but will not actually be the one to beat him, since it'd be Luffy

Zoro knows Luffy will also be up there. Obviously Zoro wants to slice Kaido, but he also knows that Kaido is Luffy's opponent.

All Zoro said is he wants to slice to Kaido because he is rumored as the strongest. But slicing up Kaido and beating him are two things different. Zoro will accomplish his wish(slicing up Kaido), which will be used as a parallel to Oden's scar, but the one who'd beat him is Luffy

Also
> Zoro training with Momonosuke isn't even comparable to Luffy taking Momonosuke's mantle to beat up Kaido for him
> Zoro's connection with Tama is nothing compared to Luffy's connection with her. Luffy is the one who made the promise to Tama to liberate Wano by accomplishing Ace's will, he is the one Tama views as the older brother like she did with Ace

With that said, i never said Zoro had no connections to Kaido this arc. Infact, i could show you an old post of mine where i said, Zoro's development in the arc was comparable to Luffy's(especially with his connection with Hiyori and Yasu), but as far as Kaido is concerned, it's nothing comparable. Infact before Zoro's statement about slicing Kaido in latest chapter, his intentions weren't that clear, especially when before the raid, he was aiming for Orochi instead. In Luffy's case on the other hand, it's something Oda took his time to build up since Luffy defeated Doflamingo in dressrosa, to the point he actually stated he was thinking of ways for Luffy to beat Kaido even before the events of WCI

And as stated above, Zoro includes Luffy in the equation of the fight against Kaido because he knows Kaido is Luffy's opponent, will do everything in his power to help to defeat Kaido, with his contribution being either reopening Kaido's scar or creating a new one(hence his claim of wanting to slice Kaido), but will ultimately leave the task of beating Kaido to Luffy because he respects his captain and his dream.

 

[nik87]

* yes because you CANT counter my point lol. I need to deal with nameless slash>KKG?
* he did it with hyou,katakuri,with sanji vs apoo at this point you in denial.
* you literally just said queen wasn’t expecting it...you contracticting yourself now?
Katakuri did see in the future the first hit but he didn’t see the second one go back and read it.

* I dont need to counter anything, you have the same manga panels like I do, all you have to do is look at them.
* Yes, he used it 3 times out of 100 scenes. Thanks for proving my point, lmao.
* I am not contradicting myself at all but you are losing it, lol. I said Queen didnt even see it coming.
* No, he didnt use FS for the first Snakeman hit otherwise he would see what happened, lol. You go back and read it.

 

[Shisui]

good thing zoro is a mc too. He’s already been overshadowing the dumb condom in onigashima and wano.Zoro bodied the musical instrument that put luffy to sleep

You do know the same instrument took down an admiral right?
Luffy is the Primary MC..even his hat has its own story.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Well I’ll concede that there are panels but what meaning do they have when you can’t prove that zoro is some supposed ”killer” when he didn’t even mean to kill them in the first place. Also that slash would likely not kill Hawkins since he’s not as weak as fodder.
you’re trying to provide evidence that zoro will kill kaido so doesnt that meant he has to show “intent” to kill him?
and even so these are all noname fodder why hasn’t it ever been an important antagonist?

Now you trying to move the goal post. Lol I already provided with the panels. Zoro is forshadowed to kill him since punk hazard with help from Luffy

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This panel literally contradicted your entire argument. Notice how he says "we won't last to actually fight Kaido", not himself. That shows that he is including Luffy in the battle, which goes back to my initial point that Zoro saying he wants to slice up Kaido is to foreshadow the fact he'd wound him like Oden did, but will not actually be the one to beat him, since it'd be Luffy


All Zoro said is he wants to slice to Kaido because he is rumored as the strongest. But slicing up Kaido and beating him are two things different. Zoro will accomplish his wish(slicing up Kaido), which will be used as a parallel to Oden's scar, but the one who'd beat him is Luffy

Also
> Zoro training with Momonosuke isn't even comparable to Luffy taking Momonosuke's mantle to beat up Kaido for him
> Zoro's connection with Tama is nothing compared to Luffy's connection with her. Luffy is the one who made the promise to Tama to liberate Wano by accomplishing Ace's will, he is the one Tama views as the older brother like she did with Ace

