One Piece Chapter 1001 : The Decisive Battle of Monsters on Onigashima

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Okay so I just read the chapter, and since @Topi Jerami
Oda in 2018: “I feel like fans would be disappointed if Luffy defeated Kaido because his punch was so strong. Luffy and I will have to put our heads together to find something more creative.”

If 2018 Oda could see himself in 2021, I wonder what he would be thinking, given that Luffy’s entire Wano character arc involves him just getting stronger punches, and the final Chapter 1000/Chapter 1001 moment where he and Kaido begin their battle just involves every character fan-gasming about how strong Luffy’s punch is and the fact that a punch would work on Kaido.

Oda has failed to live up to his own standard that he set for himself, objectively. Once again Oda shows that he is fantastic at creating hype but utterly abysmal at following through with said hype, and really the entirety of Wano has been a testament to that point, with this moment here as the best example.

This is it guys. Luffy’s entire arc in Wano was just getting a stronger punch. There wasn’t really anything else to it. Even Zoro’s whole story in Wano was just Enma and not much else. The entire rest of the story was devoted to Oden and the Scabbards, and was poorly executed at that because most don’t care about the scabbards and were just waiting on Zoro and Luffy to enter the scene anyway.

Wano is the One Piece arc that keeps on disappointing, non-stop. Anyway, not a terrible chapter, but not really a good one either lol.
It's not just a strength/ grit upgrade, his technique and haki proficiency has had to increase dramatically.
This is a fighting manga, power ups are a necessity, Oda just didn't want the power ups to come from nowhere.
 
oh my little troll

Are you really that desperate?


:cheers:
Did u see the blood spreading after Zoro used Rengoku onigiri gainst Killer ? :pepecorn:


Zoro passed through Kaido and there is blood in the side he attacked Kaido and other drop spreading and fallen .
:pepecorn:

Killer with no blood above his sickles or near his attack while Zoro blood is drawn in the middle .


:pepecafe:

Sanji damage output was drawn above his kick against pacifista :feelsokeman:


Orochi blood is above King sword when kaido slashed him :pepecafe:



Kid needs to crash and killer needs to slash but they did nothing interesting :pepecorn:
 
What a great chapter,this one should have been 1000.

Kid fucking robot looks awesome!:steef:

Zoro and Killer did awesome combo attack!:steef:


Just little bit pissed that Oda didn't make Law use some better attack,then trowing rocks at Kaido.

Love Kaido's lust for battle and that speech that he will take everything from them was good.

Now the thing is to remove BM from the battlefield,because she looks totally out of place there or to bring more people on the roof,since those 5 look screwed if they face them two together.
 
Can i say Kid looks like shit?
He is reaching very dangerous disappointment levels.

Okay so I just read the chapter, and since @Topi Jerami tagged me, two things:

1. We know Kaido has already been defeated by weaker members of the Navy than the Admirals, so Kaido not bringing up an Admiral here is irrelevant, especially because we already know that people like Oden and Shanks are weaker than them anyway.

2. Luffy is a Pirate, trying to become the Pirate King, so of course Kaido isn’t going to perceive him as being similar to an Admiral who don’t share that ambition lol. The Admirals already embarrassed the strongest Yonko at Marineford, there is no reason to remind us that they are above mere Kaido lol.

Anyway, kind of a disappointing chapter like I said in the spoiler thread. Nothing really happened worth talking about except for Kidd’s new form, which didn’t seem to have much effect on Kaido at all really.

But I’d once again like to bring up my disappointment with Wano, which never stops letting me down.

Oda in 2018: “I feel like fans would be disappointed if Luffy defeated Kaido because his punch was so strong. Luffy and I will have to put our heads together to find something more creative.”

If 2018 Oda could see himself in 2021, I wonder what he would be thinking, given that Luffy’s entire Wano character arc involves him just getting stronger punches, and the final Chapter 1000/Chapter 1001 moment where he and Kaido begin their battle just involves every character fan-gasming about how strong Luffy’s punch is and the fact that a punch would work on Kaido.

Oda has failed to live up to his own standard that he set for himself, objectively. Once again Oda shows that he is fantastic at creating hype but utterly abysmal at following through with said hype, and really the entirety of Wano has been a testament to that point, with this moment here as the best example.

This is it guys. Luffy’s entire arc in Wano was just getting a stronger punch. There wasn’t really anything else to it. Even Zoro’s whole story in Wano was just Enma and not much else. The entire rest of the story was devoted to Oden and the Scabbards, and was poorly executed at that because most don’t care about the scabbards and were just waiting on Zoro and Luffy to enter the scene anyway.

Wano is the One Piece arc that keeps on disappointing, non-stop. Anyway, not a terrible chapter, but not really a good one either lol.
That´s not really it, the challenge was to bypass the scales, his punch being stronger is just a by-effect. Basically Oda did the same as vs Logias only on a higher level (and it seems like mostly applying to brawlers), you need a prerequisite to fight him, at least with physical damage. For Logias it was CoA in general, for Kaidou its advcoa.

Still unoriginal of course.
 
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Jo_Ndule

Okay so I just read the chapter, and since @Topi Jerami tagged me, two things:

1. We know Kaido has already been defeated by weaker members of the Navy than the Admirals, so Kaido not bringing up an Admiral here is irrelevant, especially because we already know that people like Oden and Shanks are weaker than them anyway.

