Character Discussion "Coby is the new Garp so he should be a "RiVaL" of Luffy"

Even if he sacrifices himself, that means nothin
Smoker is at G14, he either pursues Luffy after Egghead or join Garp against Blackbeard, either way Smoker is winning.
Coby will be the Luffy fangirl marine hero who protects civilians
Smoker aka “The White Hunter” & “Mad Dawg of the navy” is someone who wants to beat the shit out of Luffy not fangirl about him in princess tea parties. This has been set since Logue Town how hard can it be
I understand you are a huge smoker fans and this is the reason you want diminish Koby and want rule out character grow .
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We know every time he and luffy run into one another he gets one shot. No way this man is any man is luffys Garp. That roles always been smokers.
You think smoker not getting one shot ?
Also did'nt Kaido one shotted luffy ?
How that went ?
 
I understand you are a huge smoker fans and this is the reason you want diminish Koby and want rule out character grow .
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You think smoker not getting one shot ?
Also did'nt Kaido one shotted luffy ?
How that went ?
Kaido one shot Luffy once, luffy did it literally both times against Coby. Cobyhamarus not even on luffys radar. But luffy wants to fight smoker who almost captured him multiple times.
 
We know every time he and luffy run into one another he gets one shot. No way this man is any man is luffys Garp. That roles always been smokers.
There is something you guys need to learn about one piece but also real life logic .
The weaker you are the easier it is to get stronger.
If luffy can get to getting one shotted by base form kaido to compete with him in hybrid without needing his gear 4 so can Coby .
Or he can do something realy similar we know luffy started with a huge head start.
Lets say luffy was level 20 at the beginning of one piece and Coby was 1 .
Luffy in marine ford was level 70 (including his gears)and Koby around 15. (Coby got 15 times stronger in 4 months but luffy a little more then 3 times in the same amount of time )
Notice that luffy head start of training 10 years in his island was nothing compare to the grow he got by fighting strong guys on the sea ?
Then both luffy and Koby realise how weak they are decide to get much stronger in marine ford (Luffy it is to protect his crew .
Koby it is to surpass luffy and reach his goal to be admiral .
Koby went to garp and ask him to teach him about haki this is basically what luffy did with rayleight .
SO lets say they both got a 100 increased after time skip.
Luffy post time skip 170
Koby post time skip 115. (IM kind to luffy because the time he was calmly fighting in an island with a safe spot Koby was in the new world fighting ex xebec pirates and stuff )
At the end of the day the biggest level you can be is 500 and if Koby and luffy have the same top potential Coby will eventually catch up.
Because if you put him in situation similar to luffy he will exp faster then him .
This is only logical its not because luffy had a head start that he will always be much stronger .
Gear 5 tought is serious business and I wonder what Oda will give Koby to match it ?
The thing I love about oda is his creativity.
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Kaido one shot Luffy once, luffy did it literally both times against Coby. Cobyhamarus not even on luffys radar. But luffy wants to fight smoker who almost captured him multiple times.
this is false Luffy do want fight Koby .
He legit said to zoro that he know he created a strong foe in Coby.
 
I understand you are a huge smoker fans and this is the reason you want diminish Koby and want rule out character grow
Coby will grow at some point but he will never resemble what Garp once was to Roger/ Pirates
Garp is: 1. Hero of the Marines & 2. Demon to pirates
This role will be split into two, Coby takes “1” and The White Hunter takes “2”
 

Kaido one shot Luffy once, luffy did it literally both times against Coby. Cobyhamarus not even on luffys radar. But luffy wants to fight smoker who almost captured him multiple times.
Luff only did it once lol
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Coby will grow at some point but he will never resemble what Garp once was to Roger/ Pirates
Garp is: 1. Hero of the Marines & 2. Demon to pirates
This role will be split into two, Coby takes “1” and The White Hunter takes “2”
Smoker is not a demon to pirates. Not even in the slightest. Currently pirates know more about koby than smoker lol. Boa knows him. Her sisters know him. Blackbeard a yonko knows him and has history with him lol
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For all those saying coby won't amount to much both zoro and luffy disagree with you



This was after coby telling luffy he will be admiral
 
Coby will grow at some point but he will never resemble what Garp once was to Roger/ Pirates
Garp is: 1. Hero of the Marines & 2. Demon to pirates
This role will be split into two, Coby takes “1” and The White Hunter takes “2”
yes they can both be garp but Koby was way more hinted as luffy nemesis in the navy then smokey.
Zoro never said about smoker that he will ba a dangerous foe and koby sweared to luffy that he was going to capture him this is way more symbolic .
Smoker want see if Luffy will realy be PK .
Coby want to surpass luffy ,
 
Is that why Doflamingo, Ace and Crocodile know about Smoker? He literally drew YC1 Ace in a fight :suresure:
Coby is better known as the captive princess
Cool none of them are of the caliber of people who know coby lol.

