Manga Discussion Edens Zero

I think it has something to do with Hermit and Sister. The flashbacks were interesting and what picked up my interest was Valkyrie and Brigadine.

What if the flashbacks of Dark/Shining Stars come from the time when Granbell was a theme park? They all visited it and some tragedy occurred which led Ziggy to rebuild them into droids.

Another take would be that Dark/Shining Stars weren't always working for Ziggy but actually for the big bad and Ziggy removed their memories of such times.

I also suspect Rebecca from 20 thousand years in the future. She was said to be dead but her body was totally fine. What if she is the one who called the chronophage on Ziggy when he went to go back in time with Etherion on Edens Zero?

Or even Saintfire Nox herself?
Oh I like your second guess a lot!
I think Mosco is the true enemy. Sister and Clown work for him. I think they’re all from Universe 0. Mosco's full name is "Mosco- Versa 0". Versa 0 = Universe 0?
We haven’t seen Sister and Clowns flashback and Clown knows the true meaning behind Etherion. Sister has also the ability to erase memories (she did it with Kleene). Maybe she erased her own memories too in order to become the perfect spy
 
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Formerly Seth

Oh I like your second guess a lot!
I think Mosco is the true enemy. Sister and Clown work for him. I think they’re all from Universe 0. Mosco's full name is "Mosco- Versa 0". Versa 0 = Universe 0?
We haven’t seen Sister and Clowns flashback and Clown knows the true meaning behind Etherion. Sister has also the ability to erase memories (she did it with Kleene). Maybe she erased her own memories too in order to become the perfect spy
That's so meme lmao. But I don't think it will be Mosco, Hiro said that fans predicted Ziggy being from the future/another universe but they didn't get who is behind it all.

People were joking about big bad being Mosco or Hermit for some time now from what I saw on the internet.

I would also like to place my bet on Professor Weisz. It is a bit sus we haven't seen him ever since well forever:milaugh:

Muller said something interesting that I think a lot of people overlooked, Professor Weisz came up with a few ideas that he didn't put into books or reveal to other students and disappeared.

There is also Cure who is now defeated but the existence of a such person is crazy to me, man with power enough to create Oracion Seis Galactica level threats and also reshape the story enough to grow Oracion Seis Interstellar members to fight them.


Although the person is on the ship from what Hermit deduced. I'm really, really interested in what Hiro is cooking up for this.
 
That's so meme lmao. But I don't think it will be Mosco, Hiro said that fans predicted Ziggy being from the future/another universe but they didn't get who is behind it all.

People were joking about big bad being Mosco or Hermit for some time now from what I saw on the internet.

I would also like to place my bet on Professor Weisz. It is a bit sus we haven't seen him ever since well forever:milaugh:

Muller said something interesting that I think a lot of people overlooked, Professor Weisz came up with a few ideas that he didn't put into books or reveal to other students and disappeared.

There is also Cure who is now defeated but the existence of a such person is crazy to me, man with power enough to create Oracion Seis Galactica level threats and also reshape the story enough to grow Oracion Seis Interstellar members to fight them.


