Powers & Abilities Does Kuzan have CoC?

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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#90
your" Godbeams"are a visuall effect ,sometimes the anime does give good visualization of things, the manga isn‘t able to show in black and white .
It’s not a visual effect because it overlaps the exclamation marks and drama lines behind it just like the smoke and black lightning.

If it were a visual effect, it wouldn’t overlap the actual visual effects like black lightning and smoke do. It is an AdCoC indicator.
 
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#92
It’s not a visual effect because it overlaps the exclamation marks and drama lines behind it just like the smoke and black lightning.

If it were a visual effect, it wouldn’t overlap the actual visual effects like black lightning and smoke. It is an AdCoC indicator.
Around the center of their clash ,there is clearly white light,and the "beams"you are talking about i circled are white (would be complicated to draw in a black and WHITE manga)
and looking where the beams are coming from it tells me that is a visual coming from the middle of their clash.

Overlaping effect really?
We are at an age of animation that overlaping other effects is an widely used tool for bringing depth into an animation.

What are the confirmed indicators of an COC Haki clash in the manga,so we stay inside the manga?

Skysplitting ,mostly seen in the high tier realm,Black lightnings drawn during and before the clash by Oda ,and no touching pointed out by Law and Oden in the manga.
did any of those 3 scenarios happen during Garp and Aokijis clash, except the black lightning during the clash?
 
#93
So many faulty arguments and I'm wondering why.

- Sky splitting requires an actual collision of powers and you might even argue it's more of a cloud split anyway, means a cloudy sky is partially required aswell.

- Not every CoC coating or infusion creates the non touching effect. That only happens, when CoA blasts - barrier or ID CoA - get infused with CoC. Swordsmen and other weapon user obv want their weapon to touch the opponent. For example Yamato only used that weapon enhancing tech and Kaido mostly aswell.
If they used CoC here, they just infused their hands instead or in Kuzan's case the ice glove directly.

With that said:
Oda knows what's up in the community and he's a troll. You can be damn sure that he knows, that the fandom wonders whether or not the admirals actually have CoC. Probably recieved 100s of SBS questions about it already.
So no, far in contrary to what many people are saying, Oda is exactly the type of author who would handle that shit extra subtle, so that we will have to wait some further weeks for actual confirmation.
Remember how clearly he portrayed the first Thunder Baguas from Yamato and Kaido as adv CoC attacks? Yeah me neither.
Where were all those obvious visuals during both Kamusaris? W/o some Kid pirates fainting we still couldn't be sure whether CoC was used or not.
It's the same man that kept some random hybrid forms hidden for years just for the surprise factor.
And it's the same man who makes us suffer every year from Silhouette piece. So please don't act like he's the kinda guy, who would "show it clearly".

The aftermath explosion + the trails and the sheer power of that, what would otherwise just be CoA hardened punches, makes me think they used CoC. That's why Kuzan had the smallest attack prep panel ever and Garp even had none.
 
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#94
Yes. It's probable that all of the admirals have CoC. We know Sengoku is confirmed to have it, Garp has it too. Looking at the impact of Garp's and Aokiji's clash, it looks like they both used it. It wouldn't even make sense to Aokiji to create the same outcome with mere armament as compared to CoC coating, especially against someone like Garp.

Rayleigh said, that CoC is often found among those who've made a name for themselves, while Chinjao said that the seas is full of conquerors. With several high tiers having displayed CoC, why wouldn't someone like Aokiji have it, who is considered one of the 3 strongest officers of the Marine HQ, admiral and fleet admiral candidate and the WG's strongest military force, who is worth 3 Billion and can destroy commander level characters.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
I wish I could delete advCoC from the story such a shit ability, no one knows what it is, no one knows what it looks like, no one even knows what it does.

All I know is Kuzan and Garp matched outputs, and created a large haki blast after landing. Ultimately results is what should matter but we're stuck doing coc formulas thanks to an incompetent author.

There is no way Garp doesn't have advCoC anyway so we know Kuzan is keeping up with that.
 
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