With that said, i never said Zoro had no connections to Kaido this arc. Infact, i could show you an old post of mine where i said, Zoro's development in the arc was comparable to Luffy's(especially with his connection with Hiyori and Yasu), but as far as Kaido is concerned, it's nothing comparable. Infact before Zoro's statement about slicing Kaido in latest chapter, his intentions weren't that clear, especially when before the raid, he was aiming for Orochi instead. In Luffy's case on the other hand, it's something Oda took his time to build up since Luffy defeated Doflamingo in dressrosa, to the point he actually stated he was thinking of ways for Luffy to beat Kaido even before the events of WCI

And as stated above, Zoro includes Luffy in the equation of the fight against Kaido because he knows Kaido is Luffy's opponent, will do everything in his power to help to defeat Kaido, with his contribution being either reopening Kaido's scar or creating a new one(hence his claim of wanting to slice Kaido), but will ultimately leave the task of beating Kaido to Luffy because he respects his captain and his dream.

Luffy literally doesn't care if Zoro helps him. LUFFY WAS GOING TO KILL BM WITH CAPONE. Why do you keep making this point like your actually making sense. This isn't a Mihawk and Zoro situation. Luffy can jump Kaido here and still become PK

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This panel literally contradicted your entire argument. Notice how he says "we won't last to actually fight Kaido", not himself. That shows that he is including Luffy in the battle, which goes back to my initial point that Zoro saying he wants to slice up Kaido is to foreshadow the fact he'd wound him like Oden did, but will not actually be the one to beat him, since it'd be Luffy


All Zoro said is he wants to slice to Kaido because he is rumored as the strongest. But slicing up Kaido and beating him are two things different. Zoro will accomplish his wish(slicing up Kaido), which will be used as a parallel to Oden's scar, but the one who'd beat him is Luffy

Also
> Zoro training with Momonosuke isn't even comparable to Luffy taking Momonosuke's mantle to beat up Kaido for him
> Zoro's connection with Tama is nothing compared to Luffy's connection with her. Luffy is the one who made the promise to Tama to liberate Wano by accomplishing Ace's will, he is the one Tama views as the older brother like she did with Ace

With that said, i never said Zoro had no connections to Kaido this arc. Infact, i could show you an old post of mine where i said, Zoro's development in the arc was comparable to Luffy's(especially with his connection with Hiyori and Yasu), but as far as Kaido is concerned, it's nothing comparable. Infact before Zoro's statement about slicing Kaido in latest chapter, his intentions weren't that clear, especially when before the raid, he was aiming for Orochi instead. In Luffy's case on the other hand, it's something Oda took his time to build up since Luffy defeated Doflamingo in dressrosa, to the point he actually stated he was thinking of ways for Luffy to beat Kaido even before the events of WCI

And as stated above, Zoro includes Luffy in the equation of the fight against Kaido because he knows Kaido is Luffy's opponent, will do everything in his power to help to defeat Kaido, with his contribution being either reopening Kaido's scar or creating a new one(hence his claim of wanting to slice Kaido), but will ultimately leave the task of beating Kaido to Luffy because he respects his captain and his dream.

Look at the guy you said cares so much if his right hand helps him. Coming up with a plan with Capone(who would deliver the finishing blow)

But but but i taught you knew his "character"

 

[Bogard]

Now you trying to move the goal post. Lol I already provided with the panels. Zoro is forshadowed to kill him since punk hazard with help from Luffy

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Luffy literally doesn't care if Zoro helps him. LUFFY WAS GOING TO KILL BM WITH CAPONE. Why do you keep making this point like your actually making sense. This isn't a Mihawk and Zoro situation. Luffy can jump Kaido here and still become PK

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Look at the guy you said cares so much if his right hand helps him. Coming up with a plan with Capone(who would deliver the finishing blow)

But but but i taught you knew his "character"

First of all, i never said Luffy had any problems if someone helped him. I even used the Oars battle as an example where the SHs fought as a team

Secondly, stop quoting me with garbage arguments

 

[HA001]

This panel literally contradicted your entire argument. Notice how he says "we won't last to actually fight Kaido", not himself. That shows that he is including Luffy in the battle, which goes back to my initial point that Zoro saying he wants to slice up Kaido is to foreshadow the fact he'd wound him like Oden did, but will not actually be the one to beat him, since it'd be Luffy

Lmfao why are you lying for, hes saying WE because its him and luffy there at that moment being attacked context. He said i enough times.
Once again which you ignored in the japanese raws zoro said the same thing about the punk hazard dragon as he did to kaido so no he didnt say im here to wound kaido at all.

