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TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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But I am not.

> I've said she agreed with him on made up reads and that's an issue

> You said that's Kiwi's biggest issue

> I say so now you acknowledge it to be an issue


> Then you say it's not an issue

Is it clear now?
A burglar in my house is an issue.
Ants on my eggsalad is also an issue.

Do you understand the difference there? What someone could maybe (my wording there) pinpoint as Kiwi's biggest issue is agreeing with 2/3rd's of Midnight's made up sus list. But she did not copy them, which you so kindly asserted.
Hoping onto Midnight's apparent reads and agreeing with them
The same reads Midnight said he faked and just choose people randomly
You're setting Kiwi up here for her to be piggy backing off reads. Which is wrong. You even push that in this post which is nuts to me.

Right. That's why we are here agreeing that Rayan is sus, agreeing that Kiwi was sus for sheeping on it, acknowledging it as an issue and furthering the talks about it. Crazy, right?
I never said Kiwi was sus or that she was sheeping. Stop spreading lies. If you interpreted anything that way, it wasn't intentional.

Rayan is someone who I felt was the most sus — and so you realize that this isn't me saying I scum lock him, there is a scale here — until you came along of course. Compared to you, Rayan is a saint.

Those are not biases outside the game though. Your not on my list because your powerscaling is wrong or your sig is terrible or other shit like that, it's because you convolute the game.
IDC why I'm on your list. The fact remains it's for reasons outside the game itself. When Rayan or Kiwi were your primary sus targets, instead of pressuring them with your post, you... Didn't vote them? So you can keep a joke vote on me for some reason? And don't interpret this as me caring about your vote on me. I care about the fact you didn't act on either of them and you double down on me when I question you.

As far as I can tell, you're still only keeping the vote on me 'cause I'm opposite of you here.
Again, I am not really sure what you mean. I literally put myself there. If I didn't want to do that I wouldn't have. Simple as that. I could have dropped some generic sup guys comment and leave it at that. However, I wanted to share MY thoughts which I have accumulated, and make known what appeared to me as odd.
Posting puts yourself out there. The idea it'd turn around on you like this? Yeah, I really bet that wasn't what you imagined was likely. So the defense that "Scum wouldn't do this" does not hold up.
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you seem to expand more on rayan and kiwi a lot more than him.
I'd love to know why —besides his original reasons— he suses me. I'm confident it's because I disagree with him.
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
@Light D Lamperouge think I have a grasp of why tac thinks you are sus tho I slightly disagree with it
what are you reasons to push a case against him since you have hugged this narative of me or him
you seem to expand more on rayan and kiwi a lot more than him.
I've mentioned it already Lanji. TAC makes the game more difficult that it needs to be and judging by what I saw while skimming the thread didn't really do much at all, just giving some mechanics and shit like that. Only now has he been more active and trying to defend himself.




What someone could maybe (my wording there) pinpoint as Kiwi's biggest issue is agreeing with 2/3rd's of Midnight's made up sus list. But she did not copy them, which you so kindly asserted.
Lmao. I've said she agreed with his made up reads, you've even now said she agreed with his reads, but me saying she agreed with his reads is different somehow. Are you following what you are saying br0?
I think you don't understand that we are saying the same thing.


You're setting Kiwi up here for her to be piggy backing off reads. Which is wrong. You even push that in this post which is nuts to me.
How am I setting her up to something that she did by agreeing with those reads?


I never said Kiwi was sus or that she was sheeping. Stop spreading lies. If you interpreted anything that way, it wasn't intentional.
I assumed that when you stated that agreeing with fake reads was the biggest issue that you sused her.


Rayan is someone who I felt was the most sus — and so you realize that this isn't me saying I scum lock him, there is a scale here — until you came along of course. Compared to you, Rayan is a saint.
Right. No worries here. I am all up for lynching me if it makes you look like a fool.