Although the person is on the ship from what Hermit deduced. I'm really, really interested in what Hiro is cooking up for this.
I hope we learn his/her identity within the next 1-2 chapters
I can’t wait anymore
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Kaede Cosmos Saga:
X495 arc: ✔️
3 years have passed, and we are in the Kaede Cosmos on Planet Sweeds.
We see Shiki and Pino next to him, walking through the city.
We see Hermit giving them info about the core.
Shiki and Pino go down to Core 1.
We see Rebecca next to Core 2, she's an Ultra Popular B-Cuber now.
We see Weisz and Homura next to Core 3.
We see Justice and Victory discussing Edens Zero crew's actions. They reveal that Edens crew saved 17 planets from Ziggy's influence over the last 3 years.
The Prayer Council determined that Shiki has become a threat to the universe, The Demon King Shiki is recognized as one of the Oracion Seis Galactica.
We see Couchpo, Moscoy, and Sister talking to Rebecca about her career.
We see Jinn and Laguna discussing the last 3 years of following in Ziggy's footsteps. We see Kleene, Homura, Sister, and Rebecca in the bath.
The crew rescues Captain Connor who is revealed to be working in Ziggy's droid factory which gives Shiki a clue.
Connor reveals that the planet with Ziggy's factory is Planet Lendard.
Rebecca talks to Master Noah, he reveals we are in Universe 3 now.
Noah reveals the concept of the Multiverse.
The crew talks to Elsie, and they talk about Planet Lendard, Elsie is heading there because she knows Ziggy will be there.
We see a massive army of droids overlooked by Dark Stars including the new Brigadine and Killer Mark 2 versions and Ziggy himself who confirms they will be waiting there for Ziggy to finish this once and for all.
Edens Zero crew discusses the upcoming war plan for the Lendard invasion. They will join Elsie's fleet.
Feather from Oracion Seis Interstellar leads an ambush on the Edens Crew.
Rebecca uses Overdrive with her powers.
Connor offers to help crew get away.
Holy reveals that she will be taking over from now on.
Edens Crew lands on Planet Dahlia.
They chill in the water park.
Holy is there too, she offers an alliance. She reveals her plans to kill Deadend Crow who allied with Ziggy. He caused the Bloody Atmos Day Incident.
Labilia talks to Rebecca and reveals her terminal illness and the fact that Rebecca inspired her to become a B-Cuber.
Shiki tells Holy that they can ally but under the condition that she comes aboard Edens Zero ship for the time of the operation. Holy accepts.
Hermit takes her on a trip around the ship, they finally arrive in the bath sector. Holy is from the Yukino Cosmos. She reveals that all Cosmoses represent different seasons.
Sakura = Spring
Aoi = Summer
Kaede = Fall.
Yukino = Winter.
Together they are called: The Grand Shiki Cosmos. Where Shiki stands for "Four seasons".
Ziggy is using Edens One to calculate a route to the Mother.
Hermit lays out the plan for the crew, she reveals they will want to lure the Chronophage to Lendard with help of Rebecca's powers, the Operation Plater Eater.


