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[Owl Ki]

Thanks for spoiler tagging this Lhanks….lol

Bruh, this is the Spoiler section. Lol.

Shi Ba Shou's vassals have impressed, but that can only say so much for the man himself. He needs some feats to even begin having a conversation on how he compares to Tou, who is virtually flawless, deeply experienced, versatile and commands the former Ou Ki Army.

Again, their very first battle, the Seika Army had the advantages in

• numbers
• terrain
• morale
• conditioning

The result: L

edit: lol I just realised I just made pretty much an identical post hours ago

The weaker 1/2 of the Seika Army. Ji Aga is the strongest warrior subordinate while Kan Saro was said to be the greatest General overall.

The Gaku Ka needed Shin to save them from the arse whooping they were handed by Gakushou while Shin himself was stalled for for a time by JKR alone.

The subordinates of Shibashou have been quite impressive so far. Lol.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Don't worry, i can't forget about Lkainu. Lol

SBS's boys are now looking superb and all-round best vassals amongst any GG. What do you think ?

I’m not seeing the 748 summary lol. Am I blind? Can you link me?

Bruh, this is the Spoiler section. Lol.

Yeah but that’s a major freaking spoiler. Lol

Eh, I’ll get over it. Lol

Post automatically merged: Feb 10, 2023

Okay I saw the scans. RIP to Kanki’s mongoloid, this is truly an overwhelming defeat and the end of Kanki’s time as one of the Qin 6 and a Qin GG. But I do not think he dies here. I maintain that somehow, some way, he escapes alive. It seems Kanki really does have some moniker of respect for Shin, probably due to Shin being an ex slave. I think Kanki and Riboku both viewed Shin with an element of amusement, they both actually like Shin to an extent.

I thought Shibashou would be the one to finish the job against Kanki but it seems like Jyoukaryuu took that honor. This is fine. Lol

@Shanks i don’t think too much of it tbh. Zenou was already peppered with arrows and exhausted while Jyoukaryuu is virtually fresh. Prior to these scans I had Jyoukaryuu =< Bananji and I see no reason to change that now, we already knew all of Shibashou’s generals are nutty warriors, and I think Bananji vs Zenou in this state would end the same way,

 

[SakazOuki]

He's right tho. Let's see him introduced first.

I don’t see the need to think that way, we still have some material to work with.
His debut against Ordo, as short as it was, shows that he’s a general on a different level, one of those who could have made China his playground but is just too bored to give a shit, it can’t get better than this lol

 

[Owl Ki]

I imagine Koku Ou's last thoughts were "Should have worn.... some more.... Armour."

 

[FutureWarrior123]

Bruh, this is the Spoiler section. Lol.

The weaker 1/2 of the Seika Army. Ji Aga is the strongest warrior subordinate while Kan Saro was said to be the greatest General overall.

The Gaku Ka needed Shin to save them from the arse whooping they were handed by Gakushou while Shin himself was stalled for for a time by JKR alone.

The subordinates of Shibashou have been quite impressive so far. Lol.

Gakushou and Jyoukaryuu are the budget versions of Kansaro and Ji Aga. They can do everything they can do but better.

 

[Rumble]

I don’t know it seems like someone didn’t really pay attention to SBS’s portrayal, dude is built like a tank,

I've paid enough attention to know build doesn't mean fuck all in a manga that plays as fast and loose with the laws of physics.

drawn as this near perfect human specimen,

You haven't even seen him swing a weapon. Hell, you haven't even seen his face.

Perfect specimen, lol. Come on, that's just tripling down on hyperbole.

has balls enough to say fuck you to the Zhao royalty and stay at his home chilling.

Except he didn't say that, he gave an excuse and stayed his ass home in Seika. To save his neck most likely.

This guy was introduced two thirds into the entire 750 chapter, and we still know jack shit about him to this day.

That's my point. We don't know jack shit, but here you are making assumptions this dude will be an Ou Ki type figure.

For all we know, Ji Aga is straight up stronger than Shi Ba Shou. We don't have any facts to suggest otherwise. We just don't know.

