Future Events Elbaf Plot Points. What Will Happen?

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Also, concerning Blackbeard, if Caribou actually leaves Egghead with Laffitte instead of going forward to Elbaf with Luffy then I wouldn't be surprised if Blackbeard goes ancient weapon hunting (either to Wano or FMI, maybe both?) while strawhats are busy doing whatever on Elbaf.
 

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Also, concerning Blackbeard, if Caribou actually leaves Egghead with Laffitte instead of going forward to Elbaf with Luffy then I wouldn't be surprised if Blackbeard goes ancient weapon hunting (either to Wano or FMI, maybe both?) while strawhats are busy doing whatever on Elbaf.
Are we really confident caribou is linked with BB and not man with Burn scar?
 

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Motivation and ambition are not the same thing. Ambition is something you want to do and motivation is the reason why. From Oden’s flashback it seems Roger’s motivation for wanting to reach Laughtale was just about adventure and seeing every island. Oda could retcon that but at the moment we don’t really know the why he wanted to go to Laughtale just that he wanted to do it.

What are the motivations and ambitions of people like Rayleigh and Katakuri? Garp dented Chinjao’s drill and quit being a pirate. Everything about Yamato was made up, we saw Ace have it in a flashback and that was it and then there’s Kid
So they go hand in hand and coincide with one another? They’re virtually one and the same….

& no you are inherently wrong he wanted to be the absolute freest and by divine luck he met Rayleigh hence “together we will turn the world upside down” knowing that it was more than fate that brought the two together. Freedom, Romance, adventure. & Roger possessed the VoaT a rare commodity it’s only been shown to be shared with Luffy - Joyboys predecessor, there is a reason why WB & many others state it’s not you who Roger is waiting for at Laugh Tale. He was destined to fulfill his role as PK and bring g change to the world as a messiah. Ace wa Shia north hold so it’s genetically imbued in him and WB saw that potential and wanted to make him the PK not for his own ambition but for Roger’s.

rayleigh is the right hand man of the PK it’s been heavily implied he had carried the WSS title prior to Mihawk and Luffy already stated he would expect nothing less from the PK rhm foreshadowing is a heavy thing this series. Katakuri had the ambitions of being the strongest for his brothers and siblings so nobody fucked with them the way he was picked on as a child. He’s the one all the siblings look up to. His goal and reasoning is larger than himself. His motivation to protect them at all cost hs been shown. His FS is an indication to his abilities of trails and triumphs to reach his level as that isn’t unlocked unless fighting others with said abilities..

Chinjao was already a king and a conqueror, yea he lost and lost his spark but it was brought back from Luffy. Joker lost so he doesn’t deserve conquerors? Yamato was made up so the entire story of Oden was made up? You do realize luffy is very similar as he wants to be just like shanks and Roger’s and he emulates shanks freedom for being a pirate. Yamato is also child of Kaido one of the baddest person we’ve actually seen so far….

so you named 4 that doesnt even sound like half and you couldn’t even give any reasoning. For them not to have CoC.
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Also, concerning Blackbeard, if Caribou actually leaves Egghead with Laffitte instead of going forward to Elbaf with Luffy then I wouldn't be surprised if Blackbeard goes ancient weapon hunting (either to Wano or FMI, maybe both?) while strawhats are busy doing whatever on Elbaf.
we still have madam Shirley’s premonition of Luffy obliterating FMI so it’s not far off I originally speculated it would be Bobbins v Luffy when we figured he was actually going to be a badass and live up to his name the Destroyer. Gues soda gave that shine tk the Calamities.
 
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this doesn't even answer what I actually asked.

I asked what Kingly ambitions do Sanji and Nami have?

In no world are you having 5 members on a 10 man crew all capable of having Conquerors which is stated to be rare even among the top and all those that we've seen it all have actual ambitions and are monsters in their own right:


Post timeskip we've been introduced to what a total of 10 new Haoshoku users 1-3 in each arc where the one that is on the crew took the longest running arc and his homeland to awaken.

Hancok. Chinjao, Joker both King/Queen of a ruling country - Warlords
Shanks, Kaido, BM Yonkos - rulers of the seas
Rayleigh/Zoro: Right Hand man of the freeset pirates
Yamato, Katakuri, Luffy: Genetics - ambitions
Garp/Sengoku: Old Man Rivals of the PK
Kidd I have no idea Luffy's rival?

no we are not going backwards here.
Rocks: xebec, whitebeard, kaido, big mom, shiki and possibly more.

Roger: Roger, rayleigh, oden, possibly gaban.

The two main crews had plenty of conquerors, being a PK lvl guy must have as number 1 requirement to be able to make that many conquerors submit to you which is what luffy gonna do.