IDC why I'm on your list. The fact remains it's for reasons outside the game itself. When Rayan or Kiwi were your primary sus targets, instead of pressuring them with your post, you... Didn't vote them? So you can keep a joke vote on me for some reason? And don't interpret this as me caring about your vote on me. I care about the fact you didn't act on either of them and you double down on me when I question you.
How didn't I double down on them when I went through it with Kiwi and Rayan isn't even here?

As far as I can tell, you're still only keeping the vote on me 'cause I'm opposite of you here.
I don't really do that.


Posting puts yourself out there. The idea it'd turn around on you like this? Yeah, I really bet that wasn't what you imagined was likely. So the defense that "Scum wouldn't do this" does not hold up.
How does simple posting put myself there? We've had multiple people post some arbitrary content and dip and nothing is actually happening to them. I fully knew that this would happen and spark some discussion in a way or two. Which it did.
 
wont say am solid on tac infact almost the opposite.
going a bit hard for kiwi atm
she's here
she can defend herself.
light post long text regardless of alignment as well so I also find your reason for pushing this lynch just as flimsy.
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I've mentioned it already Lanji. TAC makes the game more difficult that it needs to be and judging by what I saw while skimming the thread didn't really do much at all, just giving some mechanics and shit like that. Only now has he been more active and trying to defend himself.





Lmao. I've said she agreed with his made up reads, you've even now said she agreed with his reads, but me saying she agreed with his reads is different somehow. Are you following what you are saying br0?
I think you don't understand that we are saying the same thing.



How am I setting her up to something that she did by agreeing with those reads?



I assumed that when you stated that agreeing with fake reads was the biggest issue that you sused her.



Right. No worries here. I am all up for lynching me if it makes you look like a fool.



How didn't I double down on them when I went through it with Kiwi and Rayan isn't even here?


I don't really do that.



How does simple posting put myself there? We've had multiple people post some arbitrary content and dip and nothing is actually happening to them. I fully knew that this would happen and spark some discussion in a way or two. Which it did.
lol difficult for who?
you mean you just want to get rid of him?:milaugh:
I am here to say seems like you have better reasons to push a case on kiwi or rayan in that case
wont you say
question is why you havent and are fixated on tac instead.


@Kiwipom reasoning for vote on light.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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This'll be my last post for this convo for the day phase. Tomorrow's thanksgiving and I'm not getting up early to argue over Mafia lmao.
I've mentioned it already Lanji. TAC makes the game more difficult that it needs to be and judging by what I saw while skimming the thread didn't really do much at all, just giving some mechanics and shit like that. Only now has he been more active and trying to defend himself.
Oh, I'm not concerned the slightest. I called you out over the quality of your post, not myself. You're confused yet again Lamp man.

Lmao. I've said she agreed with his made up reads, you've even now said she agreed with his reads, but me saying she agreed with his reads is different somehow. Are you following what you are saying br0?
I think you don't understand that we are saying the same thing.
Alright. Let me recap this for you.

I said it could maybe be an issue to someone (ie other people) that Kiwi's sus list is 2/3rds similar to Midnight's, who conjured his up out of some random asshole. But I go on to say Kiwi did not copy or piggyback over Midnight's list and disagreed with him (namely over me).

This means, you can be concerned about Kiwi's judgement if you wanna be really damn picky and pretentious. Not that I, specifically, had an issue.

How am I setting her up to something that she did by agreeing with those reads?
No, you're saying she's blatantly copying his reads though. Which isn't true. You're pushing it in a way that says Kiwi is giving fake/bad reads to purposefully push Midnight's (then thought of) agenda.


I assumed that when you stated that agreeing with fake reads was the biggest issue that you sused her.
No. We all have issues, big and small. And having some bad reads was Kiwi's worst. Which is inconsequential.

How didn't I double down on them when I went through it with Kiwi and Rayan isn't even here?
If I made a big fuck off post about a player or two, I better tail end it with a vote. That's commitment and added fire to get them to talk when they arrive. Tells other players you're serious about them. Your post flopped around at the end and had nothing substantial about it. To me, it reads like a post to be passed off by mafia for the purposes of appearing town.