Lendard arc: Ongoing
The war begins, the alliance between Edens Zero, Elsie Crimson, and Holy attacks the planet!
The dragons are revealed to be protecting the planet by orders of God Acnoella, another Oracion Seis Galactica member who helps Ziggy.
Ziggy tells Acnoella that he must destroy Shiki who is a threat to the Cosmoses. The alliance fights off against the Dragons.
Homura goes into her Knight Gear: Warrior Maid 95.
Hermit tells Holy that she knows her past and she should use their equipment too per Shiki's orders.
Elsie goes to the palace to meet Ziggy.
Ziggy reveals that Planet Lendard was once the most prosperous and feared but Elsie thought it was a bad idea and started handing out the secrets of the kingdom which ultimately resulted in a war.
Ziggy vs Elsie begins. Ziggy tells her that Shiki is a threat to the universe. They fight and Elsie gains the upper hand until Ziggy starts speaking as if he became the old Ziggy again, only to trick Elsie and stab her with a gravity sword. He gains the upper hand and beats up Elsie. He prepares for what looks like a final attack but just in time, Justice comes in to take Elsie away.
Edens Zero ship encounters Deadend Crow, Holy is enraged by seeing him.
Shiki, Weisz, Homura, and Rebecca go to the Colosseum, and they encounter Dark Stars there. They create a subdimension to separate the crew from each other.
Weisz vs Killer, Rebecca vs Clown, Shiki vs Wizard and Homura vs Brigadine.
Hole goes inside Steel Sorceress 94 Knight Gear to fight Crow.
Shiki fights Wizard, he goes into Overdrive and Wizard uses Battle Dress.
Everyone fights the Dark Stars.
Shiki one shots Wizard after letting loose, he became more powerful than anyone could expect.
Justice interrogates Elsie and tells her that the entire Interstellar Union Army is coming to Lendard to defeat all of the Oracion Seis Galactica.
Rebecca fights Clown and gets an upper hand on him but then he uses Battle Dress.
Weisz fights Killer, he uses Overdrive, Killer reveals a healing tube with Weisz's mother's body.
Labilia encounters Killer and Clown who invaded the Edens Zero ship.
Sister and Hermit vs Clown and Killer.
Shiki keeps seeing the memories of Shining and Dark Stars together.
Hermit uses Overdrive. She defeats Killer but he self-destructs and infects Hermit with the virus.
Homura goes into Overdrive and defeats Brigadine but she is badly injured, Sister still fights the Clown. She heals Hermit and overcomes Clown's powers.
Shiki, Weisz, Homura, and Rebecca get into some sort of factory and see dozens of healing tubes with bodies in it.
Ziggy greets them there and reveals that there is a special kind of Ether only human mothers possess.
Ziggy pulls one of the tubes and reveals the body of Saintfire Nox who is revealed to be Rebecca's mother.
Ziggy reveals that Saintfire Nox is still alive.
Ziggy plans to collect the special Ether produced only by Human mothers to get to the Mother of the Cosmos herself and destroy her so no humans can be born after that.
Ziggy teleports himself with Shiki to another location.
The final battle begins, Ziggy vs Shiki, grandpa vs grandson!
Shiki immediately goes into Overdrive.
In another one of the shots of 20 thousand years into the future, astronauts find the Edens Zero cube and get life readings from it.
The Edens ship crew fights Crow, Holy is able to melt part of his body but he instantly swallows her up and they can't fire the cannon.
Another 20 thousand years later scene.
Astronauts are actually bots, they want to recover the body and take it to Planet Eden.
Back to the present, Deadend Crow goes into Overdrive and smashes the ship away.
Shiki smashes Ziggy's mask and he notices a familiar face.
Holy wakes up inside Crow, he manifests before her, she tries to attack him but her Ether powers are disabled. She reveals that he slaughtered all people on Atmos Day and by that her sister too.
Jinn and Laguna arrive to rescue Holy.
Kleene cancels the Ether Jammer which allows Jinn, Laguna, and Holy to use their Ether powers.
Ziggy's face is revealed! He looks like older version of Shiki.
20 thousand years later again. Planet Eden.
Back to the present, Ziggy reveals that he is Shiki but from 20 thousand years in the future.
Ziggy says he's from an alternate universe.
He reminds Shiki of his choice 3 years ago on Nero 66 when he decided to get out. Ziggy is Shiki who decided to stop the explosion. He used his Gravity powers to compress all 20 thousand bombs to destroy them. When he compressed the bombs with his gravity it resonated with Rebecca's power to jump in time and caused a spacetime distortion. It caused Shiki, Rebecca, and 20 thousand bombs to jump in time 20 thousand years later.
Ziggy's body was too much destroyed and he had to be rebuilt into a bot meanwhile Rebecca was dead but her body was used to work on as a research specimen.
20 thousand years in the future the human race is exciting. Ziggy kept living a life like a machine and with time he forgot who he really was and who Rebecca was to him.
Ziggy met up with some council who deduced that without Mother soon every robot in the cosmos will cease to exist.
All universes have the same fat but one. Universe Zero.
Ziggy is tasked with going back in time using Rebecca's powers 20 thousand years in the past to prevent the extinction of the human race.
The council wants to help Ziggy by building a spaceship that goes through time, the Edens Zero, which goes from Planet Eden to Point Zero.
Code 3173 Etherion is actually a power to travel through time, not a weapon like all Shining Stars thought because Ziggy told them.
In Universe 3173 Ziggy doesn't exist but Shiki sets out to space and fights in the Aoi war which causes the time jump after compressing the antimatter bombs on Nero 66. We are in Universe 3 which exists outside the wheel of time.
Ziggy goes into Overdrive!
Sister and Hermit question the reason they were created because if Ziggy doesn't exist in Universe 3173, they also shouldn't.
Holy, Laguna and Jinn fight the bots inside Crow, and at the same moment Crow strikes Kleene down.
Pino goes to find Ziggy. Shik vs Ziggy continues.
Cure is inside Crow.
Cure played with life and death by creating evil and later fighting it off with light, he gave Drakken and Nero their powers so later they can be defeated and bring Union Army closer to light.
Holy melts the source of Crow's power but Cure connects himself with it to repair it.
Eraser uses his power to create a hole in Crow's body for the Edens crow to shoot it down, Feather upgrades the trajectory and Edens Zero uses the Star Bringer Cannon and blows Crow into pieces.
Pino arrives in front of Ziggy.
For the entire time of 13 years Cure was behind Crow's actions. It was his greatest creation but thanks to this war Eraser and Feather were able to discover the truth.
Connor is Rebecca's father.
Ziggy was hacking Pino to get all information about Edens Zero.
Ziggy knew he was going to go crazy so he put the key to destroy him inside Pino. Pino goes into Overdrive!
Pino uses EMP in Overdrive and it brings back the old Good Ziggy for the time being, he tells Shiki to kill him before it's too late.
Ziggy reveals that he was taken over. On the quest to find Universe 0 an anomaly in the Etherion happened.
Right before the time jump, a chronophage came in contact with the ship. He ended up in Universe 1 not 0.
He lost all memories except for his name. The ship exploded right in front of him and he named the Planet: Granbell after this sound.
He rebuilt the ship and set out on a quest to find Mother but found Shiki along the way but he can't say where he did it. He died and the rest of the story is what we follow now but his body was taken over.
The memories from his life as Shiki that came from 20 thousand years in the future, were things that were told to him. The only thing he remembers is the time spent with Shiki on Granbell, he still thinks of him as his grandson.
He reveals that the true enemy is here on Lendard.
Ziggy wants to say Shiki's enemy's real name but he can't.
Ziggy will suppress his ether to its lowest level and then he wants Shiki to strike him down with Black Sky.
Ziggy cries and begs Shiki to kill him.
Hermit appears to have a clue about who the enemy is.
Elsie is freed at the end of the chapter.
Hermit needs to see Elsie's medical records.
God Acnoella goes into Overdrive and summons the Dragons to fight Justice.
She reveals that she uses Mobius: The Lendard Kingdom's great invention. The Perpetual Mecha Soldier Birthing machine.
She destroyed countless planets with the overwhelming might of Dragons.
Elsie cuts Acnoella in half before she finishes her speech.
Acnoella was actually Elsie's mother.
Elsie uses the Grand Chariot to completely destroy her mother.
Elsie takes over the Mobius system.
Elsie deactivates all Dragons.
Ziggy tries to tell the true enemy's name but he can't before Shiki does anything evil Ziggy is back and he erases or teleports Pino somewhere, Shiki thinks she was destroyed and is enraged and goes into Overdrive.
Shiki remembers their past and notices Ziggy is pulling the same moves he did when Shiki was younger and Ziggy admits it is true. Shiki is crying while charging up the Black Sky.
Shiki destroys Ziggy, Pino is back through a wormhole.
Shiki thanks his grandpa for everything.