Boa, blackbeard, king riku and his people, boas sisters. Each put respect on his title as hero which makes this debate even more funny.

Aces wasn't yc1 level nor did he have the position. Besides blackbeard the person whom defeated Ace has respect for coby lol
 
Cool none of them are of the caliber of people who know coby lol.

Boa, blackbeard, king riku and his people, boas sisters. Each put respect on his title as hero which makes this debate even more funny
Haha that is actually truth BB was legit talking to Koby with respect and this caught me off gard.
The pirate know Coby as the marine hero tought smoker do have a reputation that he got form logue town it was said that no pirate was able to get out from him but sadly in the new world he need to reafirm that to be concidered.
Because right now I only see Koby getting past him .
HIs potential clearly look highter .
Smoker is also not from luffy generation when Koby started his navy adventure the same day luffy started his own .
Wich lead us to a RED and BLUE narative .
 
Won't be as strong as Luffy, maybe not even Garp. Will he be an admiral?

Well, he needs more conviction to at least hace CoC so we can know he has some potential. Hard to see anyone above Yc1 not having CoC.
 


Time for Coby wankers to take a look at the cold, hard truth.

Can you imagine Garp bowing down to Rayleigh & Roger and saying that it'd be impossible to walk their paths?



Can you imagine Garp reading about Roger in the newspapers & shivering with tears in his eyes & snot in his nose about how much Roger has grown?



Can you imagine Garp sitting around with a couple of princesses and talking about how he likes/fanboys over Roger?



Being called the new "Hero", having good CoO, Rokushiki is all nice & dandy; Coby is someone who's going to become a future Admiral for damn sure, but that's all he'll be - a weak admiral in a weak, peaceful era.

Expecting him to fight Luffy to the death at EoS, to the point where they "almost killed each other dozens of times" is pure nonsense.
Expecting him to be stronger than even EoS Sanji (who's damn near guaranteed to beat an Admiral) is also nonsense.

Coby isn't a "rival" of Luffy's like Kid or Law, he's a fanboy.

Coby might as well join Luffy's harem of princesses given he was the first "damsel in distress" who was saved by Rupee-chin.

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Nuclear Launch detected. Coby fans hurting bad.

 
Being called the new "Hero", having good CoO, Rokushiki is all nice & dandy; Coby is someone who's going to become a future Admiral for damn sure, but that's all he'll be - a weak admiral in a weak, peaceful era.​
Saying he will be a weak admiral is cap tho

He is FAR more likely to be a CoC user than Ryokugyu or Kizaru. Both of them are just Akainu's dogs, they do whatever he and the WG says unquestionably.

Whereas Koby was willing to stand up to Akainu, despite being far weaker.


Koby will be one of the few admirals who will have ACoC. In the same category as Sengoku imo.
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Koby is portrayed as a haki prodigy, he is in the same vein as Luffy and Zoro in this regard. All three were the only ones who unlocked haki pre-skip.
This means that Oda can asspull Koby's powerlevel to whatever heights he wants, as haki as a power system just works that way.

Oda can deadass have Koby leaving Hachinosu or Elbaf as a low top tier. He can have him train for ryuo, which would give him ACoA and ACoC and make him jump 10 power levels like Luffy and Zoro did in a single arc.
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But I'll be conservative, as that seems like a bit of a stretch.

Koby will probably learn ryuo from Garp in hachinosu/elbaf, making him YC level. Then unlock ACoC in the final war, making him admiral level.
 
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Both Koby and Smoker are joke rivals in terms of strength. People like to call Law and Kid cheerleaders but these 2 marine clowns are worse, they’re fans up in the bleachers cheering for Luffy
 
Both Koby and Smoker are joke rivals in terms of strength. People like to call Law and Kid cheerleaders but these 2 marine clowns are worse, they’re fans up in the bleachers cheering for Luffy
Smoker will get the same power up that Law and others got. Wouldn't be surprised if the same happens to Koby as well
 
Smoker will get the same power up that Law and others got. Wouldn't be surprised if the same happens to Koby as well
My point is whatever power up he gets won’t be enough to be considered the new Garp. He will probably still be weaker than Law.

there’s no new Garp, Smoker and Koby will ultimately side with Luffy to take down the WG. Something Garp never did with Roger
 
My point is whatever power up he gets won’t be enough to be considered the new Garp. He will probably still be weaker than Law.

there’s no new Garp, Smoker and Koby will ultimately side with Luffy to take down the WG. Something Garp never did with Roger
Yeah there is no new Garp, Luffy is the Garp of his generation and in terms of being a major marine rival for Luffy that's Akainu
 
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