Character Discussion Did Kaido acknowledged Zoro as a monster samurai like Oden?

did kaido acknowledged zoro as a monster samurai like oden?


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#81
Zoro used haki completely fine before onigiri and used haki completely fine and even better after onigiri because he was using enma more

Zoro somehow forgetting to use haki against him especially after knowing about luffys training and seeing luffy use haki to hurt him makes a lot of sense
 

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#82
Zoro used haki completely fine before onigiri and used haki completely fine and even better after onigiri because he was using enma more

Zoro somehow forgetting to use haki against him especially after knowing about luffys training and seeing luffy use haki to hurt him makes a lot of sense
ZORO DIDNT FORGET ANYTHING
FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME ZORO IS REGULATING HIS HAKI WITH ENMA TO KEEP IT STABLE
He has to baby sit that sword.

I will end any nonsense you have with these panels.




Ryou is FLOWING HAKI
Luffy at this point in the manga CANNOT USE RYOU TO HURT KAIDO BECAUSE HE CANNOT FLOW HIS HAKI (FLOWING CHERRY BLOSSOM)


Here zoro who your negative iq ass say EVEN AFTER THIS DOESNT HAVE RYOU AND ITS JUST ENMA

Flows his haki out of enma back into himself

We see above flowing haki/ryou is needed to hurt kaido at that point luffy couldn't do it

We see zoro can flow his haki

Yet somehow you have the gall to say he doesn't know ryou.

Bodied.
 
#83
ZORO DIDNT FORGET ANYTHING
FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME ZORO IS REGULATING HIS HAKI WITH ENMA TO KEEP IT STABLE
He has to baby sit that sword.

I will end any nonsense you have with these panels.




Ryou is FLOWING HAKI
Luffy at this point in the manga CANNOT USE RYOU TO HURT KAIDO BECAUSE HE CANNOT FLOW HIS HAKI (FLOWING CHERRY BLOSSOM)


Here zoro who your negative iq ass say EVEN AFTER THIS DOESNT HAVE RYOU AND ITS JUST ENMA

Flows his haki out of enma back into himself

We see above flowing haki/ryou is needed to hurt kaido at that point luffy couldn't do it

We see zoro can flow his haki

Yet somehow you have the gall to say he doesn't know ryou.

Bodied.
Zoro was able to control and regulate his haki as soon as he stepped foot into onigashima

Zoro used haki on kaido
Zoro didn't cut kaido
Zoro said he needed to use enma more
Zoro uses enma more
He cuts kaido

Haki is ryou
 
#84
He needed enma to do so no
Zoro before he got enma couldn't cut kaido
Zoro explicitly said he needed to use that specific sword more after he failed to cut kaido

After being able to perfectly use haki ever since he got to onigashima and after seeing how luffy hurt kaido and after being told about luffy needing to train his armament in order to hurt kaido
he was a ryo user so no he didn't need enma to cut him like what 9 rs did any ryo user can do it but for permanent scar yes he need it
enma is a catalyzer that alow him to gain better control on his haki (both coc and coa) and don't limit him self in battle
although we don't know the full potential of enma we probably will see it when it become BB i don't think grade of blade is just for quality measurement and cursed blade are basically just better blades compared to same grade blades we probably will see more swords with special ability like enma
 

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#85
Zoro was able to control and regulate his haki as soon as he stepped foot into onigashima

Zoro used haki on kaido
Zoro didn't cut kaido
Zoro said he needed to use enma more
Zoro uses enma more
He cuts kaido

Haki is ryou
Zoro didn't use haki on kaido on oni giri
The swords are all plain

No haki no haki no haki at any point

Haki on his swords

Yes I know he can regulate his haki dumbass that's what I'm fucking telling you
It's not a one off thing he has to KEEP doing it or else enma will take his haki because even then HE DIDNT HAVE CONTROL OVER ENMA
Zoro doesn't use haki
Doesn't cut kaido

Uses haki
Cuts kaido

I love how you've ignored the panels above as usual running cause you've been bodied AGAIN
 
#86
he was a ryo user so no he didn't need enma to cut him like what 9 rs did any ryo user can do it but for permanent scar yes he need it
enma is a catalyzer that alow him to gain better control on his haki (both coc and coa) and don't limit him self in battle
although we don't know the full potential of enma we probably will see it when it become BB i don't think grade of blade is just for quality measurement and cursed blade are basically just better blades compared to same grade blades we probably will see more swords with special ability like enma
Zoro used haki and failed to cut him
Kaido felt pain but there was no cut till enma was being focused on by zoro