@God_Aizen @Cross_Marian @Jaguark101 @Krusher1357 @EtenBoby
Caught up!

I had to write this one separately because my first reply which included Sakura Cosmos Saga and Aoi Cosmos Saga had too much characters typed and I couldn't post:milaugh:
good that you like it :)
EZ is one of the best manga curently. Imo.
 
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Formerly Seth

yeah, future Rebecca could be, since she is Etherion. But why old Weisz?
We have never seen Professor Weisz aside from the flashbacks and transmission on the ship after they fled and young Weisz joined the crew. This is very sus to me. I know Hiro might probably just don't want to have to explain how Professor Weisz and young Weisz coexist in the same world without the collision between space and time but I found it very sus that he was never present after this.

Muller revealed that Professor Weisz had some insane ideas that he came up with but he never shared them with other people and kept his mouth shut about what he found out.

What if Professor Weisz saw the exact moment Rebecca leaped back in time before the accident that killed happy occurred?

Rebecca spent some time with the Professor when she was younger, what if he found out the truth behind her powers before anyone else and with his genius copied/stored/absorbed some of Rebecca's powers in a way that she would not remember?

Although I have nothing aside from this, I can't think of a reason for which Professor would do all of that, although he fit the timeline since, by the time Ziggy found Shiki, Professor Weisz was present and educated/genius already.
 
We have never seen Professor Weisz aside from the flashbacks and transmission on the ship after they fled and young Weisz joined the crew. This is very sus to me. I know Hiro might probably just don't want to have to explain how Professor Weisz and young Weisz coexist in the same world without the collision between space and time but I found it very sus that he was never present after this.

