Anime & Manga Awakened Vergo vs Raid Suit Sanji
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He was depicted as the weakest. Page One and Ulti were treated by kids and Ulti had superior feats than Page One, the encounter with Luffy showed that pretty heavily.
I could be wrong, maybe Sasaki, Who's Who, and Black Maria fail to deliver and Page One is the 2nd strongest and Ulti the strongest of them (not counting Drake), and I'd be willing to change my tone on that.
LIke if Zoro suddenly defeats Queen or something, then I'd be willing to go "yeah, oda kind of sucks for screwing up the power scale so weirdly, but I can admit I was wrong". If zoro had actually just stared apoo face to face, then one hit him (though swordsman always one hit, but I mean like there was no clashing, just straight bam win), then I'd be like "yeah, zoro stomped him", but like, yeah.
Here's how I view things rn:
King > Queen > Jack > Doflamingo (he's an unofficial member, ie his joker name) > Sasaki = Vergo (we don't have a good way to judge Sasaki rn so it's a guess) > Who's Who > Black Maria > Ulti > Page One > Headliners > Hatcha > Other Numbers > Gifters > Pleasures > Regular guys
I kind of think Drake is going to be the one who defeats Queen tbh, a kind of revenge match for the betrayal stuff. If I were to put Apoo somewhere, maybe stronger than Sasaki but weaker than Doflamingo. Zoro is like Who's Who level, and he'll be top commander level akin to like Queen or Jack by the time they fight the blackbeard pirates, and he'll be stronger than King by the time the final war happens. (a traditional shounen power progression)
Luffy is probably around King leveled rn.
I'm expecting Kaidou, Marco, his Top Commanders, Drake, and the Tobi Roppo to all have Awakened zoans as well. (Kaidou is literally THE STRONGEST zoan, if he doesn't have an awakened zoan, that'd be literally laughable). LIke pretty much this is the zoan arc, so I'm expecting things to be looking well, and then everyone goes full monster awakened zoan form and things to look dreary.
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He will, not in a big role, but he'll come back. The slime dying when it had the axoxtl fruit, and the axoxtl fruit being literally the perfect way for vergo to regenerate from the pieced up position he's in. I'm expecting doflamingo to escape at some point and vergo and him form some sort of Crocodile and Daz Bones style duo, maybe doing something as an uneasy alliance with the strawhats and law, with them kind of just helping booster the forces for the final war or something.
I could be wrong, maybe Sasaki, Who's Who, and Black Maria fail to deliver and Page One is the 2nd strongest and Ulti the strongest of them (not counting Drake), and I'd be willing to change my tone on that.
LIke if Zoro suddenly defeats Queen or something, then I'd be willing to go "yeah, oda kind of sucks for screwing up the power scale so weirdly, but I can admit I was wrong". If zoro had actually just stared apoo face to face, then one hit him (though swordsman always one hit, but I mean like there was no clashing, just straight bam win), then I'd be like "yeah, zoro stomped him", but like, yeah.
Here's how I view things rn:
King > Queen > Jack > Doflamingo (he's an unofficial member, ie his joker name) > Sasaki = Vergo (we don't have a good way to judge Sasaki rn so it's a guess) > Who's Who > Black Maria > Ulti > Page One > Headliners > Hatcha > Other Numbers > Gifters > Pleasures > Regular guys
I kind of think Drake is going to be the one who defeats Queen tbh, a kind of revenge match for the betrayal stuff. If I were to put Apoo somewhere, maybe stronger than Sasaki but weaker than Doflamingo. Zoro is like Who's Who level, and he'll be top commander level akin to like Queen or Jack by the time they fight the blackbeard pirates, and he'll be stronger than King by the time the final war happens. (a traditional shounen power progression)
Luffy is probably around King leveled rn.
I'm expecting Kaidou, Marco, his Top Commanders, Drake, and the Tobi Roppo to all have Awakened zoans as well. (Kaidou is literally THE STRONGEST zoan, if he doesn't have an awakened zoan, that'd be literally laughable). LIke pretty much this is the zoan arc, so I'm expecting things to be looking well, and then everyone goes full monster awakened zoan form and things to look dreary.
