Speculations Can we really assume that Zoro will fight Venus because of the Shodai?
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I mean, the Gorosei are basically Imu's commanders. So unlike Big Mom, and most other bosses of the arc, Sanji and Zoro are not exempt from actually defeating them. That argument is for Kaido, Big Mom, Shanks, Imu, Blackbeard,...the number one big bad of the group. The way we are looking at the Gorosei now is essentially the way we used to look at the likes of Cracker, Katakuri, Jack,King, Queen,....., as strong and terrifying opponents that required the SHs to power up to defeat them.
So sure, while nothing is concrete and Oda could switch up his minds later on, more than likely Zoro and Sanji each will face a Gorosei, especically considering their interations in Egghead.
So sure, while nothing is concrete and Oda could switch up his minds later on, more than likely Zoro and Sanji each will face a Gorosei, especically considering their interations in Egghead.
It’s looking that way, but I don’t feel any of Zoro swords be considered better than Yoru. I want Zoro to absolute dominate in both reality and the perception of the public.
“Zoro beat Mihawk, he’s the strongest”
“Yeah but Mihawk sword is the strongest”
so wouldn’t it make sense for the strongest swordsman, to have the strongest sword? leaves doubt on his new title. I would need another round for me to be convinced. Zoro>mihawk
“Zoro beat Mihawk, he’s the strongest”
“Yeah but Mihawk sword is the strongest”
so wouldn’t it make sense for the strongest swordsman, to have the strongest sword? leaves doubt on his new title. I would need another round for me to be convinced. Zoro>mihawk
This isn't about King tho.
Oda didn't consider Zoro important enough to defeat Big Mom, and BM is less relevant than the Gorosei.
Why do think this clown mangaka will make Zoro vs Venus happen if he couldn't even make Zoro fight against BM.
Sure you can call them commanders. But they are the most important entities in the story along with Imu.
Let me prove my point by using the yonko ranking system equivalency. Lets say Shanks is similar to Imu and Benn/Yasopp/Roo/Hongo/LimeJuice are similar to the Gorosei.
Do you think any of these commanders is as important as Shanks? The clear answer is no.
While on the opposite end, the Gorosei are equally important as Imu.
Calling the Elders as commanders doesn't diminish their plot relevance which is why I said Zoro who is a commander and not so important to the plot would not defeat Gorosei.
Oda didn't consider Zoro important enough to defeat Big Mom, and BM is less relevant than the Gorosei.
Why do think this clown mangaka will make Zoro vs Venus happen if he couldn't even make Zoro fight against BM.
Sure you can call them commanders. But they are the most important entities in the story along with Imu.
Let me prove my point by using the yonko ranking system equivalency. Lets say Shanks is similar to Imu and Benn/Yasopp/Roo/Hongo/LimeJuice are similar to the Gorosei.
Do you think any of these commanders is as important as Shanks? The clear answer is no.
While on the opposite end, the Gorosei are equally important as Imu.
Calling the Elders as commanders doesn't diminish their plot relevance which is why I said Zoro who is a commander and not so important to the plot would not defeat Gorosei.
Your perception is that Zoro's swords are worse than Yoru, my perception is that ranks are meaningless, we're dealing with sword mumbo jumbo and Zoro's swords will absolutely be better than Yoru. The metal is irrelevant, haki trumps all and Zoro's haki will make his swords stronger than Yoru and maybe even create a new rank.
Every organisation is structured the same way:
A leader(s) and the executives.
World Government is not different.
Surely, the Elders have more plot relevance than other commanders but are they really that much different from Rayleigh and Oden?
Not really, those two had quite a big impact on the story as well.
Each of them will likely have a distinct plotline and be tied to Ohara/Wano/whichever place to link them with whoever they end up facing but in the end they are just glorified Enel priests...
Blindly worshipping their god which leaves not much for individual desire in the grand scheme.
Nothing really stops Zoro of all people from beating them. If it was Imu, there would be a point that there is no narrative and ancient conflict between the two but an Elder who might be tied to Wano against Zoro who has ties to Wano seems like a given.
A leader(s) and the executives.
World Government is not different.
Surely, the Elders have more plot relevance than other commanders but are they really that much different from Rayleigh and Oden?
Not really, those two had quite a big impact on the story as well.
Each of them will likely have a distinct plotline and be tied to Ohara/Wano/whichever place to link them with whoever they end up facing but in the end they are just glorified Enel priests...
Blindly worshipping their god which leaves not much for individual desire in the grand scheme.
Nothing really stops Zoro of all people from beating them. If it was Imu, there would be a point that there is no narrative and ancient conflict between the two but an Elder who might be tied to Wano against Zoro who has ties to Wano seems like a given.
Cool story, back then I was on MH arguing the same against Zoro haters, the only ones I saw pushing for the remote possibility of King vs Sanji happening.
If any Zoro fans were scared of King being Sanji fight, then they're just as bad as Hellblazer at picking up matchups.
That's sad, man.
If any Zoro fans were scared of King being Sanji fight, then they're just as bad as Hellblazer at picking up matchups.
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TBH he spoke truths, I was among the Zoro fans who at first didn't want Zoro to fight King while he was on rooftop 
TBH not like I didn't see the possibility of Zoro vs King, I just didn't want him to fight King at that moment because he was shining on Rooftop 
It was obvious he'd get his 1vs1, and King was always telegraphed to be his opponent, but Oda found a way to give us both the scar moment and his regular end-of-saga fight.
But don't be on the side doubting Nasujuro now.