Kingly ambition doesn't need to be strictly related to force.

Katakuri's was about protecting his family, chinjao about getting as much money as possible, yamato about becoming oden/protecting wano.

Non confirmed, but for sure conquerors:

Momonusuke: opening the borders, protecting wano and something to do with swordsmanship.

Koby: becoming the strongest marine.

Usopp: brave warrior of the sea which is an euphemism for conquering his own fear.

Nami: drawing a map of the whole world which is something that no one ever did, sounds pretty kingly to me.

Sanji: yet another conqueror whose ambitions revolve around protecting his friends, finding the all blue and some very germa 66 ancient kingdom plot yet to be revealed.
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Oden and momo have it too tho.
 
Other option atm, have a read:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ysical-lunarian-god-ruling-over-giants.37495/

I think Elbaf will primarily have its own problems moreso than anything, but Im hoping it does the following:

- Addresses their God (as mentioned in my link)
- Addresses Warland and what I assume is a region perpetuated by Giant belief that they must war with other Giants or countries in the region
- Urouge is hopefully involved (along with sky lore)
- Kid obviously
- I semihope Underworld related stuff is here, because VP and Stussy beign around leave so much potential for that.
- Closes out Big Mom's overall plotline (either via some offhand comment or her crew actually does show up for x reason).
- If the above is true, addresses some bits of Rocks when possible.

I have no idea if Yonko or Marines/WG will be involved (Shanks I specifically doubt since he literally just left the island, and Burned Man I doubt as well for the reason above and the fact that he roams on a ship), but my hope is that it feels very adventuresque since it might be one of the last times the series can achieve it.
I still want an entire arc focused on underworld
 
I still want an arc entire focused on underworld
Same, my true hope is Stussy reveals some sort of direct connection to this place (and Rocks) since she is both a clone and also an Underworld Emperor.

We'll see in the end how it works out, but either the Underworld is central to Elbaf somehow (out of protection), or maybe its the island after Elbaf where Law was going.

None of these emperors seem to have their own headquarters outside of Morgans, so I would assume they all meet somewhere to discuss stuff.
 
Same, my true hope is Stussy reveals some sort of direct connection to this place (and Rocks) since she is both a clone and also an Underworld Emperor.

We'll see in the end how it works out, but either the Underworld is central to Elbaf somehow (out of protection), or maybe its the island after Elbaf where Law was going.

None of these emperors seem to have their own headquarters outside of Morgans, so I would assume they all meet somewhere to discuss stuff.
Pleasure district seems to be a place/headquarters
 
Winter Solstice Festival, semla, more lores about Nika
More revelations leading to Laugh Tale and Void Century
Usopp and Mjolnir
Saul
Zoro learning a variation of Hakoku
Straw Hat Pirates vs. Elbaf "villains"
(Potentially) Meeting between Luffy and Dragon as the Revolutionary Army fetches Vegapunk
Straw Hat Pirates and Revolutionary Army going back to Wano
 
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We'll see in the end how it works out, but either the Underworld is central to Elbaf somehow (out of protection), or maybe its the island after Elbaf where Law was going.
It can be easily tied in, if Oda has the time. Elbaf's culture is one of warring and honor. Maybe pirates from around the world come here to test themselves and are sunk a la Kid before even reaching shore. Nearby there could be a Jaya-like small island specialized in collecting the defeated crews' ships and weaponry and reselling them on the black market. Warland itself could be a giant junkyard of the defeated used to find good scraps to re-sell to the Underground and their arm-dealers.
 
What's fascinating with Elbaf is how little we have to go off of but if if we consider the things Oda has repeatedly brought up during Egghead:

- Vegapunk first and foremost.
- Bonney and Kuma's plot, is it tied to Elbaf too?
- Stussy and her ally as a cloned Rocks Pirate. How important is Rocks to Elbaf? Or the Underworld?
- The Burned Scar Man and his identity, is he tied to Elbaf or something after?

Barring any Marine/WG affiliation (which may be the case), we dont exactly have a concrete path as to what Elbaf will actually focus on outside of this. Internal issues are a given, but there has to some narrative tisdue to connect to future stuff.

A good example is Dressrosa. Its "mostly" a Doflamingo centric arc about his control of a kingdom. But it also involves the Smile subplot and Fujitora. What will Elbaf resolve but also set up for the clear endgame after it?
 
Thinking back about Big moms flashback in Elbaf, the WG has always been a focus for plotlines connected to Elbaf. Even Big Moms flashabck is about her and other children in Elbaf being sold to the World government. Not to mention, the day Mother Carmel disappeared was also the day the world government came to pick up the kids.

The WGs connection to the Elbaf arc has already been strongly established and it makes sense for them to be a main villain for it.
 
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