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@critical mindset Here Sanji shows his ankle clashing with Vergo's leg.
Yet no...
Clearly shown is that Vergo can only crack injured Sanji's bones when Sanji only lifts his leg up to block. If Sanji parrys, Vergo's kicks cant do shit.
Here Sanji parrys with the leg with the cracked fibula.
No further cracks or damage. It shows that Sanji's damage came from overestimating his damage body.
Its sad that Vergo cant send injured Sanji flying whilst....Vergo got rag dolled and sent flying twice
Yet no...
Clearly shown is that Vergo can only crack injured Sanji's bones when Sanji only lifts his leg up to block. If Sanji parrys, Vergo's kicks cant do shit.
Here Sanji parrys with the leg with the cracked fibula.
No further cracks or damage. It shows that Sanji's damage came from overestimating his damage body.
Its sad that Vergo cant send injured Sanji flying whilst....Vergo got rag dolled and sent flying twice
Not like Pageone, Vergo wasn't even able to push nerfed Sanji away, such a idiot he was. Pageone did it far better against RS Sanji yet he hasn't someone who hype him so much like Vergo who did it worse.
First Vergo could be happy to face nerfed Sanji. Second serious health Sanji would win around mid diff against Vergo. Rs Sanji would murder this guy.
When probably the weakest flyer perform a far better feat(sending Rs Sanji and tanking G3 of current Luffy) then Vergo, you know how trash Vergo could be, a one shot material for Supernova lvl characters.
First Vergo could be happy to face nerfed Sanji. Second serious health Sanji would win around mid diff against Vergo. Rs Sanji would murder this guy.
When probably the weakest flyer perform a far better feat(sending Rs Sanji and tanking G3 of current Luffy) then Vergo, you know how trash Vergo could be, a one shot material for Supernova lvl characters.
@critical mindset Vergo needs to start working on his stance. Dude gets sent each time Sanji lands a clean hit
He needs to hit the gym and work on his stance and balance. Otherwise he wont be able to firm a single hit.
He needs to hit the gym and work on his stance and balance. Otherwise he wont be able to firm a single hit.
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@critical mindset Here Sanji shows his ankle clashing with Vergo's leg.
Yet no...
Clearly shown is that Vergo can only crack injured Sanji's bones when Sanji only lifts his leg up to block. If Sanji parrys, Vergo's kicks cant do shit.
Here Sanji parrys with the leg with the cracked fibula.
No further cracks or damage. It shows that Sanji's damage came from overestimating his damage body.
Its sad that Vergo cant send injured Sanji flying whilst....Vergo got rag dolled and sent flying twice
Yet no...
Clearly shown is that Vergo can only crack injured Sanji's bones when Sanji only lifts his leg up to block. If Sanji parrys, Vergo's kicks cant do shit.
Here Sanji parrys with the leg with the cracked fibula.
No further cracks or damage. It shows that Sanji's damage came from overestimating his damage body.
Its sad that Vergo cant send injured Sanji flying whilst....Vergo got rag dolled and sent flying twice
This is the left leg. Dude, Vergo is toying with him, taking his time. Vergo was the true boss of the arc
None of Vergo's attacks had any power behind them save for the actual kick where he clashed with his ankle
Sanji was trolled dude
It's like saying Sanji was his strongest when he got sent flying by the smaller genie of Daifuku. In fact Sanji clashed multiple times with the biggest genie, so that's a huge difference
Sanji said himself he wanted to test the durability of the suit so he didn't fight back when P1 hit him. You do not realise this?`That's why he called P1 a "idiot" right before the battle and said he was going to test the suit. That's why he assumed the same stance he did when Daifuku overpowered him in their first instance and did not block properly. He wanted to be sent flying to see how much impact the suit can handle
Sad you compare Vergo who toyed with Sanji to one that wanted to be sent flying by P1, then immediately afterwards hauled P1s ass to sickbay
P1=struggling against motherfucking baboon lol
This is the left leg. Dude, Vergo is toying with him, taking his time. Vergo was the true boss of the arc
None of Vergo's attacks had any power behind them save for the actual kick where he clashed with his ankle
Sanji was trolled dude
Yet this didnt happen.
