Character Discussion "Coby is the new Garp so he should be a "RiVaL" of Luffy"

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Yes, koby can sense missiles, luffy and sanji, zoro definitely can't
They legit fought top tiers less than 50 chapters ago and you're telling us Coby outclasses them because he can sense missiles? lmao. The missile sensor seemingly wasn't working so well against the Kuja arrows.

Hancock is leagues above jinbei, stronger then every yc1
Hancock's probably stronger than Jimbo but she's not leagues above him. And there is not a single YC1 that couldn't fold Hancock in a fight unless they're a simp like Helmeppo. In sheer raw fighting skills, Hancock is more comparable to a Tobi Roppo than a YC1. She's hard carried by her hax. A bit of self-control is all it takes for any YC1 to mop the floor with her.

lol And he would've but he didn't want the pacfista to attack.
Lol What? The Pacifista were murdering the Kuja before Hancock petrified Koby's men. He was forced to half the attack because his men would die.
 
They legit fought top tiers less than 50 chapters ago and you're telling us Coby outclasses them because he can sense missiles? lmao. The missile sensor seemingly wasn't working so well against the Kuja arrows.
Show me one panel of the kuja hurting him, crazy how fodders can land a attack on him but hancock couldn't several times....
Hancock's probably stronger than Jimbo but she's not leagues above him. And there is not a single YC1 that couldn't fold Hancock in a fight unless they're a simp like Helmeppo. In sheer raw fighting skills, Hancock is more comparable to a Tobi Roppo than a YC1. She's hard carried by her hax. A bit of self-control is all it takes for any YC1 to mop the floor with her.
What? Troll post, hancock clears any yc1, bb destroyed marco the strongest yc1, hancock received more hype then that lol, don't know why you're taking his fruit from her like taking haki from swordsmenship.
Lol What? The Pacifista were murdering the Kuja before Hancock petrified Koby's men. He was forced to half the attack because his men would die.
Right and also he expressed interest in not fighting.
 
Who knows... Koby might "accidentally" eat some OP devil fruit while being held hostage by Blackbeard. The man has been stockpiling them like crazy after all. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities if Oda wanted to go this route to make Koby super powerful, super fast. He did it with Sabo and the Mera Mera no Mi, after all. And if Koby supposed to be more like Sengoku, than Garp, then I can see it being a Mythical Zoan.
 

Gol D. Roger

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Show me one panel of the kuja hurting him, crazy how fodders can land a attack on him but hancock couldn't several times....
Coby did not fight the Boa sisters before BB's entry. Where did the bloody face come from? From fighting the hidden top tiers of her crew?:yasu:

What? Troll post, hancock clears any yc1, bb destroyed marco the strongest yc1, hancock received more hype then that lol, don't know why you're taking his fruit from her like taking haki from swordsmenship.
BB took all his allies to fight Marco and co while he almost snapped Hancock's neck with sheer physical strength. Even someone as physically imposing as Big Mom needed outside assistance to take out Marco in a similar setting. That's not receiving better hype in any sense. BB has no self-control, so he probably couldn't resist Hancock's charms that well. That doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

Hancock's fruit is her own ability and it has its own pros and cons. We have to address both to determine how good she is. There is a reason why I was making sure to mention the "unless they're simps" part because I acknowledge that anyone would get one shotted if they're simps. Fodders were able to keep their senses against her despite being attracted to her charms and tried to attack her at MF, but they were too weak to keep up with her. Coby did something similar too. And if they're able to do it, high-level fighters with strong wills and self-control should also deserve the benefit of the doubt.


Right and also he expressed interest in not fighting.
Once again, he's trying to get her to surrender. That's not the same as he didn't want to fight. The fact that he's got a bloody face proves he was fighting them before reaching the castle. And the fact that the Pacifista were slaughtering the Kuja before Hancock took the stage isn't helping your case either.
 
Coby did not fight the Boa sisters before BB's entry. Where did the bloody face come from? From fighting the hidden top tiers of her crew?:yasu:
Show me the panel where they hurt koby, come on, it's not like zoro and luffy were getting damaged from fodders during raid. Anyways regarding that they can damage him but hancock couldn't? explain.
BB took all his allies to fight Marco and co while he almost snapped Hancock's neck with sheer physical strength. Even someone as physically imposing as Big Mom needed outside assistance to take out Marco in a similar setting. That's not receiving better hype in any sense. BB has no self-control, so he probably couldn't resist Hancock's charms that well. That doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.
The main fight was still bb vs marco not changing nothing and per marco words he couldn't get past that gura fruit lol. And they got low-diff
BB caught hancock with a sneak attack imrpessive but still per bb words no men can resist that.
. Coby did something similar too. And if they're able to do it, high-level fighters with strong wills and self-control should also deserve the benefit of the doubt.
What he do? stop with this headcannon "strong will" bb said no men can resist it
Once again, he's trying to get her to surrender. That's not the same as he didn't want to fight. The fact that he's got a bloody face proves he was fighting them before reaching the castle. And the fact that the Pacifista were slaughtering the Kuja before Hancock took the stage isn't helping your case either.
So koby went from bruise, to more bruises, to less bruises in a couple panels despite not fighting them, what's going on? explain the sequence.
 
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Gol D. Roger

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Show me the panel where they hurt koby, come on, it's not like zoro and luffy were getting damaged from fodders during raid. Anyways regarding that they can damage him but hancock couldn't? explain.
There is evidence suggesting he's been hurt. You don't have to see it on the panel to prove it happened. This is downright denial. He fought his way through and received damage. The island's top 3 weren't involved in the fight, meaning the Kuja arrows hurt him, period.

The main fight was still bb vs marco not changing nothing and per marco words he couldn't get past that gura fruit lol. And they got low-diff
BB caught hancock with a sneak attack imrpessive but still per bb words no men can resist that.
At least, Marco made BB use GGnM lmao. Don't care what BB says, she's weak enough to get killed by a base BB's grip. That's no Marco-level material. Even Sugar can take out BB if he's presented with a convenient scenario. That changes nothing.

What he do? stop with this headcannon "strong will" bb said no men can resist it
And Coby did it, which means BB's wrong. I never said YC1s will not be attracted to her, I said they won't go simp mode as Helmeppo and others did. You have to get hit by one of Hancock's attacks to be petrified. You can always avoid her attacks even if you're attracted to her if you don't go into simp mode, the same way fodder WB pirates tried to attack her despite being attracted to her.

So koby went from bruise, to more bruises, to less bruises in a couple panels despite not fighting them, what's going on? explain the sequence.
No offense, but you are either the biggest liar in the forum or you're too clueless to even understand what you're saying. The blood stains on his face were evidently consistent throughout the entire chapter:

 
well Coby having some blood doesn't mean anything, Zoro got same identical bruise against numbers.


and the number wasn't even the problem, according to Zoro fodders were "strong".


so it makes sense for Coby to be hurt from kujas, don't downplay him because of a little bruise.
 
There isn't no epilogue why do you keep coping? mihawk is coming before admiral lol.

Luffy went from Kat level to Kaido level in like a couple weeks.

Of course the one who has the fastest growth rate in the series will catch up, idk about rival since he's joyboy. still stronger then zoro, kidd>luffy has more of a chance then zoro and luffy being on the same level.
There's a reason why even kid/law are portrayed to be below Zoro in terms of feats coz it's bad writing to make them better when they're just side characters. And then you want a weakling and a fanboy to be stronger than Zoro? That's worse than Naruto writing wise
 

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