the most important thing is whether yamato already had bounty or carrot defeat/badly hurt perospero and get her first bounty. whoever get bounty in the end of wano will 100% join.
and in this case I still think carrot has the upper hand, at least until now.
the most important thing is whether yamato already had bounty or carrot defeat/badly hurt perospero and get her first bounty. whoever get bounty in the end of wano will 100% join.
and in this case I still think carrot has the upper hand, at least until now.
I don’t think the bounty thing should be a factor for either of them; Robin, Brook, and Jinbe are the only ones who had a bounty before joining, and Franky got his in the same arc that he first allied with Luffy. A potential crewmate’s numerical value isn’t important to the captain whatsoever.
I don’t think the bounty thing should be a factor for either of them; Robin, Brook, and Jinbe are the only ones who has a bounty before joining, and Franky got his in the same arc that he first allied with Luffy. A potential crewmate’s numerical value isn’t important to the captain whatsoever.
Real. I feel like bounty, as a concept, tends to get misunderstood. Like it equates to power level or acclaim. I always thought it was much more that all your bounty reflected was to what degree you were a threat to the world government. And the whole thing with Luffy and the WG is that they're doing shit no one has ever done before. It's unprecedented. It's a whole generation of sleeper powerhouses and world changers. So of course having a previous bounty shouldn't matter for new crew members.
Real. I feel like bounty, as a concept, tends to get misunderstood. Like it equates to power level or acclaim. I always thought it was much more that all your bounty reflected was to what degree you were a threat to the world government. And the whole thing with Luffy and the WG is that they're doing shit no one has ever done before. It's unprecedented. It's a whole generation of sleeper powerhouses and world changers. So of course having a previous bounty shouldn't matter for new crew members.
Definitely how I’ve always understood it as well; Dragon’s the most wanted man in the world not because he’s (likely) super powerful or famous, but because his goals directly concern the complete destruction of the world’s largest political organization. The fact that Luffy’s now recruited a few folks who happen to have high prices on their heads is more a testament to his reputation, it just goes to show he can charm notorious people to his cause.
Definitely how I’ve always understood it as well; Dragon’s the most wanted man in the world not because he’s (likely) super powerful or famous, but because his goals directly concern the complete destruction of the world’s largest political organization. The fact that Luffy’s now recruited a few folks who happen to have high prices on their heads is more a testament to his reputation, it just goes to show he can charm notorious people to his cause.
Yeah, Dragon is I always who I think about in this discussion. He probably is one of the strongest people, but it doesn't have anything directly to do with bounty.
Trying to predict the next Straw Hat is always hella hard because of this. Like, part of me thinks Yamato because of the parallel to Oden, but the whole point of the story is to reject parallels with previous generations, lol.
I don’t think the bounty thing should be a factor for either of them; Robin, Brook, and Jinbe are the only ones who had a bounty before joining, and Franky got his in the same arc that he first allied with Luffy. A potential crewmate’s numerical value isn’t important to the captain whatsoever.
if it's still in grand line or earlier arc then yea it's no need to have bounty before. but im sure oda set all the strawhats to have bounty in EoS that's why he made every new strawhat to have bounty since water seven and with how close one piece to ending, im sure the next strawhat must have bounty in this arc too.
if it's still in grand line or earlier arc then yea it's no need to have bounty before. but im sure oda set all the strawhats to have bounty in EoS that's why he made every new strawhat to have bounty since water seven and with how close one piece to ending, im sure the next strawhat must have bounty in this arc too.
How are you sure, though? I don’t see how bounties have really affected the story, other than justifying the Supernovae existences or catapulting Luffy into the stratosphere after WCI...moreover, Luffy himself has never seemed all that impressed with his bounty or anyone else’s, so it doesn’t seem like whether someone has a price on their head or not is all that important when considering new crew mates. It’s possible Yamato could have a bounty if she’s a known quantity to the WG, but if not, I highly doubt that’ll be the reason she doesn’t join the crew.
Roger needed Oden because he was necessary to translate the Poenglyphs because that was his role on the Oro Jackson...which is what Robin does right now. It's what helped him get to Laugh Tale, discover the One Piece, and become the Pirate King. Roger begged Whitebeard to have Oden not for his strength, but for his selfish goal of becoming the Pirate King. Oden was just compelled to help him and had his own curiosity to it.
A lot of you guys need to actually read the Oden flashback. There's a lot of lore in the series I feel this thread tends to overlook.
That's exactly what I'm trying to say... Roger needed Oden's skills, not the power... But this time, the SHP needs Yamato's power, not the skills (since they lack numbers, they have to compensate with power)... Though to be fair, we don't know what else can Yamato provide aside from VC making and some Kozuki knowledge...
Straw Hat Pirates' quantity is mostly a disadvantage, however they compensate it by having quality.
This is why I like & prefer Yamato joining, she can make the crew be truly worthy of Pirate King class/level. Only this way Luffy crew can surpass Shanks crew (his ch 1 promise to Shanks).
That very same reason is why I don't think Carrot joining, we haven't seen one unique skill of hers that are very high tier.
Lookout? Nah, a good lookout can see Daifuku's genie approaching Sunny...
