General & Others Balance of Powers of the Marines, Yonko and Shichibukai

[Lee Ba Shou]

I love how quickly the Yoncucks tried to bring up irrelevance to distract from the facts that @Extravlad just spit.

Two Yonko need all three ancient weapons to take on the world government, who’s main fighting force is Navy HQ.

 

[Red Admiral]

When Big Mom speaks of her possible alliance with Elbaf, and what she would be able to do here is what she says

So the general idea here is that :

Bigmom+Elbaf army > Whitebeard > Kaido/Shanks.

She doesn't mention the Marines or WG, many Yonko fans use this as an argument to say the Marines are irrelevant yada yada.

However when BIGMOM allies herself WITH KAIDO here is what their COMMON GOAL is

Suddenly the WORLD GOVERNMENT and MARINES become relevant now that she is allied with KAIDO and plans on taking the ANCIENT WEAPONS.

The reason why she did not bring them up when speaking about her alliance with ELBAF is that even with such power, she would've been UNABLE to do anything against them, despite crushing the other Yonko.

So here we can get a clearer picture of how the balance of power works in a Yonko's mind.

In Kaido/BM's heads : 2 Yonko + 3 Ancient Weapons > World Government > 2 Yonko > Yonko+Elbaf > Whitebeard > Other Yonko.
(Keep in mind that Yonko are arrogant as fuck, so it doesn't confirm 2 Yonko+3 ancient weapons can beat the WG)

In other words the 1 Yonko=Marine+Shichibukai nonsense is debunked by the Yonko themselves, they only consider attacking the WG if they are allied AND have ancient weapons.

With Elbaf power they only consider taking each other out :cheers:

Gorosei : if Shanks get mad we can't stop him
/thread

 

[Lee Ba Shou]

Gorosei : if Shanks get mad we can't stop him
/thread

Gorosei: if Shanks get mad we will send Doberman to eat him
\thread

 

[Red Admiral]

Gorosei: if Shanks get mad we will send Doberman to eat him
\thread

you think trolling can saves you?

lol

the highest ranking member in world government respect and fear Shanks far more than they respect or trust marine

 

[Uncle Van]

Yeah the fact that they outnumber WB alone & "They" refers to WB alone
Amazing English

No. The WBP can wipe out the MF marines because of Whitebeard's devil fruit power. It's because of his specific island sinking power.

Imagining an army of snowmen saying the Buggy pirates can wipe them out because Ace can control flames(pretend Ace is with them).

 

[Mr. Tuna Sandwich]

you think trolling can saves you?

lol

the highest ranking member in world government respect and fear Shanks far more than they respect or trust marine

You think disinformation will save you? Stop Shanks from what? Maybe he have a dirt on them and they can't stop him from snitching because he master of hiding?


Hundred Fish Crydo:

 

[Red Admiral]

You think disinformation will save you? Stop Shanks from what? Maybe he have a dirt on them and they can't stop him from snitching because he master of hiding?

lol we know shit about Shanks fire power ... if he have Elbaf right now he can beat both Kaido and Big Mom ....

and "some dirt"?
lol
Dark King have ALL THE DIRTS

but they are talking about a MAD SHANKS after he want to see Whitebeard
it's clearly about power of Shanks + army

and WG fears that more than they trust Marine
deal with it

 

[Mr. Tuna Sandwich]

lol we know shit about Shanks fire power ... if he have Elbaf right now he can beat both Kaido and Big Mom ....

and "some dirt"?
lol
Dark King have ALL THE DIRTS

but they are talking about a MAD SHANKS after he want to see Whitebeard
it's clearly about power of Shanks + army

and WG fears that more than they trust Marine
deal with it

1) Shanks ruling Elbaf is a headcanon which is very unlikely to turn true
2) Dark King retired while Red Haired is still active.

 

[Red Admiral]

1) Shanks ruling Elbaf is a headcanon which is very unlikely to turn true
2) Dark King retired while Red Haired is still active.

1) it was an EXPMALE ... Shanks military power is unknown to us but it clear as day
2) telling other information is unrelated to being retired or not

WG with Navy + 10 army of CPs + world Army don't fear bad news
they fear Shanks tho


and it's ain't no big news .... Teach MOCKED Whitebard for losing the war ... 1 true Yonko + strong crew can push Marine to it's limits

but entire WG might not be able to stand in front of God King military might :cheers:

 

[Lee Ba Shou]

you think trolling can saves you?

lol

the highest ranking member in world government respect and fear Shanks far more than they respect or trust marine

I was just doing the same thing you were, inventing fiction in denial of reality lol.

The Gorosei were terrified of Sakazuki but sent their guards away for Shanks and treated him like an afterthought in comparison to Reverie.

 

[Mr. Tuna Sandwich]

1) it was an EXPMALE ... Shanks military power is unknown to us but it clear as day
2) telling other information is unrelated to being retired or not

WG with Navy + 10 army of CPs + world Army don't fear bad news
they fear Shanks tho


and it's ain't no big news .... Teach MOCKED Whitebard for losing the war ... 1 true Yonko + strong crew can push Marine to it's limits

but entire WG might not be able to stand in front of God King military might :cheers:

2 Yonko crew ~ Rocks crew

Rocks crew lost to Vice Admiral and a vigilante Pirate

Hundred Fish Crydo himself condredict you lmao and let's ignore how t's completely make Luffy's story pointless if Shanks could've defeat the WG all this time 🙄🐠

 

[Fujishiro]

Sengoku > Headcanon

The Marines arent the WG in its entirety.

 

[Mr. Tuna Sandwich]

The Marines arent the WG in its entirety.

True, also the forces at MF wasn't the entire Marine forces

 

[Fujishiro]

True, also the forces at MF wasn't the entire Marine forces

Didnt the narrator say that that all of the marines Elite Forces were present? But yeah the lesser impactful ones were still protecting the world.

 

[Mr. Tuna Sandwich]

Didnt the narrator say that that all of the marines Elite Forces were present? But yeah the lesser impactful ones were still protecting the world.

Only of HQ, there units which aren't of HQ

 

[Peroroncino]

kaido saying they have a weapon that can stop them now implies they couldn't stop them before

 

[Monkey D Theories]

obviously not

remember when Kid, Law, Killer, and Zoro nearly killed Big Mom?

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

True, also the forces at MF wasn't the entire Marine forces

Doesnt matter since Garps statement is Marine HQ + warlords.

 

[Red Admiral]

The Gorosei were terrified of Sakazuki but sent their guards away for Shanks and treated him like an afterthought in comparison to Reverie.

lol ... they said "you value is less than zero for us" and "know your place"

while
they admit they can't stop an all out Shanks (and army)
they showed highest level of respect but letting him in and clear a day for talking to him

p.s
you are trying to use 2 or 3 fodders as reason from "not being terrified"?! lol
100,000 of them are non-factor when Shanks is here

 

[Finalbeta]

you think trolling can saves you?

lol

the highest ranking member in world government respect and fear Shanks far more than they respect or trust marine

I think what they mean is that they would not go there by themselves to deal with them and it needs to send 3 Marine admirals to deal with his crew which equates to the Marine side remaining exposed fundamentally.