Chapter Discussion Admirals are slaves confirmed

#24
Case in point as to why Kizaru was always my least favorite Admiral. He seems to have no goals or ambitions of his own, even Oda doesn’t even know what Kizaru’s justice is lol.
Oda knows what's he doing with Kizaru lol
He's a caricature of the japanese salaryman, men who do their work diligently and follow the rules, but aren't that passionate about their actual job, it's all about the good paycheck, the social status and job security.

It's further emphasized by Oda's drawing of Kizaru as kid, where he looks like a poor but studious kid :


Broken lamp, patched hat, ton of huge books .

Funnily japanese readers were surprised and actually liked Kizaru using the term "社畜" (they didn't expect it to be used in the OP world), finding him relatable.

A noticeable difference though is that he clearly doesn't overwork himself or anything, he also reached the admiral rank so it's not like he's some random grunt. The good little subservient employe stuff is partially facade to not be held accountable for the WG's atrocities (like the planned Vegapunk's assassination in the case).

That's why he's my favourite. Some people be doing too much. Kizaru just wants his paycheck, but he's not even worried about packing up Kaidou and Big Mom together if required. Stress free all the time.

Also Kizaru was being sarcastic as always.
^This.
 
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#25
You mean a subservient bitch?
What would Pinzoro say about the way you talk about him?


He seems to have no goals or ambitions of his own
Why would he need ambition when he already reached the peak [Admiral rank]?
Now he's just cruising through life

Him being uncertain is the reason why Sengoku never recommended Kizaru and we never got a 3 way Admiral fight for Fleet Admiral rank
 
#30
What are you even talking about? :giogio:


Not proven in the manga, databooks are trash
I don't rate databooks much either but odds that Sengoku would be the only character they wrongly gave COC out of all the 1000 characters featured in the VC while never correcting it are pretty low, important mistakes get corrected on twitter.
 
#31
That's why he's my favourite. Some people be doing too much. Kizaru just wants his paycheck, but he's not even worried about packing up Kaidou and Big Mom together if required. Stress free all the time.

Also Kizaru was being sarcastic as always.
He not being sarcastic. He literally just follows orders. Hr not like the other Admirals. Which is why they all have their own justice
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Some people still believe all admirals have CoC 😂 Delusional
Taking orders got noting to do with CoC.
 
#32
Do you really compare a CoC user chosing to follow another CoC user (that's destined to become the Pirate King by the way) to some guy with gifted special df who sucks CD and gorosei balls or whoever's balls that are his superiors?

Zoro expects luffy and pushes luffy to be the guy he goes with. The moment luffy steps out of line, zoro is gone.


In contrast, kizaru would suck the balls of ANY celestial dragon. Just because. Without any hesitation. Quite the opposite, he's probably longing for it, just as green bitch
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He probably faked his certificate. Secuck's such a cunt

Hating on a brotha just because he works for the bag and has reached the pinnacle of Life.

 
#33
I don't rate databooks much either but odds that Sengoku would be the only character they wrongly gave COC out of all the 1000 characters featured in the VC while never correcting it are pretty low, important mistakes get corrected on twitter.
If you dont rate databooks, why do you believe that statement? Not only believe it, you are using it to prove Kizaru has CoC. Let Sengoku's CoC be proven first, then we will talk.

I find many databook statements ridiculous, Whitebeard was WSM during Roger's era, Ben Beckmann is as strong as Shanks, Vista has greater swordskill than Mihawk, and many others. Clearly, some Shuiesha staff is making this shit up.
 

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#36
That's why he's my favourite. Some people be doing too much. Kizaru just wants his paycheck, but he's not even worried about packing up Kaidou and Big Mom together if required. Stress free all the time.

Also Kizaru was being sarcastic as always.
For real. Kuzan and Akainu are way too into their jobs and Greenbull and Fujitora are even worse.
 
#39
Do you really compare a CoC user chosing to follow another CoC user (that's destined to become the Pirate King by the way) to some guy with gifted special df who sucks CD and gorosei balls or whoever's balls that are his superiors?
Pinzoro did not choose to follow him, Luffy made him a deal about freeing him and he would become his subordinate and Pinzoro agreed without ever knowing anything about Luffy or his personality or anything.

Pinzoro literally had no choice but to suck the balls of a literal retarded manchild who had nothing going for him, who he knew for less than 5 minutes.

Meanwhile Kizaru reached the top of the power that controls the whole world and he only obeys people who rule the world while being their strongest fighter.
Zoro expects luffy and pushes luffy to be the guy he goes with. The moment luffy steps out of line, zoro is gone.
Pinzoro says a lot of things, yet he doesn't go through with his own words


Kek, remember this bitch saying telling Luffy to take things seriously, but 2 chapters later he sits around while not finishing Monet off and helping the crew? And then Monet almost nuked the island?


According to his own words, Pinzoro should've left the crew the moment Luffy took Sanji back to the crew without apologizing.
But that's Pinzoro for you, just empty words.
 
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