Muller revealed that Professor Weisz had some insane ideas that he came up with but he never shared them with other people and kept his mouth shut about what he found out.

What if Professor Weisz saw the exact moment Rebecca leaped back in time before the accident that killed happy occurred?

Rebecca spent some time with the Professor when she was younger, what if he found out the truth behind her powers before anyone else and with his genius copied/stored/absorbed some of Rebecca's powers in a way that she would not remember?

Although I have nothing aside from this, I can't think of a reason for which Professor would do all of that, although he fit the timeline since, by the time Ziggy found Shiki, Professor Weisz was present and educated/genius already.
Interesting. Weisz is sus you are right. And maybe he will really be the true villain or is his ally or something like that. If he is it, then I will know his motives for that. Can't wait to see who the big bad will be. :amazing:

but maybe Müller is the true big bad :steef:
 
@Krusher1357 @God_Aizen @Jaguark101 @Seth @Boris D. Foot

the true enemy is…

… the Edens One
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so it’s an artificial intelligence made by Mother or something like that? I don’t know if I like it or not. I’m just confused. The E1 has nothing to do with Ziggy and Elsie's memory. How did Hermit come to this conclusion. Maybe it’s a red herring
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I will post the other pictures later
 
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@Krusher1357 @God_Aizen @Jaguark101 @Seth @Boris D. Foot

the true enemy is…

… the Edens One
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so it’s a artificial intelligence made by Mother or something like that? I don’t know if I like it or not. I’m just confused. The E1 has nothing to do with Ziggy and Elsie's memory. How did Hermit come to this conclusion. Maybe it’s a red herring
Is the Narrator confirming this or we can assume it's another piece of technology controlled by the Final Villain?
 
Is the Narrator confirming this or we can assume it's another piece of technology controlled by the Final Villain?
Hermit tells it to Shiki
Short summary:
- Eraser brings Homura to Weisz and Rebecca
- Shiki also shows up, he has now the Wormhole ability. Ziggy gave it to him
- The Chronophage is coming. The EZ crew prepares for their departure
- Hermit tells Shiki the identity of the true enemy
- The E1 appears before the E0
 
@Krusher1357 @God_Aizen @Jaguark101 @Seth @Boris D. Foot

the true enemy is…

… the Edens One
Post automatically merged:

so it’s an artificial intelligence made by Mother or something like that? I don’t know if I like it or not. I’m just confused. The E1 has nothing to do with Ziggy and Elsie's memory. How did Hermit come to this conclusion. Maybe it’s a red herring
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I will post the other pictures later
Hiro strikes back. He is really a troll. :milaugh::josad:

Is the Narrator confirming this or we can assume it's another piece of technology controlled by the Final Villain?
I hope that the E1 is conntroled by the final villain. Or Hiro trolls, and he doesn't mean the ship, but the person who is inside the ship. Also maybe future Rebecca or someone else? Would be strange if a ship is the final villain.
 
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Formerly Seth

Hermit tells it to Shiki
Short summary:
- Eraser brings Homura to Weisz and Rebecca
- Shiki also shows up, he has now the Wormhole ability. Ziggy gave it to him
- The Chronophage is coming. The EZ crew prepares for their departure
- Hermit tells Shiki the identity of the true enemy
- The E1 appears before the E0
Wow, out of all potential suspects, it's actually a ship the Eden One.

Ngl, it is original.
 
Hiro strikes back. He is really a troll. :milaugh::josad:


I hope that the EO is conntroled by the final villain. Or Hiro trolls, and he doesn't mean the ship, but the person who is inside the ship. Also maybe future Rebecca or someone else? Would be strange if a ship is the final villain.
my guess is that the ship is representing the will of someone, like Zetsu from Naruto. Btw the ship was also on this double page
 
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Formerly Seth

I think its the person inside the ship. Not the actual ship it self lol
my guess is that the ship is representing the will of someone, like Zetsu from Naruto. Btw the ship was also on this double page
I told it to @God_Aizen

It will be Professor Weisz, scroll through some of my replies I explained it.
 
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