Sulong unique? Nah, Chopper's transformations are still superior than a once in a blue moon transformation...
Good fighter? Nah, she's just as good as base Franky, Brook and Robin... Plus no Haki, a common buff in the NW...
Design unique? Nah, as Luffy mentioned, minks are bunch of "Chopper"... He only showed interest with Inu and Neko...
Pedro's will? Ah yes, the one related to the dawn? Pedro started the poneglyph search as it is his way, he failed to obtain a copy of BM's, Carrot survived alongside the copy he failed to get, now she needs to continue that will to search for more poneglyphs in other regions (that way, Carrot can explore the world by going to the blue seas and Paradise) and not to join the SHs (who are going to Laugh Tale, not Paradise or whatever blue sea)...
the most important thing is whether yamato already had bounty or carrot defeat/badly hurt perospero and get her first bounty. whoever get bounty in the end of wano will 100% join.
and in this case I still think carrot has the upper hand, at least until now.
Bounties are non-bearing... Besides, if Carrot is bound to get a bounty then she should've gotten one during WCI (association alone can give you a bounty)...
if it's still in grand line or earlier arc then yea it's no need to have bounty before. but im sure oda set all the strawhats to have bounty in EoS that's why he made every new strawhat to have bounty since water seven and with how close one piece to ending, im sure the next strawhat must have bounty in this arc too.
Is it about the concern of the bounty amount of the next recruit? Yamato being unbound right now, she's guaranteed to get a bounty (a high one given her background) since she can freely go anywhere now... Plus if she joins the crew, she'll later on get massive bounty boost...
if it's still in grand line or earlier arc then yea it's no need to have bounty before. but im sure oda set all the strawhats to have bounty in EoS that's why he made every new strawhat to have bounty since water seven and with how close one piece to ending, im sure the next strawhat must have bounty in this arc too.
I dont really get the point of this next sh needs bounty.
I might even agree if its power that we re talking about here. If a real newbie and had little to no power will join, then that's a big no.
But if it s a character who is shown formidable but no bounty, then i dont see any problem with that. He or she can get his or her bounty upon joining.
And if we re talking about Yamato here, the mere fact that that shes kaido daughter should assure you that she ll get a bounty once the navy know her existence.
Btw, here's my personal note about Yamato so far, about her joining SH
+ is a pro
- is a con
* can be a pro or con
? unknown / misc / random
+ 1-on-1 moment with Luffy
+ Unique (color scheme, weapon choice)
+ A standout character among/around the home/origin area
+ Battled & fought against enemy alongside SH crew
+ Backstory & dreams revealed
* Connection to fight BB Pirates (Moria, Ace)
* Trusted & ordered by Luffy to protect someone important (similar to Franky's case)
* Bonds with Ace
* Knows Luffy years before other SH
* Linked to Luffy since Alabasta via Ace's Vivre Card
+ Strong female combatant
* Asked to join
* Knowledge of Dawn & Will of the D
- No flashback yet
- No role yet
- Synergy between role, fighting style, and dreams
? If she has byakko (mythical cat fruit), it can be a parallel to Devon mythical dog fruit.
? Might be too strong for SH
? If her fruit is Byakko, then it fits the 2.9 DF naming
? Her role may be the long lost stonemason
? If she knows Oden nitoryu, we can get complete 1, 2, and 3 sword users
I assume you're already familiar with the Devil Fruit number theory.
If you haven't, it's based on a SBS.
56 (Gomu) + 110 (Hito) + 87 (Hana) + 43 (Yomi) + 29 (???) = 325 (Sanigo = Sunny-go = what the crew call the ship)
Byakko, the White Tiger, will be categorized as Cat Cat fruit, or Neko Neko no Mi.
From some sources I've read, Neko can be read as 2.9, the missing number.
Oh, and Yamato is "caged" to Onigashima. She hasn't show up "outside/WG territory" officially. Because of this, it makes sense if she doesn't have a bounty (because she's not a threat to the WG/hasn't oppose WF/hasn't damage WG interest etc)
However being the daughter of a Yonko can also make her to get a bounty, so it also makes sense too if she have a bounty.
Conclusion, Yamato having or not having bounty may affect your personal preference/requirements/narrative, but it won't take away anything from her chance.
I assume you're already familiar with the Devil Fruit number theory.
If you haven't, it's based on a SBS.
56 (Gomu) + 110 (Hito) + 87 (Hana) + 43 (Yomi) + 29 (???) = 325 (Sanigo = Sunny-go = what the crew call the ship)
Byakko, the White Tiger, will be categorized as Cat Cat fruit, or Neko Neko no Mi.
From some sources I've read, Neko can be read as 2.9, the missing number.
Oh, and Yamato is "caged" to Onigashima. She hasn't show up "outside/WG territory" officially. Because of this, it makes sense if she doesn't have a bounty (because she's not a threat to the WG/hasn't oppose WF/hasn't damage WG interest etc)
However being the daughter of a Yonko can also make her to get a bounty, so it also makes sense too if she have a bounty.
Conclusion, Yamato having or not having bounty may affect your personal preference/requirements/narrative, but it won't take away anything from her chance.
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