General & Others 3rd Main Character: Nami or Sanji?

3rd Main Character?

  • Nami

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Sanji

    Votes: 32 28.6%

  • Total voters
    112
Sanji holds higher authority but Nami has more panel time.
IMO Nami is Oda's favorite, since she is the only strawhat that literally gets a PU every arc and never gets serious injures while being weak.
I can agree to this. I'm pretty sure the last time the panel time was officially counted (Beginning of Wano). Luffy, Nami, and Sanji were the top 3 in that order. Nami and Oda's wife are very similar as well so I the favoritism for Nami from Oda is pretty obvious
 
So you only having Navigation moments where the woman is just doing her job. Right.....

Pathetic
No, not at all. I clearly outlined areas in which she lead in response to the other person I was talking to, which was in the same post as the one your comment was in. What’s pathetic is how your group of fanboys try to delegitimize Nami’s role on the crew to prop up Sanji, for the sake of elevating him and his relevancy to Zoro, which is really what this discussion is an offshoot of.
 
No, not at all. I clearly outlined areas in which she lead in response to the other person I was talking to, which was in the same post as the one your comment was in. What’s pathetic is how your group of fanboys try to delegitimize Nami’s role on the crew to prop up Sanji, for the sake of elevating him and his relevancy to Zoro, which is really what this discussion is an offshoot of.
So you didnt say it to me but you expect me to magically be able to understand what your saying ?


Give me leadership potrayal or stop with the bs.
 
The first is Luffy.

Zoro / Sanji / Nami / Usopp next are the equally important characters, having the same importance for the series, all of which are deeper, more developed and that Oda will spend more screen time than any other character in the manga.


Oda chose to highlight Nami and Zoro’s reactions to Ace’s death.

Oda chose to have Nami (the heart) and Zoro (the head) debate the final decision to let Usopp back into the crew.

Oda chose to have Nami and Zoro meet Blackbeard and hear that his philosophy is similar to Luffy’s.

Sanji’s storyline brought the crew into WCI, Nami’s bond with Chiffon and Lola got them out of it

Zoro and Nami have always been the triggers of One Piece along with Luffy.
It's just panels that Nami shares with Luffy and Zoro, I can follow the same path:

Zoro and Sanji were the first to meet Luffy and listen to the speech with Rayleigh:



Zoro and Sanji are the ones who react together to Luffy CoC



Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are also the ones who reacted to Rayleigh Coc


Zoro and Sanji are also the characters featured in Luffy's "almost" execution:





Besides this panel that portrays that Zoro and Sanji are Luffy's wings

Anyway, these are panels that make Sanji seem more important than Nami, and I'm sure if I go through the manga I can find dozens more Luffy-Zoro-Sanji portraits, which make them look more important than Nami. At the end of it all it will prove nothing
 
The first is Luffy.

Zoro / Sanji / Nami / Usopp next are the equally important characters, having the same importance for the series, all of which are deeper, more developed and that Oda will spend more screen time than any other character in the manga.




It's just panels that Nami shares with Luffy and Zoro, I can follow the same path:

Zoro and Sanji were the first to meet Luffy and listen to the speech with Rayleigh:



Zoro and Sanji are the ones who react together to Luffy CoC



Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are also the ones who reacted to Rayleigh Coc


Zoro and Sanji are also the characters featured in Luffy's "almost" execution:





Besides this panel that portrays that Zoro and Sanji are Luffy's wings

Anyway, these are panels that make Sanji seem more important than Nami, and I'm sure if I go through the manga I can find dozens more Luffy-Zoro-Sanji portraits, which make them look more important than Nami. At the end of it all it will prove nothing


Yessssss go offf !!!!!
 
Sanji’s storyline brought the crew into WCI, Nami’s bond with Chiffon and Lola got them out of it
This is about the most BS statement ive read. It was Pudding's idea to bake the cake for the sake of Sanji, not Chiffon for the sake of Nami. Secondly you are forgetting Germa which helped because of Sanji. Thirdly Chffon's blind love for Nami, turned into admiration for Sanji and his cooking skills. Which prompted her to believe in the cake.

