Chapter Discussion [1001 Spoilers] What is your perspective of Zoro's Ryuo?

#61
If Zoro split open Kaido's tough dragon scale with his brute force and Hardening, make Kaido bleed like crazy. Isn't that mean Zoro is much more stronger in term of raw strength and Armament haki than Luffy?.

Luffy need to bypass Kaido with advance armament to hurt Kaido, while Zoro only need Hardening/Ryuo.
Luffy will never surpass Zoro - Eiichiro Oda
 
#66
I so far would have to say I think that the most likely thing is that we only see swords imbued to show relatively high effort. Like straining against Birdcage or using special moves. Zoro had his swords clad during his last ditch attack on Kamazo, but the same attack is used on Kaido as a warm-up and we don't see it. Obviously he'd want to cut Kaido at least as hard as he cut Killer, but I don't think it was the same effort.

Meanwhile Luffy clads his whole body and it's so taxing that he can't use Haki for a while after. Law immediately realized it was "too much" even without knowing Luffy's capacity in any way, I think because of that.

And lastly, we don't see Kaido clad at all. So I'm thinking we'll see Zoro start attacking with it when Kaido either starts kicking some ass or flexing Haki himself. But I feel like it's a conservative move based on stamina, and so he wasn't cutting lose with Enma.
 
#68
Yeah I don't think it should be lost on anyone that Luffy is in Gear 4. Zoro may or may not have an overdrive mode with the draining effect of Enma but he hasn't activated one. worst case scenario means he's even with Luffy there.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#69
Zoro literally wins this chapter. The fact that Oda explicitly have him as the only one holding back spoke volumes.
Also the foreshadowing of Zoro learning penetration haki is presumably set in stone. That reaction on top of the Enma training make me suggest that he is destined to break through and his arsenal will soon comprise that haki type too.
 
#71
Lol I still think it's useless. Zoro questions what Luffy has learned... because he didn't ask during the training segment. He didn't think it was necessary.

What's interesting aside from that though is that the answer to his question is no. That's not what Luffy learned from Hyo, actually.
 
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