Powers & Abilities Don't fall for recency hype — Roger will always reign supreme

[Blahmigooo]

I believe Oda will give Roger some hype....
But you can't use how ppl in the op world put WB and Roger the only two equal as if they all lnow Rocks exist.

Oda is careful about destroying the logic and power structure he created in the beginning.
That's why he makes Rocks a forgetten legend to the masses, who was erased from history.
Rocks is 100% the parallel of BB who is going to be the biggest challenge/rivals for prime Luffy (with Imu)
If that's the case Rocks is ~ Roger, there's a chance that EoS BB could be slightly above Luffy,
Rocks being > than Roger is a bigger possible when his son gonna rival the next Joyboy

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

But you can't use how ppl in the op world put WB and Roger the only two equal as if they all lnow Rocks exist.

Whitebeard, Shiki, Kaidou, Chinjao... all know Rocks existed as they were active during his era. And the narrator put Whitebeard as Roger's equal. Roger's hype mainly comes from people who either knew Rocks or were part of his crew. Pretty much none of my arguments depends on people ignoring Rocks existed, so I don't see your point here.

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This panel sounds so weird, when she says 15? Ahh to young!!! Did BM wanna sleep with Kaidou or what?

Big Mom didn't say Kaidou was "too young" but was nostalgic about having such young age. "Ahh to be young" equals "Ah, those good days of youth".

 

[Blahmigooo]

Whitebeard, Shiki, Kaidou, Chinjao... all know Rocks existed as they were active during his era. And the narrator put Whitebeard as Roger's equal. Roger's hype mainly comes from people who either knew Rocks or were part of his crew. Pretty much none of my arguments depends on people ignoring Rocks existed, so I don't see your point here

Yes Shiki, Chinjao hinting Xebec existence during Dressrosa/pre-skip is off the menu.
All WB = Roger > everyone portrayal was before Rocks enter the story
Kaido was the only one post-Rocks reveal that put Roger at the top, he's the only saving grace that Roger is > Xebec which we will see if it's true

Xebec feats are something else, he looks like a guy only below OG Joyboy among pirates. Sengoku confirming he is the biggest rival to Roger put him already in the same breath as WB = Roger if not higher.
He was removed from history, and the only person that was removed along with him was Joyboy/Nika and anything related.
Being BB father/parallel who has 50/50 chance to be final boss and clash with Joyboy/Nika of today's era, is enough to put him at worst Roger/WB tier.

 

[nik87]

>Roger will always reign supreme

Blud has been failing at logic for 26 years straight.

 

[eamonpro]

Roger didnt conquer the world
His achievement is Finding JBs treasure

Buggy statement isnt truth since he didnt know anything about Rocks

And Rocks Goal is the harder than Finding Laugh Tale

If king of the world is harder than finding laugh tale why hasn't the current king of the world who wants to stop piracy entirely found laugh tale? checkmate roger deniers
To be the freest in the sea requires no threat to be able to touch you.

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Yes Shiki, Chinjao hinting Xebec existence during Dressrosa/pre-skip is off the menu.
All WB = Roger > everyone portrayal was before Rocks enter the story
Kaido was the only one post-Rocks reveal that put Roger at the top, he's the only saving grace that Roger is > Xebec which we will see if it's true

Xebec feats are something else, he looks like a guy only below OG Joyboy among pirates. Sengoku confirming he is the biggest rival to Roger put him already in the same breath as WB = Roger if not higher.
He was removed from history, and the only person that was removed along with him was Joyboy/Nika and anything related.
Being BB father/parallel who has 50/50 chance to be final boss and clash with Joyboy/Nika of today's era, is enough to put him at worst Roger/WB tier.

Put from another perspective, he was able to be removed from history, while roger wasn't
I absolutely agree that Rocks is much stronger than the Rogers we have seen (mostly) but I do think the Roger that became pirate king probably had just tipped past him in power

 

[Rej]

Roger was a Rookie when Rocks was at his peak.

But I agree with the legacies. Prime Roger was probably stronger and had a greater impact.

Nevertheless, both accomplished great individual things that noone else has accomplished before. (Offending Imu/Finding Laugh Tale)

 

[[No Name]]

Exactly, GOATED thread.
People miss how Pirate King is the conqueror above conquerors.
Roger is above Prime WB.