So please dont say it was because of Nami. All you have is the King Baum bs.
 
Dude, you literally dropped one piece


















I want to see how you will deny all these leadership panels
What do those panels have to do with what I’ve said, or said there? I’ve said three things this thread, that Nami is more important and is the third main character, which is a fact. That Nami is higher on the hierarchy, which is a fact. And in the post you quoted, that she (navigator), unlike Sanji (cook), is in a leadership position on the crew, which is a fact. I did not say that Sanji doesn’t have moments of leadership, only that he is not more of a leader, nor more prominent, than Nami. Which is a fact.
 
Dude, you literally dropped one piece


















I want to see how you will deny all these leadership panels
Stop speaking in gibberish and show me moments where she has actually led the SHs. And dont you dare put up any Navigation moments.
What are you two even arguing about at this point?

1) Authority has nothing to do with plot relevance or prominence. If that was the case then Kakashi would be the main character of Naruto and Eraser Head would be the main character of My hero.

2) Nami has been stated to be internal captain so both of you are arguing a moot point.

If Zoro is first mate then Nami is second mate (interestingly enough the second mate is customarily the ship's navagator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_mate
https://www.jobmonkey.com/maritimejobs/second_mate/
which makes sense as to why she was chosen to be the next crew member after Zoro) .
 
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Dude, you literally dropped one piece


















I want to see how you will deny all these leadership panels
Good work !

What do those panels have to do with what I’ve said, or said there? I’ve said three things this thread, that Nami is more important and is the third main character, which is a fact. That Nami is higher on the hierarchy, which is a fact. And in the post you quoted, that she (navigator), unlike Sanji (cook), is in a leadership position on the crew, which is a fact. I did not say that Sanji doesn’t have moments of leadership, only that he is not more of a leader, nor more prominent, than Nami. Which is a fact.
You are a joke. You've got no arguments whatsoever.
 
What are you two even arguing about at this point?

1) Authority has nothing to do with plot relevance or prominence. If that was the case then Kakashi would be the main character of Naruto and Eraser Head would be the main character of My hero.

2) Nami has been stated to be internal captain so both of you are arguing a moot point.

If Zoro is first mate then Nami is second mate (interestingly enough the second mate is customarily the ship's navagator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_mate which makes sense as to why she was chosen to be the next crew member after Zoro) .
This argument has nothing to do with relevance or whos more of a main character. It is simply to disprove the false notion of Nami being more of a leader than Sanji.

Why do we take IC when we have literal cannon proof. Internal Captain can be taken as anything. It could be that she sorts out the crews usual minor problems, such as disiplining them one they do bad things. Aka her gags scenes of beating everyone up.

Dont give a fuck what is says about second mates. Zoro isnt even first mate.
 
This argument has nothing to do with relevance or whos more of a main character. It is simply to disprove the false notion of Nami being more of a leader than Sanji.
But isn't a false notion. Sanji is rarely in a leadership position. Nami almost always is.
Why do we take IC when we have literal cannon proof. Internal Captain can be taken as anything. It could be that she sorts out the crews usual minor problems, such as disiplining them one they do bad things. Aka her gags scenes of beating everyone up.
Denial is the first stage of grief...

Your perception isnt "literal canon proof". You know you have no ground to stand on which is why you're trying to dismiss or minimize her role.
 
Yall are completely wrong. The answer isn’t Sanji or Nami, saying either of those two is like airballing a free throw shot with no one near you. The answer is Robin and imma try to keep it brief.

Valuable Skills: For one she can read the poneglyphs (way more valuable than anything Nami and Sanji can do) and without her, the rubber boy won’t be Pirate King, the crew wouldn’t go to Raftel and Nami won’t be able to draw that map to get to Raftel. She also spits the most useful facts and information when the crew needs it, Sanji meanwhile spends half his time uttering gag lines and Nami is ok when it comes to interactions, but she is no where near as knowledgeable as her superior, Robin.