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That was deffo hos ankle. And even if you deny that then it was some part of his leg....which was very close to his foot.
Yet this didnt happen.
Yet this didnt happen.
Think you underestimate the amazing fun of seeing the face of a brazen, overconfident motherfucker getting broken like that :cheers:
Watch his expression again
@ me when we get to lay eyes on such a mixed bag of emotions all in one expression from Sanji ever again: terror, shock, awe, humiliation, trepidation, a rapid upsurge of self doubt and more...
I fear I may wait a lifetime and never again see it
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Agree, it didn’t. Sanji is superhuman, harder than Silvia, and because Vergo was putting up no resistance for the whole duration of the fight save for that one attack, that one attack when Vergo even consciously nerfed himself. It was a surprise with a completely nerfed attack to not only break his bone but spirit. Vergo broke his spirit with that ;)
Think you underestimate the amazing fun of seeing the face of a brazen, overconfident motherfucker getting broken like that :cheers:
Watch his expression again
@ me when we get to lay eyes on such a mixed bag of emotions all in one expression from Sanji ever again: terror, shock, awe, humiliation, trepidation, a rapid upsurge of self doubt and more...
I fear I may wait a lifetime and never again see it
Think you underestimate the amazing fun of seeing the face of a brazen, overconfident motherfucker getting broken like that :cheers:
Watch his expression again
@ me when we get to lay eyes on such a mixed bag of emotions all in one expression from Sanji ever again: terror, shock, awe, humiliation, trepidation, a rapid upsurge of self doubt and more...
I fear I may wait a lifetime and never again see it
But doesnt this panel prove Vergo used his left leg ?
@Shuyaku @Sentinel @Zenos7 ?
Am lost I dont remember anyone saying this lol.
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Anyways Vergo was perfectly serious against Sanji.
Sanji just smoked his cigarrete and lifted his leg.
@critical mindset Here Sanji shows his ankle clashing with Vergo's leg.
Yet no...
Clearly shown is that Vergo can only crack injured Sanji's bones when Sanji only lifts his leg up to block. If Sanji parrys, Vergo's kicks cant do shit.
Here Sanji parrys with the leg with the cracked fibula.
No further cracks or damage. It shows that Sanji's damage came from overestimating his damage body.
Its sad that Vergo cant send injured Sanji flying whilst....Vergo got rag dolled and sent flying twice
Yet no...
Clearly shown is that Vergo can only crack injured Sanji's bones when Sanji only lifts his leg up to block. If Sanji parrys, Vergo's kicks cant do shit.
Here Sanji parrys with the leg with the cracked fibula.
No further cracks or damage. It shows that Sanji's damage came from overestimating his damage body.
Its sad that Vergo cant send injured Sanji flying whilst....Vergo got rag dolled and sent flying twice
So what is your argument, that Vergo low diff'd Sanji using only kicks, no buso, and no rokushiki, instead of vergo no/neg diffing sanji?
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nah sanji switched legs and underwear between panels, he is massively trolling vergo
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thats the point where i recently told you he claims a second leg switch happened, because otherwise he cant reconcile the panels. poor soul
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vergo ran off though?!
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vergo ran off though?!
I was mainly saying ran away to mention his comment that essentially said he would be screwed if they kept fighting. The smoke came in and both had to go away cuz it'd have killed both of them, and vergo didn't chase after sanji in particular cuz he chose to prioritize law (obviously, especially since what law was trying to do)
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Yeah @HopOnTheHype Luffy cleared off the shinouki with his CoA, so ther smoke wouldn’t have been a problem for Vergo who has mogging CoA that Caesar hyped way over Luffy. One time where Zenos is correct
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