The scabbards are likely just more proficient from the jump. Even kaido was beyond confused at their ability to cut him but they were able too. And its not like kaido is new to wano doesn't know anything about it. He even fought the other daimyo
Zoro didn't use haki on kaido on oni giri
The swords are all plain

No haki no haki no haki at any point

Haki on his swords

Yes I know he can regulate his haki dumbass that's what I'm fucking telling you
It's not a one off thing he has to KEEP doing it or else enma will take his haki because even then HE DIDNT HAVE CONTROL OVER ENMA
Zoro doesn't use haki
Doesn't cut kaido

Uses haki
Cuts kaido

I love how you've ignored the panels above as usual running cause you've been bodied AGAIN
The scabbards didn't use haki on their swords either i guess

Zoro had perfectly fine control over enma before the sword started testing him. Very convenient that every other time before that point zoro was using haki and enma completely fine but the first time he attacks kaido it act up only then
 

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#87
Zoro used haki and failed to cut him
Kaido felt pain but there was no cut till enma was being focused on by zoro

The scabbards are likely just more proficient from the jump. Even kaido was beyond confused at their ability to cut him but they were able too. And its not like kaido is new to wano doesn't know anything about it. He even fought the other daimyo

The scabbards didn't use haki on their swords either i guess

Zoro had perfectly fine control over enma before the sword started testing him. Very convenient that every other time before that point zoro was using haki and enma completely fine but the first time he attacks kaido it act up only then
LMFAOOOOO
You've been bodied by the panels
We talking zoro not anyone else.
Anytime Zoro uses haki its shown clearly

He didn't use haki on kaido the first time. Fact. Then he did use haki.
No one is saying enma is acting up then moron.
It's zoro was holding back too much on his haki because once again He was baby sitting enma.
 
#88
LMFAOOOOO
You've been bodied by the panels
We talking zoro not anyone else.
Anytime Zoro uses haki its shown clearly

He didn't use haki on kaido the first time. Fact. Then he did use haki.
No one is saying enma is acting up then moron.
It's zoro was holding back too much on his haki because once again He was baby sitting enma.
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When he uses armament hardening coating obviously but zoro doesn't need to make his swords black to use haki
Like when he cuts steal he uses haki it doesn't need to be black

Zoro was using haki against apoo but against kaido he got nervous and had to hold back
 

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#89
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When he uses armament hardening coating obviously but zoro doesn't need to make his swords black to use haki
Like when he cuts steal he uses haki it doesn't need to be black

Zoro was using haki against apoo but against kaido he got nervous and had to hold back
Tf you on about ?
Show me post skip where zoro has used haki on his swords and it's not shown
 
#90
Zoro used haki and failed to cut him
Kaido felt pain but there was no cut till enma was being focused on by zoro

The scabbards are likely just more proficient from the jump. Even kaido was beyond confused at their ability to cut him but they were able too. And its not like kaido is new to wano doesn't know anything about it. He even fought the other daimyo

The scabbards didn't use haki on their swords either i guess

Zoro had perfectly fine control over enma before the sword started testing him. Very convenient that every other time before that point zoro was using haki and enma completely fine but the first time he attacks kaido it act up only then
he barely used any haki he just need to use more unlike 9rs he wasn't going all out (9rs was in sunnachi mode aka do or die mode)

i don't think they are more proficient than zoro he was just controlling his haki output he limited it to much 9rs was in sunnachi mode with every thing they had zoro wasn't i don't think just using a little ryo is enough

i think problem was that he was controlling enma to much and was limiting his haki output latter we learned that he need to completly unleash his haki to be able to fully control enma and when he unleash his haki other 2 sword also did what enma was doing all of them was coverd in AdCoA and AdCoC
 
#91
Tf you on about ?
Show me post skip where zoro has used haki on his swords and it's not shown
Whenever he cuts steal and him cutting monets cheek
Other than that its just guess work like with everyone else

We know zoro was perfectly capable of using haki before and after onigiri until enma tested him mid king fight
Makes no sense to assume in that moment alone enma was holding him back