Dream: Has the more impactful dream than Sanji and Nami. This shit not even close tbh. Her dream of learning the true history is tied with the entire overlying narrative of the series and its history, and as a result brings about the very final war. That is simply more significant than finding an exotic sea or whatever in the world Nami’s dream was about, if I can’t remember it off the top of my head, that goes to show how little value it has to begin with.

Impact in the Verse: Dubbed as the “Light Of The Revolution” by the Revolutionaries, the main opposing force of the WG. Also the only member of the crew besides Luffy to be formally recognized by the most dangerous man in the world:

the same cannot be said for Sanji and Nami. Sanji hasnt even been able to excel in his role as the fighter, which is why it makes sense he has turned to what he does best; cooking.

But doing things like baking a cake that only momentarily distracted Big Mama isn’t no where near being recognized as the crucial piece to overcoming the 800 year tyrannical rule that is the World Government. I mean what is Sanji going to do that time? Prepare some refreshments for the Gorosei to get distracted over?

As for Nami, maybe turning out to be Uranus will be a good enough impact because she’s not viewed as much of a significant threat in the verse. Maybe taking Hancock’s title could help as well, but Robin is closer that than Nami ever will be if we are honest with ourselves:kayneshrug:

here you have it boys and girls. Robin is simply more relevant to the plot than both Nami and Sanji. Honestly you could have these two do the fusion dance and turn into Nanji:

credits to ginyu1992 on deviantart
And they’d still be less important than the character that is known as Nico “The Light of One Piece” Robin aka:

I rest my case :jordanmf:
Toki is Robin 2.0. Now I rest my case xD.
Zoro and Nami were actively sought out by Luffy. the rest just happened to be in the right spot when they passed by.
:eeke: did he? Didn't he heard bout Zoro when he made it to the island after setting out? Nami also in the process.

Instead he actively sought Baratie to pick up a cook, and made his mind to recruit Sanji like he did with the rest, Zoro n Nami included.
For those who claim when it comes to fighting then Sanji is more important.....you are wrong.
:watchout:
The first is Luffy.

Zoro / Sanji / Nami / Usopp next are the equally important characters, having the same importance for the series, all of which are deeper, more developed and that Oda will spend more screen time than any other character in the manga.




It's just panels that Nami shares with Luffy and Zoro, I can follow the same path:

Zoro and Sanji were the first to meet Luffy and listen to the speech with Rayleigh:



Zoro and Sanji are the ones who react together to Luffy CoC



Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are also the ones who reacted to Rayleigh Coc


Zoro and Sanji are also the characters featured in Luffy's "almost" execution:





Besides this panel that portrays that Zoro and Sanji are Luffy's wings

Anyway, these are panels that make Sanji seem more important than Nami, and I'm sure if I go through the manga I can find dozens more Luffy-Zoro-Sanji portraits, which make them look more important than Nami. At the end of it all it will prove nothing
Dude, you literally dropped one piece


















I want to see how you will deny all these leadership panels
Thank you. These Panels will enlighten many.
So god damn pathetic!

The fact that some people are creating this to just give more heat against Sanji... while at the same time they forget about Usopp's importance as one of the MC is fucking lauhable!

It's just a god damn desperate move to again belittle a character, but in the same time... they in turn would belittle the whole rest of the crew importance!
What else you can expect from some here. :jordanmf:
 
But isn't a false notion. Sanji is rarely in a leadership position. Nami almost always is.
Cap. You have no proof of this. All you have is Nami saying theres gonna be bad weather....everyone prepare some bs like that:pepeke:

Your perception isnt "literal canon proof". You know you have no ground to stand on which is why you're trying to dismiss or minimize her role.
What role ? Her role as a navigator ? Because thats all she has. Im sorry but all she takes part in is weather related problems. Half of the time Luffy dont give a fuck about her input to go to the next island.

Im not minimizing anything. She has no authorative role for serious things to begin with.
 
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