Okay. So you're keeping the vote on me over...? Again, besides the bs other reason, what do you have over me instead of the sus players?

How does simple posting put myself there? We've had multiple people post some arbitrary content and dip and nothing is actually happening to them. I fully knew that this would happen and spark some discussion in a way or two. Which it did.
Nah nah nah. This is still a weak method of trying to clear your name. Do better. Engaging in conversation does not make you town.
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wont say am solid on tac infact almost the opposite.
going a bit hard for kiwi atm
she's here
she can defend herself.
You're misunderstanding why I'm going after Light. It's because the post quality was so abysmal, if it had been you, Beta, or anyone, I'd of done the same.
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
This whole “OMG Kiwi is sheeping on midnight’s fake sus” argument has honestly gone on for too long. It’s ridiculous

Midnight said he sussed Fuji, Light and TAC
Yeah I agreed on Light and Fuji. And I provided reasoning. I acknowledge that it’s not conclusive. I said it’s flimsy and just the vibes feels off.
hm can't say I disagree with Midnight's reads

Lanji, Light, Fuji -- those three seems a bit off.
Lanji because he seemed to have this 'ah shit here we go again'/annoyed but trying to look chill attitude when I made the jab about the gif
Light and Fuji seems a little serious atm but trying to not be too serious.

Yeah I know these are very flimsy but eh, just saying I agree with Midnight that the vibes feels a little off
How is this sus? I thought he was on the same page as me so I said I agreed and provided reasoning that midnight sheeped off of later. It’s just tunnelling at this point

:lawsigh:
Here’s an L for Law
 
Just feels like two townies focusing on each other while mafia ugly laughs at you both in the background tbh. There wasn’t anything really wrong with your Rayan post tbh, it’s not like you even started a wagon on him, you just posted your thoughts on him. On the flip side, don’t think Tac did anything wrong either.

Midnight is the most interesting person for me at the moment. Dude was panicking like crazy over a few simple votes, and completely abandoned the thread once the wagon shifted from him to you, and it’s not like he’s offline either. I’d much rather see the spotlight return back to Midnight.

That said, you versus Pica is funny.
Make posts
That are like this
Even more throughout the game
And I'll give you a free townread.
Hooray!

You will
Not even need
To buy me dinner first!
Meanwhile, could you please discuss
Some reads?

I'd like
To hear your thoughts
On just a few players.
Larimo, Melon, and Light.
Okay?

Midnight
Is still the best
For elimination.
At least in my personal view.
Vote stands.
 
This whole “OMG Kiwi is sheeping on midnight’s fake sus” argument has honestly gone on for too long. It’s ridiculous

Midnight said he sussed Fuji, Light and TAC


Yeah I agreed on Light and Fuji. And I provided reasoning. I acknowledge that it’s not conclusive. I said it’s flimsy and just the vibes feels off.


How is this sus? I thought he was on the same page as me so I said I agreed and provided reasoning that midnight sheeped off of later. It’s just tunnelling at this point

:lawsigh:
Here’s an L for Law
what vibe did you feel
was it some cold feeling feeling
some chills perhaps,
or a slight sting :milaugh:
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
what vibe did you feel
was it some cold feeling feeling
some chills perhaps,
or a slight sting :milaugh:
Send me a voice clip of you saying you’re town and I’ll give you a detailed response

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LMAO idk if this is on purpose or an accident but +1 to this post
 
This'll be my last post for this convo for the day phase. Tomorrow's thanksgiving and I'm not getting up early to argue over Mafia lmao.

Oh, I'm not concerned the slightest. I called you out over the quality of your post, not myself. You're confused yet again Lamp man.


Alright. Let me recap this for you.

I said it could maybe be an issue to someone (ie other people) that Kiwi's sus list is 2/3rds similar to Midnight's, who conjured his up out of some random asshole. But I go on to say Kiwi did not copy or piggyback over Midnight's list and disagreed with him (namely over me).