His generals, outside of his own arc and army, are being hyped as literal legends, and now with this recent display of strength.

[citation needed]

Shibashou is literally going to be the final villain in Riboku’s own saga, the completion of years and years of buildup. This is the man who will beat the shit out of Qin before Zhao finally falls.

This is theory and wishful thinking. It's not even hinted this will be the case.

For all we know, Shi Ba Shou is just there to support Ri Boku mount a defence as his more martial-minded colleague.

Even Riboku is a fanboy of Shibashou, dude is worst case scenario Tou level, even though I consider Tou one of the strongest most competent generals, but the level of portrayal is nearly cracking the Ouki tier

Ri Boku respects Shi Ba Shou.

That obviously goes both ways.

There is absolutely nothing to support the rest of this, or really anything in your post. It's impressive.

 

[Shanks]

I imagine Koku Ou's last thoughts were "Should have worn.... some more.... Armour."

Nahhh.... than they would've targeted collarbone or somewhere else but wait that ain't fatal and you can survive to show some tears ....

 

[Rumble]

The weaker 1/2 of the Seika Army. Ji Aga is the strongest warrior subordinate while Kan Saro was said to be the greatest General overall.

Weakest, says who? Only Ji Aga is outright stated to be stronger than Jyou Ka Ryuu.

We don't know Kan Saro is stronger than Fuu On or Gaku Shou. We don't know whether the Kan Saro Army or the Ji Aga Army is stronger than either the Gaku Shou or Jyou Ka Ryuu armies.

For all we know, Ri Boku wanted Gaku Shou and JKR there because their armies actually stronger or better suited for the purpose they were there - we. Just. Don't. Know. Which is the point I've been making.

The Gaku Ka needed Shin to save them from the arse whooping they were handed by Gakushou while Shin himself was stalled for for a time by JKR alone.

This reads like you're going out of way your way to ignore the circumstances of the battle.

Your logic can easily be flipped on its head.

The Gaku Shou Army needed MASSIVE ADVANTAGES in numbers, terrain, morale and condition to put the Gaku Ka Army in that position.

The subordinates of Shibashou have been quite impressive so far. Lol.

Nobody denies this.

The hyperbolic takes are what are in contention.

 

[Owl Ki]

Nahhh.... than they would've targeted collarbone or somewhere else but wait that ain't fatal and you can survive to show some tears ....

To be fair, if getting your collar bone damaged was fatal then we would have had way fewer people survive car crashes throughout history due to broken collarbones from seatbelts. Lol.

 

[notAfanboy]

@Shanks Add me to the tags list please

 

[FutureWarrior123]

@Shanks Add me to the tags list please

Honestly same. I know I’m new here, but I’m basically a consistent poster of the Kingdom section now.

Fake friends. L

 

[Rumble]

The arrows may not have killed Kaine (barring blood loss and/or infection), but realistically speaking, she should be in agony because every time she moves, the arrowheads tear flesh and scrape bone.

 

[Owl Ki]

Weakest, says who? Only Ji Aga is outright stated to be stronger than Jyou Ka Ryuu.

We don't know Kan Saro is stronger than Fuu On or Gaku Shou. We don't know whether the Kan Saro Army or the Ji Aga Army is stronger than either the Gaku Shou or Jyou Ka Ryuu armies.

For all we know, Ri Boku wanted Gaku Shou and JKR there because their armies actually stronger or better suited for the purpose they were there - we. Just. Don't. Know. Which is the point I've been making.

Says Gakushou himself. Lol. He flat out states that Kan Saro is the greatest subordinate General amongst Shabishou's retinue.

Spoiler: Chapter 710

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-710-page-13.html

It is pretty obvious that Kan Saro and Ji Aga are being portrayed above Gaku Shou and JKR.

This reads like you're going out of way your way to ignore the circumstances of the battle.

Your logic can easily be flipped on its head.

The Gaku Shou Army needed MASSIVE ADVANTAGES in numbers, terrain, morale and condition to put the Gaku Ka Army in that position.

