Future Events Akainu and Blackbeard are destined to lose together

[Paperchampion23]

Haven't read the OP but you saying Luffy will beat both at same time?

Same chapter/page/panel? No. Same arc? Possibly yes.

When I say Luffy may end up fighting both at the same time (i.e. same arc), theres a plethora of factors that I think come into play here.

- First I think itll be a big war
- 2nd I think that multiple players will face each other outside of 1v1s directly, i.e. Its not Luffy 2v1'ing Akainu and Blackbeard, its Akainu vs Blackbeard, possibly Blackbeard vs Shanks, and possibly Shanks vs Luffy. You can carry this forward with any other crew member.
- 3rd I just believe that these are the 2 Big Antagonists that will entirely lose because of the Catharsis for Ace and Whitebeard, and if you consider who was involved at Marineford, they are the biggest factors on top of Garp, Kuzan, Shanks, Mihawk, etc.
- 4th think whatever you want about Shanks or Imu. Maybe they are involved here, maybe they arent. Maybe Shanks comes out on top with Luffy, maybe he doesnt, etc. Same with CG/Mihawk. It all depends.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

For me the only possible parallel between teach and akainu is that both were presented in the pre-time skip as the main cause of tragedies, as well as being two of the last three villains.
But only that, because Teach is much more important to the story than Akainu

Teach is linked to Shanks, Rocks, Luffy and the void century (since he is an archeologist). And not forget he orchestrated the main events of pre time skip...
I think its possible to Teach lose before Akainu, since I believe Laugh Tale will happen before Mary Geoise (final war). But I have a feeling that Oda is giving a role to Teach in the final war. The reason for that is because Teach wants that Hashinosu be part of WG. If Teach lose in the race for one piece (before the final war) why oda is cooking that?

But as I said, I think you are forcing a strong connection between Teach and Akainu

 

[Reborn]

Nah


These two are too big of an antagonist to fall to Luffy in same arc.


Also, there isn't much connection between Teach and Akainu.

We can have more solid connection between Teach and IMU

 

[Jija]

Blackbeard can fall to Shanks. Yeah Luffy has a history with BB but i think Akainu's impact is much stronger. Luffy think Ace died because he(Luffy) was weak, because he couldn't protect himself against Akainu. On the other hand BB was the reason why Ace was captured but Luffy said it was Ace's adventure and Ace wouldn't like any interference from Luffy. Luffy was not guilt for Ace's defeat from BB.

 

[Erkan12]

He grabs his scar because of Ace and his own injury from Akainu brainlet. And Aokiji is, and always has, been an enemy to Luffy. No amount of cope is going to change these basic facts

He grabs it because he learned Red dog defeated Aokiji while Luffy was thinking maybe Aokiji beat Red dog in the end, if Aokiji won he wouldn't give a shit about Red dog or scar. Aokiji was an enemy like Smoker for him clown, just because he sees Aokiji as someone he needs to defeat doesn't mean he doesn't care about him or see him someone like Red dog. Luffy also says he wants to defeat Shanks, if someone defeats Shanks before him he would care about that too.

You guys are getting hung up on language lol.

Nope, you just can't speak English properly while wanking Red Dog and lowballing Teach

. He IS the cause of one of 2 deaths in the war. Thats the point im making

That doesn't make him orchestrate anything, learn English. Also Oars Jr died as well as the many dying Marines that Koby was crying about, not 2 deaths. Red dog even killed his own marine soldier as well who was begging for his family.

Akainu didnt orchestrated nothing about Marineford
Give the credits to Sengoku

He simply wants to lower Teach's level to Celestial dragon underling Red Dog since he is butthurt about Shanks's scar.

Teach probably uses Red Dog like he uses Aokiji, thats what happened in MF. Teach used all Marines to distract WB pirates so he could kill WB after delivering Ace alive. Teach could simply kill Ace like he killed Thatch if he wanted, Ace was clearly nerfed there due to many broken bones that Teach caused and Ace didn't drink Mink Pee to heal as well.

Even in MF before Teach being an Emperor:

-WB fights Red Dog then final fight vs Teach.
-Shanks stops Red Dog, then stops Teach as the final opponent.

Even Pre-Emperor Teach was more important than Red Dog in Marineford.

Red dog either is falling before Teach, or Teach becomes ally to Government again and uses Marines like Red dog as underlings. He already uses Aokiji something Red dog failed to do.

 

[Durableguy]

Blackbeard can fall to Shanks. Yeah Luffy has a history with BB but i think Akainu's impact is much stronger. Luffy think Ace died because he(Luffy) was weak, because he couldn't protect himself against Akainu. On the other hand BB was the reason why Ace was captured but Luffy said it was Ace's adventure and Ace wouldn't like any interference from Luffy. Luffy was not guilt for Ace's defeat from BB.

That's precisely why people theorize BB killing Shanks.

Blackbeard then becomes a very impactful villain, and hypes up his strength.

 

[Redboy776]

Its further over, the only hope of the marinet Blackbeard is no longer only a DEVIL FRUITS MERCHANTS but also a CONQUEROR like every other yonko meaning he had flowing haki acoa and adcoc making indeed YONKO LEVEL. This could also mean that shiryu (the oden of the blackbeard pirate) might have it too once his comment about waiting for BLACKBEARD in impel down and also explain. shiryu already flowing acoa and basic coa, his haki pierced garp iron haki so there is already some build up.

 

[Cozy Sofa]

I don't know about their defeats but what I'm looking forward to is to see how anyone beats BB and Akainu due to their DFs.

- How does one even counter Magu Magu? Luffy burned himself severely against Kaido and I'm sure Akainus magma is even hotter. Every hit by Akainu is a near fatal one and even to hit him it's best to not touch him at all. I suppose Aokiji could negate it a lot through his powers but no one else has that advantage.

- How does any DF user handle Yami Yami? Only Mihawk, Shanks and Zoro of the top tiers are immune to it and I only give Shanks a remote chance of either fighting or winning against BB.

- How does any fighter handle Gura Gura? One hit is probably enough to break your bones from the inside and it's not a physical attack that you really can block.

Man! I'm looking forward to see them fight!

 

[Redboy776]

- How does any DF user handle Yami Yami? Only Mihawk, Shanks and Zoro of the top tiers are immune to it and I only give Shanks a remote chance of either fighting or winning against BB.

- How does any fighter handle Gura Gura? One hit is probably enough to break your bones from the inside and it's not a physical attack that you really can block.

By sending him flying like Shawk did plus dodge or cut through his blackhole.

 

[Jija]

That's precisely why people theorize BB killing Shanks.

Blackbeard then becomes a very impactful villain, and hypes up his strength.

I think just the opposite might happen.

 

[MonsterKaido]

I don't know about their defeats but what I'm looking forward to is to see how anyone beats BB and Akainu due to their DFs.

- How does one even counter Magu Magu? Luffy burned himself severely against Kaido and I'm sure Akainus magma is even hotter. Every hit by Akainu is a near fatal one and even to hit him it's best to not touch him at all. I suppose Aokiji could negate it a lot through his powers but no one else has that advantage.

By using adv coa which lets you harm an opponent without touching. Same way he defeated Kaido lol.