Also
> Zoro training with Momonosuke isn't even comparable to Luffy taking Momonosuke's mantle to beat up Kaido for him
> Zoro's connection with Tama is nothing compared to Luffy's connection with her. Luffy is the one who made the promise to Tama to liberate Wano by accomplishing Ace's will, he is the one Tama views as the older brother like she did with Ace

momo like the rest of wano doesnt want kaido beat up
he wants him dead
luffys connections to wano are nothing compared to zoros
zoro is literally as i have proven mirroring oden

And as stated above, Zoro includes Luffy in the equation of the fight against Kaido because he knows Kaido is Luffy's opponent, will do everything in his power to help to defeat Kaido, with his contribution being either reopening Kaido's scar or creating a new one(hence his claim of wanting to slice Kaido), but will ultimately leave the task of beating Kaido to Luffy because he respects his captain and his dream.

this is again a lie hes going up to kill kaido hes not leaving anything up to luffy like the rest of the crew are AS I HAVE PROVEN
hes going up there to do it himself.

 

[Kuruka]

Now you trying to move the goal post. Lol I already provided with the panels. Zoro is forshadowed to kill him since punk hazard with help from Luffy

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Luffy literally doesn't care if Zoro helps him. LUFFY WAS GOING TO KILL BM WITH CAPONE. Why do you keep making this point like your actually making sense. This isn't a Mihawk and Zoro situation. Luffy can jump Kaido here and still become PK

the goal was to prove zoro intends to kill kaido right?...when did I move that? youre getting stuck on an irrelevant semantical points. why does zoro unintentionally killing noname fodder even matter if youre trying to prove hes going to kill kaido.

 

[spawn]

Who's gotten the better showing in Wano so far?
Luffy or Zoro?

Who's had the better moments?
Who's been a bigger focus?
Luffy or Zoro?

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

First of all, i never said Luffy had any problems if someone helped him. I even used the Oars battle as an example where the SHs fought as a team

Secondly, stop quoting me with garbage arguments

Your arguments are garbage, you said Zoro won't help Luffy because of Luffy dream. That was your garbage argument. When Luffy and Zoro both have stakes with beating Kaido. This isn't going against Luffy Dream. CAPONE WAS GOING TO KILL BM.

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Who's gotten the better showing in Wano so far?
Luffy or Zoro?

Who's had the better moments?
Who's been a bigger focus?
Luffy or Zoro?

Luffy and Zoro had equal focus this arc. Just like WCI for Luffy and Sanji where Sanji handled the Youkou situation.

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Luffy-Told Momo he will help defeat Kaido
Wants to help Otama
Wants to defeat Youkous anyways.
Inherited Oden Will
Wants to helpWano people
Zoro- Wants to help Hyori
Wants to avenge Yasuie
Fighting against his literal code( He doesn't like to fight for revenge)
Inherited Oden will
Has relationship with people of leftover town
Wants to see Tama eat

They literally have the same motivation

 

[Kurodiamondo]

Could be if it the best emotional plot

We already saw that luffy wait for kinemon n co to deal the first blow

But I think the scenario is that luffy do the final blow to beat kaido. Later on, if zoro ask luffy so he will handle kaido for execution, I guess luffy will let zoro be in charge of the kaido execution after the war end

 

[Hades]

good thing zoro is a mc too. He’s already been overshadowing the dumb condom in onigashima and wano.Zoro bodied the musical instrument that put luffy to sleep

the dumb algae got one chapter in like 10-15 chapters and you act like he overshadowed the whole raid....isn't it premature to conclude before even the raid ends.....I mean you people were underground before chapter 997....Zoro bodied the musical instrument while musical instrument was busy with Drake...