If your gonna fight kaido and know that you need haki to do real damage or just know in general that haki makes your attacks stronger makes sense youd use it. Especially when you were using before on someone fodder to kaido
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he barely used any haki he just need to use more unlike 9rs he wasn't going all out (9rs was in sunnachi mode aka do or die mode)

i don't think they are more proficient than zoro he was just controlling his haki output he limited it to much 9rs was in sunnachi mode with every thing they had zoro wasn't i don't think just using a little ryo is enough

i think problem was that he was controlling enma to much and was limiting his haki output latter we learned that he need to completly unleash his haki to be able to fully control enma and when he unleash his haki other 2 sword also did what enma was doing all of them was coverd in AdCoA and AdCoC
I never heard about sunnachi mode being a thing before so...idk
 
#93
Whenever he cuts steal and him cutting monets cheek
Other than that its just guess work like with everyone else

We know zoro was perfectly capable of using haki before and after onigiri until enma tested him mid king fight
Makes no sense to assume in that moment alone enma was holding him back

If your gonna fight kaido and know that you need haki to do real damage or just know in general that haki makes your attacks stronger makes sense youd use it. Especially when you were using before on someone fodder to kaido
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I never heard about sunnachi mode being a thing before so...idk
zoro probably underestimate how tough kaido is and didn't used to much haki later we did see he was using much more haki an all of his sword specially enma

Sunacchi was a word that wano people used when they was going all out with out caring for they're life 9rs was going all out and did what ever they could with every single attack

i call it Sunacchi mod
 
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#94
Whenever he cuts steal and him cutting monets cheek
Other than that its just guess work like with everyone else

We know zoro was perfectly capable of using haki before and after onigiri until enma tested him mid king fight
Makes no sense to assume in that moment alone enma was holding him back

If your gonna fight kaido and know that you need haki to do real damage or just know in general that haki makes your attacks stronger makes sense youd use it. Especially when you were using before on someone fodder to kaido
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I never heard about sunnachi mode being a thing before so...idk
We never see his sword when he cuts monets cheek

No one is saying that. Zoro doesn't just use haki all the time in fights because HAKI IS FUCKING FINITE AND ZORO HAS A PROBLEM SWORD HES REGULATING.

How does zoro know that when he's not faced kaido before lmfao

You have no argument.

I'm glad you bought up cutting steel.
Because cutting steel is ryou
And like the scabbards the sword doesn't need to be black


Because what zoro did vs Mr 1 taught by koshiro (a decendant of a wano native)

And hyou showing luffy RYOU

Is word for word the exact same thing

Proving once again zoro could already cut kaido regardless of enma.
 
#98
No he just acknowledged that he had Odens sword. I have trouble deciding if Zoro is stronger than Oden maybe his is because Kaido was probably weaker 29 years ago.
 
#99
so im genuinely curious realy think that kaido acknowledged zoro as a monster samurai like oden?

honestly it was more like mocking for me even zoro him self was disappointed

if zoro don't get another chance to prove him self i thing its another minus point for him in this saga (character wise)
so far he said
1. he will gather and guide samurai (didn't do it)
2. will avenge yasuie (didn't do it)
3. will cut kaido to pieces (just cut him twice and it get healed quickly)

i will be clear i don't think kaido or anyone else will be killed in this ark but i hope he get another chance to prove him self and get kaido's acknowledgement (although its not likely at this point)

we probably will see kaido in future so it also can happen in other arks
Kaido will acknowledge Zoro in his dying moments when ZKK. :cheers:
 
He couldve said a simple: Oh youre like Oden! You’re strong!,etc but instead he said: Itll leave a scar and thats enough from you.
To me it doesn't seem like a proper adulation in the sense that he was equating zoro to oden, because even factually now Zoro considers himself inferior to someone who easily wielded enma. So Kaido stating such ; "This should be enough for you" , to me, means zoro doing what he did is ample for his current level but it doesn't exempt zoro's potential with enma and generally as a samurai after achieving such a feat.

In other words Zoro is the potential monster samurai kaido alluded to Oden in comparison to but that monster samurai just isn't a monster like Oden as kaido beats his possibly final breaths but has shown his potential as one by scarring kaido and thats exactly why Kaiod considered Oden a monster for.
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Swordsmen with basic Ryuo can cut Kaido's scales. Kiku even pierced Kaido's hand. Zoro, being proficient in Ryuo, already unlocked it pre TS when cutting Daz down and had two more years to train with the WSS, master conscious usage and get it to a high level. Zoro who dices a mountain in base, one shots Pica through his full body Haki and is seen using Ryuo so strong you see black fluid leaking from his blades.



But yeah, that Zoro can't achieve what Kinemon, Kiku and Kawamatsu did. The delusion.

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Did a scabbard cut Kaiod's scales? did i miss something..

the whole time they were shown burying their swords on the front side where there weren't any scales.
 
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