2. Luffy is a Pirate, trying to become the Pirate King, so of course Kaido isn’t going to perceive him as being similar to an Admiral who don’t share that ambition lol. The Admirals already embarrassed the strongest Yonko at Marineford, there is no reason to remind us that they are above mere Kaido lol.

Anyway, kind of a disappointing chapter like I said in the spoiler thread. Nothing really happened worth talking about except for Kidd’s new form, which didn’t seem to have much effect on Kaido at all really.

But I’d once again like to bring up my disappointment with Wano, which never stops letting me down.

Oda in 2018: “I feel like fans would be disappointed if Luffy defeated Kaido because his punch was so strong. Luffy and I will have to put our heads together to find something more creative.”

If 2018 Oda could see himself in 2021, I wonder what he would be thinking, given that Luffy’s entire Wano character arc involves him just getting stronger punches, and the final Chapter 1000/Chapter 1001 moment where he and Kaido begin their battle just involves every character fan-gasming about how strong Luffy’s punch is and the fact that a punch would work on Kaido.

Oda has failed to live up to his own standard that he set for himself, objectively. Once again Oda shows that he is fantastic at creating hype but utterly abysmal at following through with said hype, and really the entirety of Wano has been a testament to that point, with this moment here as the best example.

This is it guys. Luffy’s entire arc in Wano was just getting a stronger punch. There wasn’t really anything else to it. Even Zoro’s whole story in Wano was just Enma and not much else. The entire rest of the story was devoted to Oden and the Scabbards, and was poorly executed at that because most don’t care about the scabbards and were just waiting on Zoro and Luffy to enter the scene anyway.

Wano is the One Piece arc that keeps on disappointing, non-stop. Anyway, not a terrible chapter, but not really a good one either lol.
Typical Navy greatest Wanler on the forum

But yeah Wano has been subpar
Oda has failed to deliver
 
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Gorosei Informer

I think Law is D. to make him more relevant to the plot while Kid already had hype going around him with being possibly the only one who can stand up to Luffy in terms of power, and that whole Dressrosa flashback with Corazon. Don't think we'll be getting such major plot development with Kid now.
Given how he's written Kid so far, I might be inclined to agree but I'm still holding into some hope. It really does depend in on how Oda chooses to write Kid but I think Kid may get a lot more focus later on vs Shanks in his arc, assuming we do get a Shanks arc ofc.

We still know so little on Kid vs Law who got so much screentime and development and I'd be fuming if Oda doesn't give him the same treatment somehow.

We're on the right track with him now but I'd love to see Kid get some solo major fight too and Oda dives deeper into his character and such.

We'll have to wait and see what he does anyway, Oda loves to prove our guesses wrong after all. I really would like to see 3 D's working together though, these three particularly, the trio of D's even.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
For Logias it was CoA in general, for Kaidou its advcoa.

Still unoriginal of course.
It’s the same thing. And unoriginal like you said. The point of Oda’s 2018 quote was that he himself would be disappointed if the only way he could think to give Luffy an advantage over Kaido was by giving him a power up that involved “stronger punching”.

Fast forward 3 years, and Luffy’s entire character arc in Wano was Oda giving him a punching powerup needed to defeat Kaido. The first 3rd of this chapter was characters fangasming over the strength of Luffy’s punch.

This is [one of the reasons] why I said yesterday that I’m concerned for Oda’s mental health. He failed himself here lol, and if Oda would’ve just kept his mouth shut in interviews then I’d be fine to let him off with defeating Kaido in the most predictable way possible, but Oda is self-aware of how boring this is. He said himself that he did not want to defeat Kaido this way, and now we’re at a point where Oda has set Luffy vs Kaido up under a premise that Oda himself said would be boring.

Like I said, if Oda himself hadn’t already confirmed that he would find Luffy’s character arc in Wano boring, I’d probably not have said anything lol. But the disappointing nature of Wano speaks for itself right now.
 
Now we are talking, I don’t know about chapter 1000, but this chapter actually brought a tear to me eye. It was god like. Punk Rotten looks so COOOOL. I knew killer wasn’t as strong as he could have been when he fought Zoro. The banter between kid law and Luffy. The panel at the end with BM and Kaido. Killer and Zoro working together. THIS CHAPTER WAS A GOD DAMN 10/10.
 
I knew as soon as i read the chapter that idiots who misunderstand Oda's intentions would take those shadows behind luffy as some sort of proof that Yonko > Admirals lmfao

These shadows are either not the ones Kaido is refering to when he talked about "There are only a few people in the world who can fight me" or there is a mistranslation going on.
Those shadows we see behind luffy are the pirates Kaido perceives as "Great" like he says in the same panel.
Why are those the pirates he perceives as great?
Because all of them were at one point close to the One Piece.
The reason why this makes more sense than believing he is thinking about the people who can fight him is that Big Mom is not included there, who we all know for a fact can fight him equally as well as Blackbeard also a yonko is not there either.
Instead only already deceased people (except Shanks) are listed there which would make no sense to be referring to Kaido's prior statement that "There are only a few people who can fight me" clearly talking about currently.
 
All of them are smiling except for Shanks.:memehm:
Shanks and Luffy have the same expression there. Then you add in that Shanks’ shadow is merged onto Luffy and in the last chapter they had the exact same pose when adjusting the SH and I think it’s clear that Oda is emphasising how much like Shanks Luffy has become. One of his goals after all is to become a man just like him.
 
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