The Gaku Ka has gone throughout this manga punching way above their own weight. Regardless of advantages or not, the fact that Gakushou (one of the comparatively weaker Seika leaders) was pretty much set to wipe out Mouten's unit is still impressive. Lol.

 

[Shanks]

To be fair, if getting your collar bone damaged was fatal then we would have had way fewer people survive car crashes throughout history due to broken collarbones from seatbelts. Lol.

True. Not going to complain about Kaine or Riboku's situation. Lol. This has been hilarious in last 3 or 4 chapters.

@Shanks Add me to the tags list please

Honestly same. I know I’m new here, but I’m basically a consistent poster of the Kingdom section now.

Fake friends. L

I'll add you guys in next spoiler posts.

 

[Owl Ki]

Honestly same. I know I’m new here, but I’m basically a consistent poster of the Kingdom section now.

Fake friends. L

It is a secret, elite society I tell ya. I been here since the 8th month of the year 2019 and I still ain't on that list.

Me! A long time Kingdom commentator and veteran of the Bleached Kingdom War.

 

[Shanks]

It is a secret, elite society I tell ya. I been here since the 8th month of the year 2019 and I still ain't on that list.

Me! A long time Kingdom commentator and veteran of the Bleached Kingdom War.

You're in tags but @Bogard (or someone else) hadn't solved the issue yet as why tags ain't working from mobile while works perfectly from desktop...

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

It is a secret, elite society I tell ya. I been here since the 8th month of the year 2019 and I still ain't on that list.

Me! A long time Kingdom commentator and veteran of the Bleached Kingdom War.

We are Kingdom OGs on this forum and I’m not on it either. Lmfao

 

[Rumble]

Says Gakushou himself. Lol. He flat out states that Kan Saro is the greatest subordinate General amongst Shabishou's retinue.

Kan Saro is stated to be the best commander in Seika aside from Shi Ba Shou.

Does that mean he is a stronger fighter than Fuu On and Gaku Shou? Is his army stronger than either the Gaku Shou or JKR armies? Is he a better strategist than Gaku Shou? A better leader? Is he the best because he's well-rounded? We don't know.

You need a lot of context to seriously examine anything and we simply do not have that context given the lack of data.

The Gaku Ka has gone throughout this manga punching way above their own weight.

Never like this. Not even Shukai comes close.

Unlike Shukai, their overall numbers weren't close (88K vs 120k compared to 140k vs 310k). They didn't have a strategic genius like Ou Sen to rely on. There was no Ou Sen Army to look to for support or guidance. There were no nearby armies to potentially retreat to.

Shukai also didn't come off the back off a massive atrocities the Zhao want to avenge either.

Regardless of advantages or not,

So you are ignoring the circumstances of the battle, which I repeat were:

• numbers
• terrain
• morale
• conditioning

the fact that Gakushou (one of the comparatively weaker Seika leaders) was pretty much set to wipe out Mouten's unit is still impressive. Lol.

You hype up and talk down the Seika commanders in whichever context suits you. You have nothing to base your perceived skill or power gaps on. That's just your own headcanon.

The Seika Army DWARFED the combined mass of HSA+GKA vs Zhao already fighting BY ITSELF. It could easily be anywhere from 40,000 to 60,000 strong.

With all the advantages it had, what is it you find so impressive about the larger, fresher and better positioned army getting the the better of <10K army that was bleeding out and close to being overrun before reinforcements arrived?

Like, goddamn, can't you just say you're a fan of the Seika characters and leave it at that? Why the need for all this hyperbole and selective reading? I just don't get it.

 

[notAfanboy]

Honestly same. I know I’m new here, but I’m basically a consistent poster of the Kingdom section now.

Fake friends. L

I understand that, I have not been added in spoiler tag list in MHA and Black Clover.
It is because I have not asked them to add me, plus tag lists are pain in the #ss to manage 😂

 

[Rumble]

Also, not to undermine the hype of these leaks but WHERE THE FUCK IS BA NAN JI AT THO?