This means, you can be concerned about Kiwi's judgement if you wanna be really damn picky and pretentious. Not that I, specifically, had an issue.


No, you're saying she's blatantly copying his reads though. Which isn't true. You're pushing it in a way that says Kiwi is giving fake/bad reads to purposefully push Midnight's (then thought of) agenda.



No. We all have issues, big and small. And having some bad reads was Kiwi's worst. Which is inconsequential.


If I made a big fuck off post about a player or two, I better tail end it with a vote. That's commitment and added fire to get them to talk when they arrive. Tells other players you're serious about them. Your post flopped around at the end and had nothing substantial about it. To me, it reads like a post to be passed off by mafia for the purposes of appearing town.


Okay. So you're keeping the vote on me over...? Again, besides the bs other reason, what do you have over me instead of the sus players?


Nah nah nah. This is still a weak method of trying to clear your name. Do better. Engaging in conversation does not make you town.
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You're misunderstanding why I'm going after Light. It's because the post quality was so abysmal, if it had been you, Beta, or anyone, I'd of done the same.
he post exactly like that in all the games I have been on with him regardless of his alignment
if you dont think the read quality in his post was up to par then thats another topic entirely .
"No. We all have issues, big and small. And having some bad reads was Kiwi's worst. Which is inconsequential."
so from what I can gather, the lengthy post in your mind is a lot more consequential than a bad read. not saying the read here is bad but these are your words.
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Do it.

It's the ultimate way to prove yourself Lanji
lmao
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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he post exactly like that in all the games I have been on with him regardless of his alignment
if you dont think the read quality in his post was up to par then thats another topic entirely .
"No. We all have issues, big and small. And having some bad reads was Kiwi's worst. Which is inconsequential."
so from what I can gather, the lengthy post in your mind is a lot more consequential than a bad read. not saying the read here is bad but these are your words.
I think a post that comes off as pushing the game along but doesn't do much of anything is an issue. I think, for a player like Light, that's indicative of his alignment.

For Kiwi, some bad reads are weird. But those were early in the game when there was barely anything to go off of. I think a post that took effort and I see as flimsy takes precedence over an early game read post from Kiwi, if you jive with me here.
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LANJIIIIIIIII
 
hey just woke caught

midnight: either town or neutral

fuji: leaning on town

kiwi: leaning on scum

zara: town lean

jew: scum he didn’t post a lot and posted a lot of fluff which is not like him
 
I think a post that comes off as pushing the game along but doesn't do much of anything is an issue. I think, for a player like Light, that's indicative of his alignment.

For Kiwi, some bad reads are weird. But those were early in the game when there was barely anything to go off of. I think a post that took effort and I see as flimsy takes precedence over an early game read post from Kiwi, if you jive with me here.
ah in that case I agree
since he seems like he took some effort at it
you would expect something more.
out of his post tho his rayan case , not sure if it was the first was acceptable.

would put light as questionable for now.
seems to have made a better case on kiwi/rayan and is still pushing a tac lynch. your reason has to be a lot more concrete than the existence of certain individuals in the game make it harder. let go of the pain from previous games blokes
:sadgrin:
 

Kiwipom

Ghost Princess
hey just woke caught

midnight: either town or neutral

fuji: leaning on town

kiwi: leaning on scum

zara: town lean

jew: scum he didn’t post a lot and posted a lot of fluff which is not like him
Why no read on TAC and Light who have been going on for so many pages?
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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ah in that case I agree
since he seems like he took some effort at it
you would expect something more.
out of his post tho his rayan case , not sure if it was the first was acceptable.

would put light as questionable for now.
seems to have made a better case on kiwi/rayan and is still pushing a tac lynch. your reason has to be a lot more concrete than the existence of certain individuals in the game make it harder. let go of the pain from previous games blokes
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I don't like the fact you're agreeing with me... It's unnatural.

Waiting for that voice clip.
 
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